A wolf versus a dog (discuss please)

Glokta said:
People bred dogs to protect flocks of sheep from wolves by themselves such as the Great Pyrenees.
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They aren’t bred to fight off when wolves, they are a deterrent. They seldom fight the much smaller coyote
 
I mean as has already been stated wolves are pack hunters so the odds of them shooting a fair one with a dog are extremely low and even if they did they would probably run off at the first sign of resistance. They’re front runners basically.
 
It also depends on the wolf.

An 80 lb Midwest US beta or a 150 lb alpha from Alaska.

I bet a pit would take the 80 lber and look like a badass doing it. And the 150 lb alpha would probably make a pit lunch.
 
BB in Crazy!!!! said:
It also depends on the wolf.

An 80 lb Midwest US beta or a 150 lb alpha from Alaska.

I bet a pit would take the 80 lber and look like a badass doing it. And the 150 lb alpha would probably make a pit lunch.
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Huge part of it is simple motivation. What are they fighting for? Equally motivated, I'll honestly take the mean gun-powder fed pitbull over pretty much any wolf, don't care what size.

I'm sure this has been discussed in this thread...sorry I haven't read it all.
 
Hasn't anyone read Jack London's White Fang? Pit bull beats a wolf in a fight.
 
all i know is my two Boston Terriers once took out a full sized Coyote

like w/ ease too
 
Sinister said:
^This is correct. ONLY dog breeds that were bred to combat larger animals can do this, which rules out MOST dogs. But ones that were bred to hunt/combat wolves and/or bears would have a pretty fair chance one on one. However, that wolves almost never fight alone in nature is the big concern.
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Yes.

Striking forum representing.

If we are to take this somewhat absurd hypothetical seriously we have to admit two things matter most.

Genetics and training.

Most dogs would not be in the same weight class.

Several breed are specifically bred for this task but even then breeding is not enough.

A wild wolf has an incredible amount of practice hunting and killing. Way more than a domestic dog. This can be flipped if you are actively training an appropriate breed to fight and run off wolves.

Even with that in mind, we still use technology to cheat the fight.

Put a spiked collar on the wolfhound, watch what happens when the wolves try to go for his throat in a fight.
 
Some of you watch too many wolf movies vs Disney-esque dog movies:



Some dogs ain't just dogs.
 
Wolves are very clever and would outsmart the dog 99% of the time.
 
^Wolves are not by default smarter than dogs. In fact much of the reason some breeds can kill wolves, lions, and bears has to do with the dog's intelligence (trainability) paired with how they fight.
 
This is a well known case of a dog killing a mountain lion, i consider the cougar to be more dangerous than one wolf. I'm sure in most cases the dog wouldn't come out as victor, but this time i'm glad he did.[shame the dog has it's ear's cut small.]
 
WrestlinganJudo said:
Even the USDA is getting involved it has gotten so bad. The states with the big wolves have opened up culling.
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They're not big wolves, they're a wolf/coyote hybrid.

They're not bigger than wolves, but they are larger than coyotes and can work together in packs which coyotes rarely do.

Edit: I'm talking about in the north east as opposed to the northwest.
 
Wolves breed in the wild, which means only the strongest of the strong survive to pass on their genes.
 
Dog vs wolf intelligence. They start out the same, but a dog never much gets past it's child years. They sort of stop developing mentally because of domestication. Wolves continue learning. That makes the wolf much more dangerous.
 
Not sure if already posted but this will answer you!

The dogs breed to fend off wolves operate in packs. One on one a healthy adult wold wins.

 
JabToucher said:
Not sure if already posted but this will answer you!

The dogs breed to fend off wolves operate in packs. One on one a healthy adult wold wins.

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Depends upon the size of the dog compared to the size of the wolf.

In general wolves are way more badass, some dogs will be able to take on small ones though.

The smallest recorded grey wolf is 26 pounds (slightly lighter than my cockaspaniel, but with a far more powerful bite). The largest are around 175, so the difference in lethality is extreme.

The average adult human male is 155 pounds lean, not big enough to deal with a huge 175 pounder but compared to the average grey wolf (88 pounds), Wolfie has a better shot at little red.
 
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