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[maximus__]

Exactly.

Kinda crazy that I’m seeing a lot of posters here agreeing with the stoppage who have older accounts. Y’all should know better. Also kinda crazy that this opinion is not uncommon here either.

Do ppl not understand what “intelligently defending” one’s self means? Green was flat on his stomach not even covering up. He ate 5-6 clean and unanswered shots before he went out. I’m all for a clean finish but it’s clear that he wasn’t gonna fight back after one of those.

The footage has been posted multiple times in this thread. He was covering up, only 1/3 shots landed, but each time they landed they did huge damage. There was a point where he got flashed where the stoppage would have been ok. Instead we saw him take 2 more strikes of about 5 thrown and go out and 1 strike when he was already out.
He took a total of 3-4 clean strikes the entire sequence on the ground, 1 put him out and one was after he was out.

Probably could have been stopped a touch earlier, but people are making it out like he took 20 unanswered shots with his face in the canvas. He was with it and covering up, whilst attempting to get his base until the 2nd last shot put him out.

 

[josh345]

"It's not a career...it's an opportunity!"

 

[Natural Order]

Two shots late imo, but better than a lot of quick calls going the other way a lot recently.

Getting it right is not easy though, I don't envy the refs.

 

[TrueBias]

Loving the announcing of sissies in here.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Yeah nothing to crazy about that stoppage. Reaction feels overblown almost fake. Did it get started by the Bobby Green fans or some people that lost their parlay. If fighters going to sleep is terrible should probably just do away with the striking all together.

it comes from troglodytes who think the commentary team has any fucking clue what they're talking about. its the same reason random joe roganisms get spouted about here like they're facts. commentary was crying so they are too.

 

[Standupguy152]

The footage has been posted multiple times in this thread. He was covering up, only 1/3 shots landed, but each time they landed they did huge damage. There was a point where he got flashed where the stoppage would have been ok. Instead we saw him take 2 more strikes of about 5 thrown and go out and 1 strike when he was already out.
He took a total of 3-4 clean strikes the entire sequence on the ground, 1 put him out and one was after he was out.

Probably could have been stopped a touch earlier, but people are making it out like he took 20 unanswered shots with his face in the canvas. He was with it and covering up, whilst attempting to get his base until the 2nd last shot put him out.

See my point about intelligent defense. He was rocked, on his stomach with Turner in back mount.

The footage has been posted multiple times in this thread. He was covering up, only 1/3 shots landed, but each time they landed they did huge damage. There was a point where he got flashed where the stoppage would have been ok. Instead we saw him take 2 more strikes of about 5 thrown and go out and 1 strike when he was already out.
He took a total of 3-4 clean strikes the entire sequence on the ground, 1 put him out and one was after he was out.

Probably could have been stopped a touch earlier, but people are making it out like he took 20 unanswered shots with his face in the canvas. He was with it and covering up, whilst attempting to get his base until the 2nd last shot put him out.

With respect, but agree to disagree.

Bobby’s right hand was trapped under him on the first punch, its freed on the second punch and his hands attempt to cover up but on the 3rd punch he’s flash KO’d, where his hands are to his right on the mat. There was no intelligent defense here and a stoppage would’ve been appropriate. He eats two clean shots while flash KO’d and the third punch in the sequence seems to wake him up and he then attempts to cover up.

Let’s be clear, covering up while flat on your stomach while opponent is in back mount raining down shots is hardly intelligent defense.

5 more shots are delivered while he is covering up, and to grant your point he deflects 1/3 of those, but the 6th shot puts him out and he eats 2-3 more clean power shots.

Even granting your point he didn’t need to take 6 of those punches after the flash KO.

 

[mudrubble]

This. Though I agree with the spirit of the post ie Izzy v Alex 1 could have used one more punch just to stop the fight but overall the reason why Izzy was back and beat Alex was because he didnt throw those extra 3-5 punches that would require him to sit out a year.

Its a double edged sword.

This

 

[maximus__]

See my point about intelligent defense. He was rocked, on his stomach with Turner in back mount.

With respect, but agree to disagree.

Bobby’s right hand was trapped under him on the first punch, its freed on the second punch and his hands attempt to cover up but on the 3rd punch he’s flash KO’d, where his hands are to his right on the mat. There was no intelligent defense here and a stoppage would’ve been appropriate. He eats two clean shots while flash KO’d and the third punch in the sequence seems to wake him up and he then attempts to cover up.

Let’s be clear, covering up while flat on your stomach while opponent is in back mount raining down shots is hardly intelligent defense.

5 more shots are delivered while he is covering up, and to grant your point he deflects 1/3 of those, but the 6th shot puts him out and he eats 2-3 more clean power shots.

Even granting your point he didn’t need to take 6 of those punches after the flash KO.

I agree it would have been ok to stop it when he was flashed but your own breakdown is why the stoppage was ok.

You say it yourself that he wakes back up, that's what I saw also. So now you have a guy that got dropped, takes follow up shots and then at the point we both agree a stoppage could occur, he wakes back up and moves again.
The only difference is I am ok with another couple shots at that point and the ref was in that moment.

People are making it out that he took 20 flush shots during the sequence. Most were glancing or catching the gloves,I disagree it was just one that was blocked. The shots that got through connected and caused massive damage resulting in the finish and Bobby getting KO'd. SUre he didn't need to take those extra punches, but he also wasn't doing anything wrong to have the fight stopped at that point.

I have no issues with it being stopped 3-4 punches earlier, but I also don't see why it's such a big deal to have him go out. The entire sequence is about 5 seconds on the ground. You have people calling to have it stopped on the knockdown in various threads.

We always forget that a fighter can tap at any point to strikes on the ground. Fighters choose not to and he also never just laid faced down and covered up like we see plenty of people do from that position. At all times he was trying to build a base and get up, he just couldn't because Jailin is a big LW and had him hurt.

 

[drblackula]

I genuinely wonder how many people saying this was a good stoppage actually paid for the fight night?

I also wonder how many have actually sparred before.

It sounds like a lot of you people have never been punched in your lives or are 14.

 

[maximus__]

I genuinely wonder how many people saying this was a good stoppage actually paid for the fight night?

I also wonder how many have actually sparred before.

It sounds like a lot of you people have never been punched in your lives or are 14.

I hope you didn't pay for the fight night...

 

[Yellowcrab]

No and the referee made a mistake.

 

[drblackula]

I hope you didn't pay for the fight night...

I mean sounds like you proved me right

 

[maximus__]

I mean sounds like you proved me right

Fight nights are free through UFC Fightpass and just like PPVs are played for free in plenty of countries throughout the world outside places like the US.

I can bring up much more violent sequences than the Green vs HIll all throughout that extensive library across multiple orgs. Plenty of those fights weren't stopped and led to the person in that position winning the fight.

Green just got KO'd. We see it happen every single card (well most cards) and nobody bats an eye about it when it's standing, even though the fighter will regularly faceplant or fall back and take more trauma on the way down. The 2 slam KO's were more dangerous than Green getting put out due to the potential impact on the spinal column and associated brain trauma.

 

[ineverpost]

all the dinks coming in with their perfect stoppage opinions just got done watching Chael's latest 10 minute ranting.

 

[maximus__]

all the dinks coming in with their perfect stoppage opinions just got done watching Chael's latest 10 minute ranting.

We are all looking at it in hindsight and making our opinions. At the time, it happened fast and the ref went with the opinion to let it go a little more and Turner finally started to hit those shots accurately and put him out cold. It's interesting because it was a pretty stoppage heavy card and green was probably one of the fastest in terms of recovery in cage. The other guys were much worse from the slams and Dariush was out for forever. Green was clearly concussed and not quite right, but he came to pretty quick considering which is usually a big sign in terms of recovery from head trauma.