[James Keith]

If I had an uncle killed by one, I might be bitter too. He might be wrong, but death of a loved one will do that to you. I'm not gonna hold it against him

I've never found the deaths of second-degree relatives to be very traumatic, personally. Particularly when they happened before I was born. It is a reason for his parent to be bitter perhaps. But that's a second-hand story he can keep to himself.

 

[Darkballs]

People that have been to war generally don't give a fuck about the opinions of people who haven't. At least on the issue of courage and war. That applies to both pro-war, and anti-war folks. So who cares what some fat piece of shit like Moore thinks?

Christ, I'm a far left liberal and that guy is 100% pure twat.

 

[nhbbear]

Did he make similar comments when Shooter came out, or only when movies and their topics tend to attract a more conservative base. Moore is a fat slob, and his nephews will likely call cheeseburgers cowards in a few years.

 

[guassian]

Might as well fight hand to hand ... wait, there's weight advantage, and height ... what a moron.

 

[TheyAreSurfers]

That Chris Kyle guy must have been unbearable- got shot by his pal who he brought to the shooting range.

Had to be a slimy person....aren't Seals supposed to "not brag". Yet he decided to distinguish himself from his fellow seals and drag down another navy seal in Jesse Ventura.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

About what I would expect of him, he wouldn't courage if he saw it.

If he ever saw any shit he would have a heart attack trying to waddle run away while shitting his pants.

Some would say what Moore has done is much more courageous than killing people.

Sometimes the pen is mightier than the sword and takes more courage to wield.

 

[KILL KILL]

Michael Moore is a can.

 

[Byron Carter]

Unless it's a pitched battle Braveheart-style then Moore must think every tactic is cowardice.

Pretty much.

 

[Banchan]

That Chris Kyle guy must have been unbearable- got shot by his pal who he brought to the shooting range.

Had to be a slimy person....aren't Seals supposed to "not brag". Yet he decided to distinguish himself from his fellow seals and drag down another navy seal in Jesse Ventura.

Did you do some surfing today?

Modern combat wavefare?

 

[Byron Carter]

Some would say what Moore has done is much more courageous than killing people.

Sometimes the pen is mightier than the sword and takes more courage to wield.

Yeah, some might say that, but they'd be wrong.

Sneaking into hostile territory where they behead and torture enemies, camping out for days at a time to line the perfect shot, killing your target and escaping and returning home takes more courage than making a film in the United States.

Now, if we are talking about Ayan Hirsi Ali or someone making controversial films who are actually putting themselves at risk, you may have an argument.

Michael Moore is bitch-made and needs to keep his cheeto-stained fat fingers off the keyboard.

 

[Bukowski82]

That Chris Kyle guy must have been unbearable- got shot by his pal who he brought to the shooting range.

Had to be a slimy person....aren't Seals supposed to "not brag". Yet he decided to distinguish himself from his fellow seals and drag down another navy seal in Jesse Ventura.

So much fail in one post... no wonder it's the guy who compared warfare to surfing.

Kyle was doing outreach to Combat Veterans suffering from PTSD when he was shot by an extremely troubled man he was trying to help. As far as Ventura, he drug himself down. The guy is a grade A scumbag.

 

[jlagman]

Yeah, some might say that, but they'd be wrong.

Sneaking into hostile territory where they behead and torture enemies, camping out for days at a time to line the perfect shot, killing your target and escaping and returning home takes more courage than making a film in the United States.

Now, if we are talking about Ayan Hirsi Ali or someone making controversial films who are actually putting themselves at risk, you may have an argument.

Michael Moore is bitch-made and needs to keep his cheeto-stained fat fingers off the keyboard.

+ fucking Juan

Especially when living a cushy lifestyle as part of the visible majority, hiding behind free speech in a first world country. If your greatest fear is a counter post on Twitter, you aren't courageous.

 

[Toothless King]

If I had an uncle killed by one, I might be bitter too. He might be wrong, but death of a loved one will do that to you. I'm not gonna hold it against him

You honestly believe that MM is pissed/bitter because his uncle (someone that MM has never met) was killed (before MM was born) by a sniper in a war over half a century ago?

 

[Byron Carter]

You honestly believe that MM is pissed/bitter because his uncle (someone that MM has never met) was killed (before MM was born) by a sniper in a war over half a century ago?

MM is on some Game of Thrones shit.

A Moore always pays his debts...

 

[AlucardNatasrd]

I am not here to defend Michael Moore's socialist garbage, but let's be honest:

Would any of you be okay with capturing a sniper you know personally targetted, and killed, your fellow soldiers? And then treating him "like just another soldier"?

Snipers lay in wait and purposefully target and seek you out for death. They are analyzing you, particularly, to die. They do this from the shadows, at range, so they are protected, while they pick you off, one by one.

Being a sniper isn't shameful. The sniper plays a role in the war effort. But it is not reasonable to call a sniper courageous, either, as he does one of the least dangerous jobs in the military by being thousands of feet from the action and attacking precisely where they cannot be seen. The only danger they face is getting caught, which is rare.

 

[taknocks]

I am not here to defend Michael Moore's socialist garbage, but let's be honest:

Would any of you be okay with capturing a sniper you know personally targetted, and killed, your fellow soldiers? And then treating him "like just another soldier"?

Snipers lay in wait and purposefully target and seek you out for death. They are analyzing you, particularly, to die. They do this from the shadows, at range, so they are protected, while they pick you off, one by one.

Being a sniper isn't shameful. The sniper plays a role in the war effort. But it is not reasonable to call a sniper courageous, either, as he does one of the least dangerous jobs in the military by being thousands of feet from the action and attacking precisely where they cannot be seen. The only danger they face is getting caught, which is rare.

Volunteering to go to Iraq so you can lay down in a warzone as one of the most wanted men in the country takes courage. Being responsible for protecting other soldiers in that warzone takes courage. Also, being far away from the ground forces and somewhat concealed does not make you invulnerable. Other positions in the military may be more dangerous, but doing what Chris Kyle did took courage no doubt.

 

[AlucardNatasrd]

Volunteering to go to Iraq so you can lay down in a warzone as one of the most wanted men in the country takes courage. Being responsible for protecting other soldiers in that warzone takes courage. Also, being far away from the ground forces and somewhat concealed does not make you invulnerable. Other positions in the military may be more dangerous, but doing what Chris Kyle did took courage no doubt.

It does not take courage to defend one's fellows, especially at virtually no danger to oneself.

It isn't cowardly, but it simply lacks courage. Snipers are not courageous, they are dutiful, they do their job, they act honourably, but they lack courage. They are rarely in danger, and they attack from the shadows.

He wasn't invulnerable, but he sure was safe.

 

[Bukowski82]

It does not take courage to defend one's fellows, especially at virtually no danger to oneself.

It isn't cowardly, but it simply lacks courage. Snipers are not courageous, they are dutiful, they do their job, they act honourably, but they lack courage. They are rarely in danger, and they attack from the shadows.

He wasn't invulnerable, but he sure was safe.

So apparently, you know absolutely zero about Snipers, especially about their role in Urban Warfare and the dangers they face in that setting. But feel compelled to speak on the subject like you do... and say that Chris Kyle wasn't courageous, citing just your opinion and lack of knowledge.

Gotcha. As you were, then.

 

[AlucardNatasrd]

So apparently, you know absolutely zero about Snipers, especially about their role in Urban Warfare and the dangers they face in that setting. But feel compelled to speak on the subject like you do... and say that Chris Kyle wasn't courageous, citing just your opinion and lack of knowledge.

Gotcha. As you were, then.

What danger was he ever in? When was he under fire or attacked by the enemy? He was targetting the enemy from several hundred feet away, concealed and camoed, and could pick off enemies at will. That is precisely how he secured 160 kills.

I am not saying he was a coward. I am saying what he does does not involve courage. Courage involves facing some danger and meeting that danger because it is the right thing to do. He faced, at best, minimal danger. What he did do was show comradery, honour, obedience to duty, et cetera, all of which are praise worthy.

But snipers aren't paragons of courage. Just as say, drone operators aren't paragons of courage.

 

[taknocks]

It does not take courage to defend one's fellows, especially at virtually no danger to oneself.

It isn't cowardly, but it simply lacks courage. Snipers are not courageous, they are dutiful, they do their job, they act honourably, but they lack courage. They are rarely in danger, and they attack from the shadows.

He wasn't invulnerable, but he sure was safe.

No offense, but saying that responsibility takes no courage is ridiculous. Courage isn't just about being on the front lines of a war or rescuing people from burning buildings. Would you say it takes no courage to be a surgeon? Well, probably, but you'd be wrong there, too.