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Clinton Wins South Carolina Primary to Set Up Super Tuesday

Hillary Clinton won the South Carolina presidential primary, where she was seeking a decisive margin of victory that would solidify her path to the Democratic nomination heading into Tuesday’s nominating contests in 11 states, the biggest prize of the 2016 campaign.

Clinton defeated Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, who conceded just minutes after the polls closed at 7 p.m. local time. “This campaign is just beginning,” he said in a statement. “Now it’s on to Super Tuesday.”

The former secretary of state campaigned hard in the Palmetto State before Saturday’s primary despite leading by 20 percentage points or more in polls, seeking a convincing win before Super Tuesday to cement her position as the inevitable nominee. Sanders had hoped to limit the margin of Clinton’s victory, even as he spent much of the week campaigning in other states.

After Sanders essentially tied Clinton in the Iowa caucuses on Feb. 1 and defeated her by more than 22 percentage points a week later in New Hampshire, Clinton won the Nevada caucuses on Feb. 20 in the first test in a state with a large minority population. She replicated that performance in South Carolina, the first nominating contest in the South.

Black Voters
Preliminary exit polls showed that 61 percent of Democrats voting on Saturday were black, possibly on pace to break the state record of 55 percent in 2008, ABC News reported on its website. She was getting eight out of 10 of their votes, according to the exit polls. Black voters are also a significant part of the electorate in Georgia, Alabama and other Southern states voting on Tuesday.

Sanders tried to energize voters, especially young people, with his message about income inequality. He also increased his criticism of Clinton’s record, including her support of the 1996 welfare-reform bill that her husband, former President Bill Clinton, signed into law.

Clinton relied on her longstanding ties to the black community, lingering goodwill from the economic advances during her husband’s presidency, and a strong pitch that she would carry on the initiatives of President Barack Obama, the first black chief executive.

Obama’s Record
“What I want to do is build on the progress we’ve made under President Obama and go further,’’ Clinton said during a rally on Wednesday at Morris College, a historically black college in Sumter.

Kelvin Mathews, 25, a dock worker from North Charleston, said he likes Sanders but thinks Clinton can win and get results.

“She’s going to continue things Barack Obama put in place,” Mathews said during Clinton’s visit on Wednesday to the International Longshoremen’s Association Local 1422 hall in Charleston.

Clinton also emphasized her ability to get results with achievable proposals, continuing her efforts to paint Sanders, a self-described socialist, as a “one-issue’’ candidate.

Clinton’s team was confident that she would win South Carolina and spent the week trying to run up the vote margin, with Bill Clinton traversing the western part of the state ahead of primary day and their daughter, Chelsea, visiting colleges.

Super Tuesday States
The former secretary of state campaigned in Alabama on Saturday before returning to spend primary night at a party on the campus of the University of South Carolina in Columbia. Sanders spent the day in Texas and he flew to Minnesota just before the South Carolina polls closed.

Sanders seemingly had already moved beyond South Carolina by Saturday, telling a crowd of about 10,000 people in Austin about the campaign’s competitive showings in Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada.

“On Super Tuesday the state that is going to be voting for the most delegates is the great state of Texas,” he said, skipping over Saturday’s primary. “And if all of you come out to vote, and you bring your friends and your neighbors and your coworkers, we are gonna win here in Texas.’’

Sanders perhaps could have performed better in South Carolina by devoting more time and resources, said Robert Oldendick, a professor of political science at the University of South Carolina in Columbia.

But he needed to concentrate on the first voting states of Iowa and New Hampshire to build momentum, and he started in South Carolina limited by low name recognition and Clinton’s institutional advantages, including the backing of U.S. Representative Jim Clyburn, the state’s highest-ranking black Democrat, Oldendick said.

“It was such a steep hill to climb,’’ he said. “I’m not sure he could have done much better.’’

South Carolina has 59 delegates to the national convention, according to the state Democratic Party. Thirty-five are awarded proportionally based on the results in each of the state’s seven congressional districts, and 18 others are decided proportionally by the statewide outcome. There also are six superdelegates, four of whom have endorsed Clinton, according to the Associated Press. Party Chairman Jaime Harrison will go with the primary winner, the party said.

Of the 2,383 delegates needed to win the nomination, Clinton had just over 500 before Saturday’s primary, including more than 450 superdelegates. Sanders had 71 delegates, including 20 superdelegates, according to a tally compiled by the Associated Press.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...outh-carolina-primary-to-set-up-super-tuesday
 
I want him to win to, but if he can't get the non-white vote he's likely to lose to Trump. Even if Trump kept his current line of hard right campaigning he would defeat Bernie with whites.

We are talking about the state of south carolina, you know the one newt Gingrich won in a landslide in 2012.

You have went from, dominating in national polls, to a minority firewall, to a black southern fence post. And 4 states have voted.
 
So your narrative is changing from "Bernie will dominate Clinton" to "CLinton will win, but may get indicted over nothing, so Bernie should stay in and win by default"?

I never said that, but I don't expect clinton supporters to be anymore honest or trustworthy than she is.
 
Millennial Black vote goes to Bernie because he's a pandering pushover for them, the older Black vote goes to Hillary because they think BLM is a bunch of fools for the most part, playschool activists who think they're the same as Martin and Malcolm. That young girl demanding an apology from Clinton in SC probably won Clinton more support given the snot nosed girl wasn't likely born when Hillary made that statement, and those 50+ folks were and remember the gang banger epidemic at that time.

Shit was crazy back then. When crack hit cities the dealers were literally taking over neighborhoods.
 
I never said that, but I don't expect clinton supporters to be anymore honest or trustworthy than she is.
You do know I'm a Bernie supporter, right? Donated to his campaign and everything. I had hoped he could make inroads with minorities, but he really hasn't. I will still root for him, but I can be realistic at the same time.
 
Doesn't help that Bernie is running HARD against President Obama, who has over 80% favor-ability rating with Democrats. David Plouffe tweeted this out a couple of weeks ago -

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You do know I'm a Bernie supporter, right? Donated to his campaign and everything. I had hoped he could make inroads with minorities, but he really hasn't. I will still root for him, but I can be realistic at the same time.

Yeah, but I don't believe it, to be honest.

There is a path forward, I have explained it at depth many times. Disagree all you want, make your case all you want, just don't dismiss my well thought out positions, and expect me to still play nice.
 
Wow, 75% - 25% for hillary. They should just let the south secede from the rest of the US. Dumbass southerners
 
Doesn't help that Bernie is running HARD against President Obama, who has over 80% favor-ability rating with Democrats.

Christ are you serious? Sanders is not running hard against Obama, Hillary and the media are just spinning it that way. Based on your comments it appears to be working. Having a few disagreements doesn't = running hard. Have you ever once listened to Bernie speak or even watched a debate?
 
50 point gap? This race is over.
 
Christ are you serious? Sanders is not running hard against Obama, Hillary and the media are just spinning it that way. Based on your comments it appears to be working. Having a few disagreements doesn't = running hard. Have you ever once listened to Bernie speak or even watched a debate?

Yes he is. He has had more than just small disagreements with our president. Heck his entire campaign is centered around dislike of the politics of Obama or Clinton. A vote for Hillary is basically a 3rd term vote for Obama and to continue the Obama legacy and progress he has made. Bernie as it stands wants to undo some of Obama's progress including healthcare.

It also does not help that fools like yourself are now on social media spinning this loss as the result of "southerners and black people being stupid". I have already seen people on my FB feeds claiming black voters (yes even young ones) are some how uneducated hence that is why they failed to vote for Bernie.

Not only is it racist as hell but it won't win you or Bernie more fans. You 'liking' a guys comments who implies the entire south is stupid just proves my point. Bernie doesn't want people like you supporting his campaign anyways.

And by the way he is going to most likely lose at this point. Super Tuesday is mostly southern states and even Massachusetts isn't likely to be a sweep for him last I checked. To win he needs to dominate on Super Tuesday which isn't likely.
 
50 point gap? This race is over.
I still have hope.

South Carolina means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Bernie NEEDS to do well on super Tuesday to still have a shot and I think more than a couple states are leaning the way of the crook
 
Yes he is. He has had more than just small disagreements with our president. Heck his entire campaign is centered around dislike of the politics of Obama or Clinton. A vote for Hillary is basically a 3rd term vote for Obama and to continue the Obama legacy and progress he has made. Bernie as it stands wants to undo some of Obama's progress including healthcare.

It also does not help that fools like yourself are now on social media spinning this loss as the result of "southerners and black people being stupid". I have already seen people on my FB feeds claiming black voters (yes even young ones) are some how uneducated hence that is why they failed to vote for Bernie.

Not only is it racist as hell but it won't win you or Bernie more fans. You 'liking' a guys comments who implies the entire south is stupid just proves my point. Bernie doesn't want people like you supporting his campaign anyways.

And by the way he is going to most likely lose at this point. Super Tuesday is mostly southern states and even Massachusetts isn't likely to be a sweep for him last I checked. To win he needs to dominate on Super Tuesday which isn't likely.

 
Anyone else rethinking Bernie's chances in a GE? Democrats need the non-white vote, and it looks like Hillary has a lock on it.
Does the non-white go to Trump if Bernie wins the primary? Otherwise no.
 
I still have hope.

South Carolina means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Bernie NEEDS to do well on super Tuesday to still have a shot and I think more than a couple states are leaning the way of the crook

Anything is possible but at this point Hillary has 21% of the delegates needed to win and is about to win South Carolina officially by a landslide. Super Tuesday is mostly southern states and holds like 1/3 of the Democrats delegates available. If Clinton even does decent and not great as she is expected she will still be way over Bernie via popular vote, delegates and superdelegates.

Bernie needs to destroy Clinton on Supertuesday to have a chance.



Bernie is going to lose hard and you will have a meltdown.
 
I still have hope.

South Carolina means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Bernie NEEDS to do well on super Tuesday to still have a shot and I think more than a couple states are leaning the way of the crook


Didn't see exit polls yet but a general 50 point gap just mean another awful showing with the back vote in SC. Bernie isn't going to make that big of a swing if he even could at this point.
 
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