"Distance Manipulation/Deception" Understanding Conor's Brilliant Matrix Performance.FULL Analysis!

His matrix game against Alvarez had nootinn on his matrix against Diaz. I mean look at the angle his body makes, Conor achieved Morpheus' levels of matrix in that fight.
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It's a good example, Conor only becomes mortal when he gasses. Good thing the Diaz loss happened, now he's unbeatable because he focuses on cardio.
 
He's paid for the flaws that I speak of, the fundamental boxing flaws that you guys think he has mastered. The hands down, chin high, throwing himself off balance with heavy shots have all got him caught but the majority of the feathers can't hit hard enough to make it matter. Nate isn't a heavy puncher and those fundamental flaws cost McGregor the first fight. He isn't on another level as is claimed here and slow footed slow fisted Nate proved that. If he doesn't have the flaws i stated he wouldnt have got caught so much against nate. against any man he doesn't have the physical advantage over he will not do as well simply because the person doesn't have to lunge to bridge the gap.
 
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He's paid for the flaws that I speak of, the fundamental boxing flaws that you guys think he has mastered. The hands down, chin high, throwing himself off balance with heavy shots have all got him caught but the majority of the feathers can't hit hard enough to make it matter. Nate isn't a heavy puncher and those fundamental flaws cost McGregor the first fight. He isn't on another level as is claimed here and slow footed slow fisted Nate proved that. If he doesn't did the flaws he struggles against any man he doesn't have the physical advantage over simply because the person doesn't have to bridge the gap.
The only thing that cost Conor the first Nate fight was his lack of cardio. He was gassed by the end of the first, and again completely gassed after two minutes into the second. Of course his defense has flaws after he's exhausted.
 
Damn dude. Take some classes at the adult learning annex or something. Too much time on your hands
 
Conor's chess game won't matter when he's playing smash Bros with khabib.


Honestly though, conor's striking is elite. A lefty, or someone with similar reach "or better yet a lefty with similar reach" will alwYs hVe the best chance on the feet with Conor. A south paws kicker would give conor fits.
 
The only thing that cost Conor the first Nate fight was his lack of cardio. He was gassed by the end of the first, and again completely gassed after two minutes into the second. Of course his defense has flaws after he's exhausted.
He didn't just gas, he has excellent cardio and trained for a full mma camp. This is the most grueling sport and you better believe the champion level fighters are in tip top shape. Nate punching him in his face and stomach on top of McGregor throwing hard and missing often is why he was tired. Diaz never having to lunge in is a big part of why that fight went how it did.
 
Been reading for 45 minutes and I've only made it to chapter four.

Did you make it to the part where conor transforms into the all time great chess player, Bobby Fischer?

Best part hands down.
 
He didn't just gas, he has excellent cardio and trained for a full mma camp. This is the most grueling sport and you better believe the champion level fighters are in tip top shape. Nate punching him in his face and stomach on top of McGregor throwing hard and missing often is why he was tired. Diaz never having to lunge in is a big part of why that fight went how it did.
Yes, he did just gas. He didn't have excellent cardio. He literally stopped going to the gym at regular times and just did whatever he felt like doing after the Aldo fight.

You're speculating and talking out of your ass.
 
Here's my breakdown: Conor punched Eddie & the referee stopped the fight
 
I'm a fight fan first and I don't look at any of these fighters in a biased way. Ive seen diaz beaten plenty of times and the blue print is out there. I expected McGregor to take the first fight based on faster and better footwork first and for most , second because any knowledgeable coach should've been telling him to kick Diaz's lead leg early. 3rd because he has faster hands and if he'd use some fundamental defense he's a better boxer than diaz. He has all the physical gifts plus foot/handspeed advantage to have put on a clinic against diaz and never get touched , the reason he didn't is because he simply is not the god at judging distance and using his footwork as ts is portaying. On another note a shorter fighter with the tools of Jose Aldo can beat conor McGregor by kicking his lead leg early,McGregor will always fire when he sees you coming forward so you must feint, feint, feint, fire , weave, attack the body, circle , feint. Now I said Aldo has the tools but I do not think he has the discipline to bring that for 25 minutes. I see him drop his hands on the break all the time and I say close to 9/10 times mcgregor catches him and he goes to sleep. Aldo is my second fave and I can see these fighters for who they are and just what their styles entail. I enjoy eachs subtleties and i tell you bisping, nick diaz, and a few others put together just as brilliant of displays in mma boxing as McGregor does but they don't usually enjoy the physical advantage McGregor does relative to eaches respective divisions so we see less kos from their boxing.
 
Yes, he did just gas. He didn't have excellent cardio. He literally stopped going to the gym at regular times and just did whatever he felt like doing after the Aldo fight.

You're speculating and talking out of your ass.
No that's what you just did is speculate and talk out of your ass. He trains his ass off and hell be the first to admit he believes no man is out training him. When you take punches to the head and body in order for your structure to maintain balance and not fall you tense and lose energy. Each shot nate landed was tensing his back and sapping his energy. Same when you land on the opponent , he absorbs the weight of your punch and wilts from too many but when you miss the punch/kick the weight doesnt transfer or become absorbed by the opponent and you become tense as you recover balance from missing/over extending. Mcgregor missed alot more than you think in thay first and got hit more than you think as well. The combonation of the two is why he gassed.
 
No that's what you just did is speculate and talk out of your ass. He trains his ass off and hell be the first to admit he believes no man is out training him. When you take punches to the head and body in order for your structure to maintain balance and not fall you tense and lose energy. Each shot nate landed was tensing his back and sapping his energy. Same when you land on the opponent , he absorbs the weight of your punch and wilts from too many but when you miss the punch/kick the weight doesnt transfer or become absorbed by the opponent and you become tense as you recover balance from missing/over extending. Mcgregor missed alot more than you think in thay first and got hit more than you think as well. The combonation of the two is why he gassed.
If you need just go punch a heavy bag and then swing hard at air. You will find out that hitting air sacrifices balance and wastes a shit ton of energy.
 
No that's what you just did is speculate and talk out of your ass. He trains his ass off and hell be the first to admit he believes no man is out training him. When you take punches to the head and body in order for your structure to maintain balance and not fall you tense and lose energy. Each shot nate landed was tensing his back and sapping his energy. Same when you land on the opponent , he absorbs the weight of your punch and wilts from too many but when you miss the punch/kick the weight doesnt transfer or become absorbed by the opponent and you become tense as you recover balance from missing/over extending. Mcgregor missed alot more than you think in thay first and got hit more than you think as well. The combonation of the two is why he gassed.
Nope, I'm going by facts, you're going by what you feel like happened. And the facts say you're wrong.
 
Nope, I'm going by facts, you're going by what you feel like happened. And the facts say you're wrong.
What facts that i stated are wrong? Getting hit tires every living being, getting hit on the chin tires you out quick. The reason conor didnt go to sleep from the 1-2 nate hit him with is because he was in good shape. We saw his legs buckle if was out of shape hed have collapsed ,the mans heart wilted before his body got the chance and he shot for the takedown. We both watched mcgregor miss more than he has in any other fight and he got pieced up more than any other fight. Nate landed some shots and conor wilted under them idk what facts you're arguing with.
 
It's a good example, Conor only becomes mortal when he gasses. Good thing the Diaz loss happened, now he's unbeatable because he focuses on cardio.
Conor lost that fight because he lacks basic defensive fundamentals. He holds his hands too low and rides his chin too high, sacrifices to much balance to throw hard at times. He's been tagged by others because of these flaws but the majority of these fw lack the power to make it count. Against slow handed diaz those flaws cost him a fight. He's not the god ts thinks he is.
 
He's great when the opponent is shorter and has to lunge to close the gap . he looks so good against the shorter men with no discipline to feint and be patient because he always just takes the half step back and throws the left as the move forward
. against slow footed slow fisted diaz he wasn't the same killer because diaz never has to lunge to close the gap. Were seeing a physical advantage on display more so than a godly technician.
 
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Hes a good south paw and uses that and reach well.

The divisions kinda suck.
 
He's not some godly striker but I agree he uses distance to counter well. WIth the Diaz fight he was exposed. Wait a year or two and other fighters will surely end his reign.

He's not on Jones' and Fedor's level.
 
Exactly , these guys that go nuts about his boxing are clueless . fundamentally boxing guys like bisping and Nick Diaz are easily more sound. what mcgregor utilize is more machida style of fencing/controlling distance but mcgregor has a few more wrinkles. he wins most of these fights on the physical gifts he has more than technical prowess. no 155 and under has his speed, power, and agility with his height and length. if he doesnt fix his fundamental defensive flaws before he leaves his physical prime he will pay big time. he paid for them against nate and has been tagged by smaller men at 145 but most of them just don't Crack well in the power department. 185 and up and the margin for error on defense jumps exponentially .
 
These were the themes on full display from Conor through out the fight

Control

Distance manipulation/deception

High level baiting tactics

We will cover each.

Take a seat, get some popcorn, and lets dive deeper into analysis! Its going to be a long one. Im covering everything as thoroughly as possible. Lets truly begin to understand the brilliance of Conor. A journey of epic proportion!

If you watch Alvarez, you know the staples of Alvarez's game are level changes (to create oppurtunities or open up) and his darting right straight lead

Here is Alvarez's darting right lead against RDA
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A darting right lead is when Alvarez will lead with the right with no wind up as he steps off to his left, taking himself off the center line - away from any return fire

Leaning to the left then leading with the right as you are stepping off to the left is something not many are used to or prepare for. And theres no telegraphing.

Alvarez has used this effectively against nearly everyone he has faced

What you will see is how Conor is just another supreme-being of a counter striker with truly educated footwork who operates on a higher dimensional plain of reality. I believe 3 of the 4 KDs (and the KO itself) actually came from Conor countering Alvarez's darting right leads



Firstly, I want to show the opening exchange below:

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Look how Conor fients a level change, and how it gets Alvarez to back out of range and circle into Conors opening 1-2 lead.

Already we see Conor utilising tactics (in this case, feints) to back him out and lead him where he wants him (into the 1-2)

After the 1-2 Conor ducks to pre-emptively avoid any return fire. Conor makes Alvarez's left hook-response miss.

Pure classic boxing skill. Shoot the lead and duck to pre-emptively avoid any return fire. Conor's boxing fundamentals are sound as can be and his knowledge of boxing (boxing IQ) is incredible

Now the reason why I wanted to show that is this. Conor actually utilised the same shoot and duck to lead against vs Aldo.

But here (against Alvarez) Conor feints a level change to lead Alvarez into it, and its a 1-2 this time. Another example of how Conor switches things up




Let us cover the 1st KD:

Alvarez is trying to swat Conor's lead hand away, but now watch closely how Conor fients to back Alvarez out of range. Conor establishes control of range

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Now pay attention to how Conor in control, changes head slots, leans forward to his right to appear as a closer target (hes completely off the center line defensively responsible) and then throws a non-committal throw away left at quarter speed. If Alvarez had tried to counter that bait shot, Conor was already a step ahead ready to counter and execute on the dime

You may ask what is all this Conor is doing? It is IS ALL TO ENTICE Alvarez to respond

Conor is making himself appear as a closer - more vulnerable target then he truly is

This is the deception "im close, im open, come get me"..

No real mistakes on Alvarez's part. Conor just simply being a MASTER of deception/baiting (Conor truly is MMA's Floyd)

Alvarez responded with his darting right lead as we saw

Because Conor is always taking good positioning, his head is already off the center line or hes out of range. He needs as little energy as possible to move and make the right lead miss
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Conor intercepts Alvarez instanly with a counter left to right hook combo before Alvarez can even step off to his left. Thats just amazing. Conor has the fastest reaction speeds in MMA.

Not only because of Conor's hair trigger reactions. You just blink an eyelid and Conor is reacting and already on the draw ready to counter that ass, but also because Conor is always controlling what his opponents do, so he always has a leg up.

The intercepting counter combo from Conor (before Alvarez can step off to his left) forces Alvarez out of position with him now stood with his feet parallel by Conor's counter.
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Conor literally now has the deadly T-position on Alvarez, and then instantly follows up over his shoulder with a sneaky flash of lighting left follow up right on the chin !

I mean...wow....thats just flawless control, deception, insane boxing skill, countering skill and super-human reaction speeds by Conor



Now lets move on

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Here Conor probes his lead hand as a blinder/distraction, then shoots a jab behind it. It may not seem like much, but pay attention to how it pushes Alvarez out of range and gets Alvarez circling back toward Conor's left (as the gif ends)

And you will see it through out the fight. Conor was utilising fients and flick jabs to push Alvarez out of range and to move him and or position him to where he wanted him (Into the left)


Here is another example

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Jab then push kick. Again to back Alvarez out of range (range control) and to get Alvarez to move where he wanted him to (back circling toward his left)


Alvarez in the post fight said what many of Conor's opponents have said,

"I made the mistake of willingly 'playing' Conor's game," like if Conor isnt the better fighter, that "they simply made mistakes"

They never realise how Conor was utilising tactics to move them to where he wanted them to and how in tandum utilises many distance deception methods to create a false sense of distance to lure in and counter

99% of MMA fighters are like first graders only programmed to understand checkers. Conor is BOBBY FISCHER PLAYING elite CHESS


This one is just sublime by Conor

Earlier we talked about how level changes are a large part of Alvarez's game

Pay close attention to the gif below how Conor takes a subtle step forward with his lead foot (while look at how his back foot is planted maintaining his range)

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This makes Alvarez think Conor is closer then he is. Conor utilising another form of distance deception to make Alvarez miss-read distance

Alvarez feints a level change. Conor sees it a mile away (btw, notice how Conor half-cocked an uppercut. Conor was prepared to counter Alvarez's level changes with uppercuts)

Conor now simply pulls back his lead foot to normal (notice back foot still around same distance through out). This draws Alvarez out for another attempt. Alvarez drops levels and tries to go up top with an uppercut off of it (very Mendes-esque)

Conor readys his back foot, plants, slips to the outside and counters with a cross face elbow

This is just world class boxing skill+footwork+defense+countering skill by Conor. Absolutely SUBLIME!

...and if Conor had missed the counter, he still wouldve been able to use his cross face elbow to jam Alvarez neck, control Alvarez's posture, shut down return fire, and or land off the control.

Everything Conor does has built-in defensive responsibility/control

Now lets go back to the gif again, as we saw here
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Now look at how - after Conor lands the outside slip to cross face elbow counter, Conor jabs to back Alvarez out of range (reset/re-establish range)...Conor then jabs again to get Alvarez moving toward his left again...

Again, Conor is a MASTER of manipulation...Hes on a chess board moving opponents to where HE WANTS THEM...that leads directly into the 2nd knockdown. It happens literally right after, so you can see how it was Conor's jabs and flick jabs that were "positioning" Alvarez in place for exchanges etc



Here is the 2nd KD from a new angle:

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Conor probing his lead hand constantly...not only can Conor feel out range, look how Alvarez is constantly reacting, its keeping Alvarez pre-occupied while Conor controls and maintains without leaving openings. PURE control by Conor.

Again, Conor leans off the center line and throws a noncommittal, 10% speed left

Again all to entice a response or lunge

"Distance/baiting"

Conor steps back as he counters undeneath Alvarez's darting right lead, right on the chin, then pivots out

Such beautiful legit world class boxing skill/countering skill by Conor

After viewing all the examples, and like we also saw in the Nate fight, Conor counters EVERYTHING, every step, every punch, every response. Conor is truly MMA's Floyd in reaction, skill, and IQ



This was such a beautiful sequence from Conor for KD #3:

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Lead hand control to shut down jab hand. This typically forces a right hand response. Conor was likely looking to draw out the right and slip and counter it ala Bunchinger.

But then you see Conor just completely mix it up on the fly when Alvarez is not biting. Shoots a smooth left straight off the lead hand distractions. Conor then instantly flicks a jab in Alvarez face to blind him for another left straight coming right behind it. Again, beautiful boxing skill by Conor



Below we will see how Alvarez actually managed to get a pretty good takedown attempt on Conor off a jab

Look at it from a new angle:

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That was actually a good shot attempt

Conor is just so fast with hair-trigger reaction speeds. Conor hops back and instantly gets underhooks. Pushes Alvarez up and swings him into an elbow off the break. Like I said in the Pettis thread, Conor will make you pay from every range and every position

Keep in mind, a hurt and tired Alvarez was still slamming Melendez in rounds 2 and 3, so Conor showed great TDD regardless if Alvarez was already hurt.



Lets look at this one:

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Again Conor leaning forward utilising distance deception. A jab feint from Conor draws out a left hook response from Alvarez, Conor simply pulls back into normal range from his lean while countering with a jab. It was actually a 1-2 counter attempt but Conor sees Alvarez hop away and stops the left

Another jab gets Alvarez moving toward Conor's left...As Alvarez is being walked toward Conor's left (by the lead hand probes/fients) Alvarez probes his own lead hand, Conor controls the lead hand then simultaneously shoots a left straight down the pipe, on the off beat, as Alvarez's jab hand is out - out of position, and as Alvarez was being circled into it.


Holy sweet jesus what outstanding boxing skill by Conor - Alvarez never has a clue

That sequence basically embodied the themes of the fight. Distance manipulation (jab feints to move him into where he wanted, control, execution)



Another one:

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Conor takes his head off the center line as he is leaning forward to his right. As Alvarez shoots a jab, Conor's head already off the center line, Conor simultaneously counters the jab. This is called a split entry counter left. I.e moving your head then timing and splitting the jab while off the center line. Split entry counter lefts were a staple of Manny Pacquiao's career. Its just another arsenal Conor has in his incredible tool box of counters

After Conor hits a beautiful split entry counter left, they battle with lead hands, Conor has both hands out now (likely to elicit some kind of response - physical or emotional)

As Alvarez steps forward, Conor hops back, As Alvarez tries to level change fient, Conor hops back again, Alvarez misses by a mile stepping into - and trying to come up top with a left hook-right straight. As Alvarez is vulnerable and out of position from missing, Conor comes back with a Super Saiyan 1-2 lol

This was due to Conor having given Alvarez false senses of distance through out the fight, and just scrambling his ability to ever read distance properly. Alvarez just never had a clue

That was just fucking sick. Pure fire by Conor. Conor is a real life master omega ninja who lives in the matrix!



In the gif below Alvarez gets a good shot in on Conor as Conor jabs...but again, Conor hops back, instantly gets underhooks, and pushes Alvarez up.
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Watch how Conor has his right hand on Alvarez neck to control him and come over the top with the left, then breaks away

Conor WILL make you pay for anything - from any range and any position..

You shoot in on Conor you better complete the TD because Conor will make you pay with strikes in transition or on the breakaway

Its been demonstarted again and again, Conor is money from every range, every position. Conor can make you pay from any range and any position. We saw proof of that in the Nate fight.

Theres never been any one more flawless in all ranges then Conor. Conor is the real p4p#1. Mighty Mouse at #1 is a joke btw. He has only fought one truly elite similar sized opponent in Cruz and he was out classed by Cruz yet "pound for pound"



Below is an example of how Conor will just give you a completey different look out of no where:

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Conor decides to start moving laterally to his left, Alvarez follows, Conor then switches direction and moves laterally to his right, Conor then walks Alvarez right into a left straight. Thats legit footwork skill by Conor to walk into offence. Conor then flows from it right into an uprising jab, to step out to outside angle, to another left straight down the pipe. Another beautiful sequence by Conor!

As you can see, Conor wont allow opponents to read him or time him

Varries jab speeds, varries speeds on punches, fients, distance deception..or will just switch it up. ."ok how about now I sart to move, then when an opponent follows, bam, left lead to uprising jab to step out to outside angle to left down the pipe"

Conor controls, shows opponens what he wants - when he wants, can switch it up at any time, gives different looks, fucks with his opponents ability to read distance, and just gives them false senses of security, only to get counter fucked in a blink of an eye. Conor is again the real Neo from the Matrix



I love this one because it shows Conor's shoulder rolls:

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Conor tucks his chin behind his lead shoulder, assumes philly stance, and turns his body in away from the punches catching Alvarez's right hands off his forearms

Conor has it all defensively and does it all defensively. Best defense in MMA by a long shot



Now we have arrived to the last exchange before the KO

Below we see Alvarez go for broke and come forward with a huge right hand into a combination attempt

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Conor attempts a counter left, they get tangled, both land...

But watch how afterwards Conor then dodges every follow up from Alvarez so effortlessly and smoothly likes hes in the Matrix

Weaves the left hook, plants and bends slipping to the outside of Alvarez's shoulder making Alvarez miss the right widly. Watch how Conor after slipping to the outside, places his right hand on Alvarez back to keep him off balanced and counter left

Matrix defense and matrix countering by Conor

Then of course, the KO happened. And we all have seen it. Just another example of how Conor is the real neo from the Matrix


In conclusion:

Alvarez came out doing everything he was prepared to do

Alvarez was clearly trying to do a Mendes, level change underneath his punches for TDs, strikes, or counter rights

Alvarez had the right idea. The problem is Conor improves dramatically

And the thing with Conor is that, Conor is even more like Floyd in that IF any thing ever works against Floyd and Conor, Floyd and Conor will instantly recongize it, patch that hole up, adjust to it, and never let it work again

Mendes had the only chance he ever had against an injuried Conor on short notice. Nate had his only chance he will ever have against Conor (in the 1st fight on short notice.) Now those holes have been patched up - in fact Conor even has turned them into strengths now


Every time Alvarez tried to step in:

"Heres a fient, now get back"

"Heres a jab, start circling toward my left"

"Heres a push kick"

"I control range and dictate when exchanges occur mother fucker"

Then Conor utilising many forms of world class boxing distance deception methods

"Let me change head slots and lean my head forward off the center line, im safe defensively, but you dont know that, im close, come get me" *then ba-bam Conor drops that smooth counter

"Ok let me step my lead foot forward to yours so that I feel closer to you, you lunge when I say, I pull to my resting back foot and drop that counter or dart back in with leads when you are out of position"

"Heres a slow left, im open, come get me," *then ba-bam Conor turns into the flash and lights you up like a christmass tree

"Oh you are not biting, thats fine, I will stay here and pump your face full of jabs, push kicks and safe set-up left leads all night. I will never give you an opening. I CONTROL when things happen. Pick your poison. Stay here and get picked apart all night, or lunge when I show/tell you to - and let the counter put you out of your misery"

Then it becomes a never ending repeating cycle, you never know the order and thats why opponents can never predict it

Conor's jabs, feints, flick jabs also served to keep Alvarez off set and continually messed with Alvarez's ability to time anything

This was just a completely evolved Super Saiyan Conor compared to the injuried Conor who fought on Mendes on short notice

When you compare the Alvarez fight to the Mendes fight IT really shows how much Conor has improved and evolved

CONOR took away and neautralized what Alvarez wanted to

Superior skill and IQ

These fighters will look great against each other. Put them up against Conor, Conor will strip them to their barebones, control, dictate, manipulate, and make them look ordinary

Conor's matrix performance over Alvarez was the most flawless performance we have ever seen in MMA at the highest level. Complete clinic and shut down of a legit prime elite opponent. Just wow. Dont take Conor for granted. We will never see anyone liie Conor in our life time. Enjoy and appreciate Conor now while we can and while we still have the oppurtunity. You dont want to look back and regret it, like the people who grew up durring Ali or Bruce Lee's time and took that for granted. Conor is a revolutionary once in human history game changer
Great breakdowns, always fun reading them and the GIFs are great. However, while I appreciate Conor as a fighter and person more than most sherdoggers, you are being too biased in your explanations xD do try to tone down the hyperbole next time :D
Otherwise, keep it up!
 
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