Am I the only one that thinks Conor has a chance against Floyd?

VIPERdude said:
i disagree in that he fought the best boxers in the world especially the ones he DID fight were out of their prime while he was in his.
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They were still on the list of the best boxers in the world whether or not you think one or two were left out.

And the only one anyone thinks had any real chance of beating him in his prime was Manny.

The thing about an idiosyncratic Boxing style that is alien to proper boxers, and has never actually been used against world class fighters (or anyone close to that level) is that it has a far better chance of getting you knocked out than it has of throwing them off.

The science of Boxing evolved in the exact way that it did for a reason, it works. First master the science in general, then work on revising it. Conor has not, he is a low level amateur. You might as well believe that some really tough street thug would beat both Mayweather or Conor in Boxing because he is even less trained and therefore even more "unpredictable".
 
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This fight is comical in it's insanity from a competitive standpoint - Conor will look like a child boxing Floyd (should have made it a kick boxing match).
 
He has as close to no chance as can be without it being NO chance. The fight would take place completely in Floyd's realm. Conor relies on one punch doing a lot of damage and then following up. Even if he were to crack Mayweather once really hard there's a good chance it doesn't hurt him with the heavy gloves. Even if he does manage to knock him down Floyd can regroup and proceed. More likely Mayweather frustrates the fuck out of McGregor with defense and movement and then starts to pot shot him when Conor either starts to gas or gets way too impatient. Conor probably makes the final bell but gets dinged up while barely touching Mayweather at all.
 
No, there are other retards on here who agree with you
 
VIPERdude said:
First I will say, I am NOT at all a Conor McGregor fan. I will admit to his phenomenal talent and would support any MMA fighter against Floyd Mayweather IF they had a chance, I believe in this case they do.

The fight is more likely to happen now that even Dana White is claiming that its "likely to happen", besides whether or not you think it will happen or not is irrelevant we can still discuss what would happen. Also Mayweather announced last week that he is no longer retired and that he wants to finally get it out with UFC star Conor McGregor after months of verbal jousting between the pair.

Mayweather is considered to be the best boxer in the world today arguably ever. That being said, he is a retired fighter, at the age of 40. Conor is in the prime of his career and unlike most fighters he likes to specialize in movement which contributes to lots of his success in the octagon. I wouldn't be surprised if the fight was a stale mate for a good while since both fighters are extremely great in defensive striking/countering.

I believe Conor has more of a chance than many critics give him and that's understandable. 49 boxers tried to dethrone Mayweeather and 49 failed. They were boxers and I think the fact that Conor is not a boxer but a completely different style that Mayweather hasnt seen yet will be what causes him to lose by knockout. I think Conor will prove to be quicker and will get to Floyd like others couldnt both with the trash talk and in the ring. Conor has the edge.

By the way it annoys me when people like Chael Sonnen...claim Conor has no chance because "its the same as a boxer stepping into an octagon, they will lose!" "we seen with James Toney", OK thats a given Chael...you should know out of all people, ANY fight that involves grounding an opponent that doesnt have the ground skill offense/defense will likely lose, its really common sense in that aspect.
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Firstly, Conor is a decent counter striker not a great defensive fighter. His offense overwhelms his opponents, he doesnt shut down there offense with his defense. He has a powerful left hand, he eats one to give one quite a lot. His striking defense isnt even great for MMA, let alone boxing, let alone the best defensive boxer of all time.

Secondly, the fact that Conor isnt a boxer WONT give him better chances in a boxing match, for christ sake. How did you even rationalize that one?

Thirdly, Floyd has a very large speed advantage. And i mean very large both in handspeed and reflexes and it is very obvious and apparent.

I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but its painfully obvious how limited you are in your knowledge of combat sports.
 
modulus said:
This fight is comical in it's insanity from a competitive standpoint - Conor will look like a child boxing Floyd (should have made it a kick boxing match).
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Floyd would get destroyed in less than two minutes in a kickboxing match with Conor, he would never agree to that. And yes in a Boxing match it will look like Floyd is fighting an uncoordinated 9 year old. The fight will be anti-climactic compared to the build up . But they'll make lots of money. If it actually happens that is.
 
Tonfa said:
There is no evidence that Conor even has a punchers chance. We dont actually know how hard he hits in 8 ounce gloves. Boxer Ray Mercer hit men 300 times in one night in a Boxing ring, but it only took him 8 seconds and one punch to take out a recently dethroned UFC champion who had never been Koed. After the fight Mercer remarked that he felt like he could knockout a polar bear in those tiny gloves. People for some reason are ignoring this issue. I think there is no way that Conor hits as hard as Canelo or Mosley, and at the same time he doesn't have an eighth of their skill.

Essentially, Conor has close to zero percent chance of winning that fight.
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I understand your point and agree except Mercer KOd what was left of Sylvia. Tim hadn't won a title fight in 3 or 4 years and skipped around several promotions by the time Mercer KOd him.
 
I'm not sure he even has a punchers chance, Floyd barely gets hit
 
bambammccoy said:
I understand your point and agree except Mercer KOd what was left of Sylvia. Tim hadn't won a title fight in 3 or 4 years and skipped around several promotions by the time Mercer KOd him.
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Well actually 2 years.
 
green giant said:
All they measured was force though, a soft object at the same force as a hard object which one do you think would win? Obviously the soft.
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death_by_teeps said:
My take on it is that a lot of KO's happen on the first punch of the fight. Tim's head was an easy, still, sitting duck for Ray. I saw some fight science or sports science show where they compared the force of a punch bare handed vs. with heavy gloves. Pretty close in force, with bare handed slightly higher.
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green giant said:
Because he wanted to fight in the truest form not a boxing match. He realized mma fighters would always beat boxers in a real fight and he is a purest. Plus he is a big fan of Bruce Lee and Bruce would always say "no style is the best style" hence mma.
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The fight science thing is not entirely accurate though - it would be if they were punching a bowling ball instead of a soft dummy or heavy bag.

Bare knuckle, or 4oz gloves don't protect the hand as much, and therefore don't allow you to throw as much weight into the punch. Boxing gloves allow you to consistently throw more of your weight into the punch, and distribute the force over the whole head, which means it delivers more concussive force. BK and mma gloves do more structural damage with less concussive force.
 
bambammccoy said:
Firstly, Conor is a decent counter striker not a great defensive fighter. His offense overwhelms his opponents, he doesnt shut down there offense with his defense. He has a powerful left hand, he eats one to give one quite a lot. His striking defense isnt even great for MMA, let alone boxing, let alone the best defensive boxer of all time.

Secondly, the fact that Conor isnt a boxer WONT give him better chances in a boxing match, for christ sake. How did you even rationalize that one?

Thirdly, Floyd has a very large speed advantage. And i mean very large both in handspeed and reflexes and it is very obvious and apparent.

I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but its painfully obvious how limited you are in your knowledge of combat sports.
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No you dont sound like a jerk, you sound like an expert, like most Sherdoggers :)

btw likely been watching longer than you kiddo so dont be one of those people who call out others knowledge for combat sports, its lame and over an opinion clearly you dont agree with, thats fine.
 
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tru3f4n said:
Um no I'm sure there are other ppl out that are misleading themselves into thinking Conor has a chance for whatever reason.
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I just see an old Floyd taking this as a joke ....and a prime Conor really wanting to fight.

Ya never know.....WE COULD SEE AN IVAN DRAGO VS APOLLO CREED SCENARIO lol RIP Floyd
 
Tonfa said:
They were still on the list of the best boxers in the world whether or not you think one or two were left out.

And the only one anyone thinks had any real chance of beating him in his prime was Manny.

The thing about an idiosyncratic Boxing style that is alien to proper boxers, and has never actually been used against world class fighters (or anyone close to that level) is that it has a far better chance of getting you knocked out than it has of throwing them off.

The science of Boxing evolved in the exact way that it did for a reason, it works. First master the science in general, then work on revising it. Conor has not, he is a low level amateur. You might as well believe that some really tough street thug would beat both Mayweather or Conor in Boxing because he is even less trained and therefore even more "unpredictable".
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But just because this is a boxing match doesnt mean Floyd shouldnt be worried about a kick. Conor wants to win the fight even if he has to go out the rules I can see that. One spinning kick to show Floyd (at a distance) he could be hit with a cheap shot might have him hesitant and wondering... if he is in there with someone that wants to really box him, or just beat him up any way possible to be the guy standing still? Even if he were to lose obviously. Its been a thought, not just mine.
 
In the end I still see a retired 40 year old who will be in there with a very fine tuned prime athlete. Sure Mayweather most likely will win the fight, BUT I am saying the guy has a better chance than many think due to his striking speed and accuracy. Many dont think he can catch Floyd but I disagree being a movements specialist in the octagon. again I am not even a Conor fan. I root against him most of the time and Floyd isnt used to a guy sprinting to him at the sound of the bell, not the typical feel out process we see in boxing, Conor will go in there to hit him even if he has to grab the guy and get a million warnings for doing so.
 
Delusional people . He barely got by Nate , Had to resort to runnig to reset . No way in the world does he have any more then a punches chance . I watched the Reign if Ali ,Frasier ,Norton , Holmes and everyone since George Forman on his second career .I just might know a thing or two about Boxing and the Hype of Connor .. Good like with that .. ROFLMAO
 
I dont get the whole notion that "oh conor isnt a boxer he may suprise mayweather" . Its literally strictly hands. Mayweather has so much time into training strictly hands hes seen anything conor can throw
 
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