Xbox Series X or PlayStation 5 - Which one will you buy?

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

Is that really a threat, though? I have yet to hear of any cases of Playstation controller batteries dying within a console's life cycle. Shit, my PS3 controller still has the same life it always had.

I’ve had a couple of PS3 controllers get to the point where they would no longer hold any charge whatsoever after about four years.

 

[mb23100]

Is that really a threat, though? I have yet to hear of any cases of Playstation controller batteries dying within a console's life cycle. Shit, my PS3 controller still has the same life it always had.

Really? I went through at least 6 controllers with my ps4. I attempted to change the batteries once and I couldn't get the springs back in the triggers.

 

[Dizzy]

I’ve had a couple of PS3 controllers get to the point where they would no longer hold any charge whatsoever after about four years.

Really? I went through at least 6 controllers with my ps4. I attempted to change the batteries once and I couldn't get the springs back in the triggers.

So weird, I have my original PS3 and 4 controllers that still work great. DS3 was the GOAT for battery life.

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

So weird, I have my original PS3 and 4 controllers that still work great. DS3 was the GOAT for battery life.

Well I’d agree that in terms of length of a charge the DS3 > DS4 > Dualsense, it doesn’t mean it’s impervious to eventually not being able to hold a charge at all as was the case for a couple of mine. I bought my PS3 in 2011 and one of its controllers crapped out by about 2015, and then one of the controllers I replaced it with no longer holds a charge as of right now. Hadn’t touched my PS3 in a long time but I noticed it about 5 months ago that it won’t hold a charge anymore. A third controller’s d pad stopped working around 2016 I think. So while it’s definitely a great controller I’ve nonetheless gone through 3 of my 4 DS3s.

 

[Dizzy]

Well I’d agree that in terms of length of a charge the DS3 > DS4 > Dualsense, it doesn’t mean it’s impervious to eventually not being able to hold a charge at all as was the case for a couple of mine. I bought my PS3 in 2011 and one of its controllers crapped out by about 2015, and then one of the controllers I replaced it with no longer holds a charge as of right now. Hadn’t touched my PS3 in a long time but I noticed it about 5 months ago that it won’t hold a charge anymore. A third controller’s d pad stopped working around 2016 I think. So while it’s definitely a great controller I’ve nonetheless gone through 3 of my 4 DS3s.

Of course it doesn’t. I’m just surprised as I’ve never had issues with either generation. I haven’t checked my PS3 in about a year but the controllers I got over 10 years ago were still going.

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

Of course it doesn’t. I’m just surprised as I’ve never had issues with either generation. I haven’t checked my PS3 in about a year but the controllers I got over 10 years ago were still going.

I found the DS4 even worse. One of them stopped holding a charge after about 3 years.

 

[Dizzy]

I found the DS4 even worse. One of them stopped holding a charge after about 3 years.

Interesting, maybe because I had a few controllers the draining wasn’t as bad. All of my DS4’s are going strong.

 

[Madmick]

buying batteries is a thing of the past. this isnt 1995. "best thing about the Xbox is the replaceable batteries. The ability to swap them out in a few seconds and have a full charge is awesome. You just have to buy rechargeable ones." i dont have to swap shit out with a ps5. those few seconds replacing batteries every other day over 5 years adds up. the best thing about the xbox is the replacable batteries ROFL. PS5 has no batteries. they adapted with modern times 14 years ago. the charging station for my sons xbox 1 broke 3 times. batteries went limp. had to replace. spent upwards of 80 dollars keeping up with rechargable batteries. xbox is a money sink. spend 500 dollars on a console then have to go spend an extra 100-200 for accesories is ridiculous.

In 1995 there weren't USB-rechargeable battery docks. The primary difference is that Xbox offers you choice. Sony offers none. Per controller charging solutions, the Xbox objectively offers the superior options.

 

[Schoolboy Q]

I found the DS4 even worse. One of them stopped holding a charge after about 3 years.

2 of my 4 DS4’s crapped out.

 

[witt1021]

In 1995 there weren't USB-rechargeable battery docks. The primary difference is that Xbox offers you choice. Sony offers none. Per controller charging solutions, the Xbox objectively offers the superior options.

. Xbox offers you choices……at an extra price of course. That is not superior in any way. In fact the charging station I got isn’t even a Microsoft brand it’s aftermarket. Microsoft offered me no options, aftermarket did tho. If you have to purchase something after an initial purchase, shows that they aren’t giving you a product you want, or you wouldn’t be purchasing aftermarket shit after shelling out 500 dollars.

 

[Madmick]

. Xbox offers you choices……at an extra price of course. That is not superior in any way. In fact the charging station I got isn’t even a Microsoft brand it’s aftermarket. Microsoft offered me no options, aftermarket did tho. If you have to purchase something after an initial purchase, shows that they aren’t giving you a product you want, or you wouldn’t be purchasing aftermarket shit after shelling out 500 dollars.

Xbox offers more choice. This is superior for the consumer. Objectively. Microsoft has formally partnered with dozens of companies to officially support these accessories. So you're not even getting that right.

Value is a different proposition, but the XSX controller is $10* less than the Dualsense 5, so it the XSX controller leads that race out of the gate. It's up to each gamer to decide whether he believes the DS5 is worth the extra $10*.

*Edit Correction: $20 less (in the USA)

 

[RondoPG]

Yeah, of all the things to praise Xbox for, the whole "You still need AA batteries for your controller, or you can buy a charge station separately", is not one of them. It's pretty fucking embarrassing, actually. They should just be re-chargeable out of the box, like, well, damn near every modern device. Imagine buying an iPhone, and it didn't come with a charge cord, and instead you had replace lithium batteries every week. Ridiculous that MS hasn't evolved in that area yet.

AA batteries last longer. Ps4 controllers had a bad life.

 

[RondoPG]

Xbox offers more choice. This is superior for the consumer. Objectively. Microsoft has formally partnered with dozens of companies to officially support these accessories. So you're not even getting that right.

Value is a different proposition, but the XSX controller is $10 less than the Dualsense 5, so it the XSX controller leads that race out of the gate. It's up to each gamer to decide whether he believes the DS5 is worth the extra $10.

Ps5 DS destroys the xbox controller. This is coming from a xbox fanboy

 

[HereticBD]

AA batteries last longer. Ps4 controllers had a bad life.

Longer than a charge? Arguable, I guess. However, when the charge runs out, all you gotta do is charge it back up. When the AA batteries run out, you gotta replace them. All them batteries add up over time. Also depends on what batteries you're using. I've used some cheap ones that last about five hours before they're spent.

At the end of the day, the charge is better and more economic. AA batteries are pretty ghetto for this type of device, and totally inexcusable at this point in time. Imagine any other modern electronic device relying on AA batteries. It would be ridiculous.

 

[Madmick]

Ps5 DS destroys the xbox controller. This is coming from a xbox fanboy

I don't care about contesting that because those are subjective. I'm talking about what can objectively be compared. Choice is an objective advantage. The additional cost for those who desire lithium packs is a concrete consideration, but as I pointed out, it's offset by the lower cost of the XSX controllers. In fact, the difference is usually more than $10. At Best Buy the price for the DS5 is $70, and that's been regular since launch. Meanwhile, the "Carbon Black" XSX controller directly from Microsoft has been $50 (like it is now) since the beginning of the year:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/xbox-wireless-controller/8xn59crbsqgz
In fact, you can get the XSX controller + a 9' USB-C cable for $60. Thus, the cable only costs $10, and that's less than the cheapest 9'+ USB-C cables on Amazon:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/xbox-wireless-controller-usb-c-cable/8t8kcnb1xs3d

Longer than a charge? Arguable, I guess. However, when the charge runs out, all you gotta do is charge it back up. When the AA batteries run out, you gotta replace them. All them batteries add up over time. Also depends on what batteries you're using. I've used some cheap ones that last about five hours before they're spent.

At the end of the day, the charge is better and more economic. AA batteries are pretty ghetto for this type of device, and totally inexcusable at this point in time. Imagine any other modern electronic device relying on AA batteries. It would be ridiculous.

No, charging isn't more economic because the controllers battery lives depreciate after a few years, just like cellphones, and I've cited research papers on the means & medians of lithium battery degradation in the past. At that point you have to buy a brand new $70 controller to regain a full charge. I've never once gone into a smartphone thread where people don't complain about a significant reduction in their battery life after just a year. Meanwhile, not only can controllers with rechargeable AA battery doors be used to continue playing wirelessly beyond the lifespan of a single charge with an easy hot swap, but when a rechargeable battery dies, you may just replace it with a new battery.

There are a lot of choices here:
https://www.windowscentral.com/best-xbox-series-x-s-charging-accessories

Microsoft offers its own charge and play kit, but it partnered with and endorses Moga's PowerA products as official accessories for their controllers. Take a look.
($12.69) PowerA Charging Battery Packs [2 x 1100mAh]

($19.99) Single Charging Stand [Includes 1x 1100mAh rechargeable battery, 2 battery doors, and 1M USB charging cable]

($24.60) Dual Charging Stand [Includes 2 x 1100mAh rechargeable batteries, 4 battery doors]

$49.99, Xbox Series X controller (includes 2 x Duracell AA batteries, original AA battery door) +
$12.49, 2 x 1100 mAh rechargeable batteries
= $62.68

$49.99, Xbox Series X controller (includes 2 x Duracell AA batteries, original AA battery door) +
$19.99, Moga PowerA Single Battery Stand (Charging Station, 1 x 1100mAh rechargeable battery, 1m USB cable)
= $69.98


Xbox wins here. Flat out. Thought everyone had this figured out months ago. The DS5 hangs its hat on the haptic/adaptive feedback: being the only "next gen" controller. It gets its shit pushed in everywhere else (affordability, flexibility, interoperability, backwards compatibility).

 

[RondoPG]

I don't care about contesting that because those are subjective. I'm talking about what can objectively be compared. Choice is an objective advantage. The additional cost for those who desire lithium packs is a concrete consideration, but as I pointed out, it's offset by the lower cost of the XSX controllers. In fact, the difference is usually more than $10. At Best Buy the price for the DS5 is $70, and that's been regular since launch. Meanwhile, the "Carbon Black" XSX controller directly from Microsoft has been $50 (like it is now) since the beginning of the year:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/xbox-wireless-controller/8xn59crbsqgz
In fact, you can get the XSX controller + a 9' USB-C cable for $60. Thus, the cable only costs $10, and that's less than the cheapest 9'+ USB-C cables on Amazon:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/xbox-wireless-controller-usb-c-cable/8t8kcnb1xs3d

No, charging isn't more economic because the controllers battery lives depreciate after a few years, just like cellphones, and I've cited research papers on the means & medians of lithium battery degradation in the past. At that point you have to buy a brand new $70 controller to regain a full charge. I've never once gone into a smartphone thread where people don't complain about a significant reduction in their battery life after just a year. Meanwhile, not only can controllers with rechargeable AA battery doors be used to continue playing wirelessly beyond the lifespan of a single charge with an easy hot swap, but when a rechargeable battery dies, you may just replace it with a new battery.

There are a lot of choices here:
https://www.windowscentral.com/best-xbox-series-x-s-charging-accessories

Microsoft offers its own charge and play kit, but it partnered with and endorses Moga's PowerA products as official accessories for their controllers. Take a look.
($12.69) PowerA Charging Battery Packs [2 x 1100mAh]

($19.99) Single Charging Stand [Includes 1x 1100mAh rechargeable battery, 2 battery doors, and 1M USB charging cable]

($24.60) Dual Charging Stand [Includes 2 x 1100mAh rechargeable batteries, 4 battery doors]

$49.99, Xbox Series X controller (includes 2 x Duracell AA batteries, original AA battery door) +
$12.49, 2 x 1100 mAh rechargeable batteries
= $62.48

$49.99, Xbox Series X controller (includes 2 x Duracell AA batteries, original AA battery door) +
$19.99, Moga PowerA Single Battery Stand (Charging Station, 1 x 1100mAh rechargeable battery, 1m USB cable)
= $69.98


Xbox wins here. Flat out. Thought everyone had this figured out months ago. The DS5 hangs its hat on the haptic/adaptive feedback: being the only "next gen" controller. It gets its shit pushed in everywhere else (affordability, flexibility, interoperability, backwards compatibility).

Sony has haptic feedback, adaptive triggers, a mic and a touchpad on their controller.

 

[Madmick]

Sony has haptic feedback, adaptive triggers, a mic and a touchpad on their controller.

I already explained I don't care. Subjectively quantify this however you wish. I spoke to the objective apples-to-apples comparison that can be made for charging solutions (and cost).

 

[Deleted member 539235]

in the major uk retailers a dualsense costs 59.99, at most 64.99 for a red one

xbox controller with an official charge kit comes to 74-75, and that's before adding the haptic rumble pak

 

[RondoPG]

I already explained I don't care. Subjectively quantify this however you wish. I spoke to the objective apples-to-apples comparison that can be made for charging solutions (and cost).

what do you think is the better console

 

[Deleted member 539235]

i will say, i now get people's reasoning for preferring the "choice" but as a casual it was pretty funny to come back to games and find xbox still used AAs and i'm sure a lot of parents buying for their kids think wtf on christmas morning too