UrbanSavage**
Pepe Silvia
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How close was the last armbar attempt? Just out of curiosity.
Can't blame Xande, got to play a smart gameplan vs a larger opponent.
Damn, as in the arm was locking out? I can't wait to see footage of the match. Was the ending only controversial in your opinion or did it seem like a common opinion in the crowd that Roger was getting a raw deal?
The sad paret is that more and more guys stall out when they are competing. Both the guy I lost to and the guy that beat my teammate stalled us out for a majority of our fights. I just hate to see guys bring down the game by not going for the sub or advance at all. That said Xande is a stud.
The sad paret is that more and more guys stall out when they are competing. Both the guy I lost to and the guy that beat my teammate stalled us out for a majority of our fights. I just hate to see guys bring down the game by not going for the sub or advance at all. That said Xande is a stud.
I really don't understand. If you don't want to be stalled against then don't lose points in the first place or score your own first.
It's true that they let people stall for points too much in tournaments. The "Ribeiro" style is extremely effective, but painfully boring. I wish they would penalize for stalling more in BJJ.
That's easy enough to say, but it encourages a super-safe style and a lot of cheezy attempts to get arguable "takedowns." It punishes people who actually play an open and aggressive game, rewarding those who play a conservative, stalling game that works the calls and advantages.
I really don't understand. If you don't want to be stalled against then don't lose points in the first place or score your own first.
Just an example, if I got a takedown and then passed someones guard and proceed to stall the rest of the match. You are saying you would look down upon that performance?
Im not to familiar with the "ribeiro" style you speak of, and i have been to three seminars with those guys. Xande said that one of the main goals of a jiu jitsu fighter is to get the mount and choke. If you look at his 06 run what did he do for the majority of the tournament. Even if this tournament was not the case he beat the best that was thrown his way. Bashing two of the best jiu jitsu fighters that have ever lived is kind of absurd
It depends what you mean by "look down." I do think it's lame that you can win this way. I blame the rules, not the fighters who have to live by the rules. From a sport perspective it's painfully boring, from a competitor perspective it's dishearteningly dull, and from a fighting perspective it's counterproductive IMHO. I'd like to see the rules encourage a more attacking style -- like Rickson or Jean Jacques Machado -- and less of the stall-a-riffic style.
In that situation, why can't you blame the guy for not defending the takedown, or the pass? I mean the victim of getting stalled out shouldn't complain about it is what I'm saying. I agree it's boring as hell though.