Would you ever raise another man's child?

[Chad R. Thundercock]

I'm 32 and Mexican, all the Latinas my age not only have kids, but are most likely divorced with kids from different guys.

I myself don't want kids and I'm actually considering getting a vasectomy this year.

Dating single moms can be fun, they usually aren't as demanding as the ladies without kids. If it's not your thing then simply move onto the next one. Although I would preferably not raise another man's child, I don't have anything against those that choose to. Live and let live.

This thread reminded me of the Tom Leykis show btw. Any leykis 101 students out there?

28, kidless, and also from LA. I know what you mean. And yes, I have listened to Leykis 101 in the past. Dude was cucked hard in his youth.

 

[steve38]

This thread reminded me of the Tom Leykis show btw. Any leykis 101 students out there?

ha...I thought the same thing. What was his line? "I'm not going to pay for some other guy's mistake." Yeah, like some of the posters in this thread, he was definitely over the top.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

The thing is, I am aware of red pill/pua/mgtow but, I don't identify with either.

I am as non-conformist as you can be.

I don't follow the beaten path of married + 2.2 children + wife after trashed SMV + white picket fence.

I am not playing that game.

I think I could lighten up a bit lol its just these cucks need some tough love.


The thing is, if I was out on social media or blasting this chit in shopping malls, some white knight cuck would crush my fucking head with a bolder from behind (note cowardice) in the name of female victimhood.

The same cuck would get divorced after playing white knight, raising her babies, and getting taken to the cleaners.

I too am an independent non-conformist like you are and don't like to be part of a group or tribe. I look at The Red Pill as a form of philosophy, not as a collective movement. Really though, all of the adherents of TRP are non-conforming, free thinkers themselves. The only thing that sets us adherents apart from the rest of the population is our stronger understanding of women and human beings in general in regards to relationship dynamics and the dichotomy of the male/female psychology.

Anyway, keep doing you and fight the good fight. Just be aware that ignorance can bring a sense of false security and bliss to most people on this goddamn planet, and it'll take an Herculean effort for them to accept the truth before disaster strikes in their relationships.

Trust me, it wasn't easy for me to accept said truth and have spent years in denial. I am still in my late 20's like you.

 

[Damien Karras]

Did you have success with women when you were younger?
Like in your natural prime for women say 16-24 when you just met women everywhere in college with friends or parties etc.?

You seem like a guy that never went through the natural dating and fucking phase.
And now is trying to make up for it. But all the good girls are already gone or you can't get them.
And now you have to convince yourself all woman are bad.

I'm sure he was but he just never got tired of it.

People do what they want to do until they figure that the way they live their life doesn't work for them anymore.

He shouldn't impose his worldview on anyone though. Women aren't money hungry whores like he makes them out to be. Maybe the women he frequents portray themselves as such but not the ones in mine. I dunno, it bothers me when I see guys pump their chests and brag about the women they bagged. I think it is immature. I see him as someone who is incapable of forming deep relationships with people.

 

[Damien Karras]

Spoiler that shit. Some of these women should be put down.

Most of these women are bots.

 

[BisexualMMA]

Why do you care so much about your genes? They don't give a fuck about you.

They play you like a fiddle...

 

[Jumpy]

Interesting. I've thought about this a lot lately: well, having children in general.

I want to have my own children, someday. I didn't always feel that way, but I've grown softer as I've matured... and I'd really love to have my own family.
Truth is, I don't know if I'm capable of having children. For years and years I had unprotected sex, and I don't think I have ever once had a pregnancy scare. I'm not sure if it was my immaculate timing on the pull out method, her baby maker, or my baby batter, but for whatever reasons, and only as far as I know, there were never any occurrences of pregnancy.

So, I may end up in a situation where a gal and I fall in love and want to have children, but I could be unable to make little ones. If that is the case, I'd probably want to adopt. On the other hand, I've never dated a woman with children. I do, however, have a step father, so I can relate in a sense. He definitely didn't raise me, I was 15/16 when I met him, but he has had a huge impact on my life and I am thankful for and truly love my step dad. I'd probably take a similar approach: I'm not going to try and be your father, especially if the kid has a father in their life still, but I will do my best to nurture, protect, guide, and love this theoretical adolescent.

If my hypothetical lover has a baby, say toddler aged, then we would have to have a discussion: is the biological-father going to be in the child's life? Would she like me to adopt the baby so we're officially family? I think that is important, but regardless of the outcome of that conversation, I'd still do the same for the kid as I mentioned above: nurture, protect, guide and love.

So, the answer is yes, I would raise another man's child, depending on the circumstances. Blood is important, but what really matters is how everyone feels. Do we all love and support one another, no matter what? Then we're family, and I don't give a shit who your biological parents are.

 

[sub_thug]

My buddy is on his second marriage. The guy is a Green Beret, so anyone that wants to call him a "beta" can suck a dick. He has custody of his kids because his first wife is a terrible person and no longer in the picture at all. His second wife has kids from her first marriage. Her first husband was also a Green Beret, and he passed away from what I think was cancer in the late-90's. When my buddy and his second wife got married, they adopted one another's kids as a means of blending their lives. So my buddy is raising another man's kids. Does that make him a cuck?

 

[quatin]

I would like to flip the question upside down. Would you ever let another man raise your child?
Let's bypass the obvious ones like, you died and your wife remarries. What if you split with the wife and she remarries? What if you had an accident with some random chic who wants to keep the kid? Do you just bail and pay child support?

If you let another man raise your child. Your kid will see him as dad, no matter how you define the genetic/social construct of the term "father". He will grow old with a family around him and your kid will be taking care of him at old age, not you. You'll also be on the hook for child support, paying so your kid can call someone else dad. Let's not pretend that you can pull the "blood" card and your kid will magically come back to you.

It seems like a lot of people posting here are kids still. What do you think the purpose of children are? To pass on your genes? If your genes are that worthwhile, donate to a sperm bank. For most other people, having children is about surrounding yourself with family as you age. Having a kid that's partially being paid for by someone else is a sweet deal. That's why you see a lot of couples have a 2nd kid in this situation. Kids are expensive, it's like buy 1 get 50% off.

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

I too am an independent non-conformist like you are and don't like to be part of a group or tribe. I look at The Red Pill as a form of philosophy, not as a collective movement. Really though, all of the adherents of TRP are non-conforming, free thinkers themselves. The only thing that sets us adherents apart from the rest of the population is our stronger understanding of women and human beings in general in regards to relationship dynamics and the dichotomy of the male/female psychology.

I changed. I did not wake up and suddenly be awesome. I spent a long period of time working on myself, reading a lot, traveling the world, lifting weights 6x a week, mma, meditation, yoga, and obviously getting girls. i saw throught he BS that society promotes. i saw the sequences of events in polar contrast to what women/society said. So, fuck it. I will watch it burn. No harm. No foul. Fuck not given. I sure as fuck will not play into the game.

[Anyway, keep doing you and fight the good fight. Just be aware that ignorance can bring a sense of false security and bliss to most people on this goddamn planet, and it'll take an Herculean effort for them to accept the truth before disaster strikes in their relationships.

I put on my pants one leg at a time like everyone else. I am constantly learning. If a man is told to hit on absurd amounts of women, to have options, and choose eventually from those options.

Instead, society promotes cuckoldry, single mother victimhood, and pandering to female entitlement. It is not to say all are bad but, far from the special snowflake disney characters tv promotes. It doesn't have to be red pill/mgtow/pua to shine light on what actually is happening. Engaing with a lot of women, you see a series of behaviors, and sexual release is not enough to plant your flag in one place.

Trust me, it wasn't easy for me to accept said truth and have spent years in denial. I am still in my late 20's like you.

So, what is your solution?

I am still working on it. I hit on absurd am0unts of women. Bunting is phaggotry. Out to hit dingers or strike out miserably. Lifes way the fuck too boring not to try.

The reality is that, even Kobe/Crosby/Jordan/Gretzky have bad days. Its just the way of the world.

I wont be footing the bills for single moms when playboy stops calling. I know many hot girls that just ruined their life as a single mom. Absolute fucking stupidity. Many are years younger than me but, with the parade of free money, what is to be expected?

Until the parade of free money exists, women will continue to squeeze out bastard kids from different men. As long as cucks are around to clean up the mess, it wont change. It will take government failing to provide free money/wel fare state before change happens.

Unfortunately, the gig is up. Female nature has shown its true colors. Its not to say, all are evil. Its that most men hold out for the NAWALT. All it takes is some manipulative cunt to put ont he good girl act and some beta will play home with her.

 

[Rod1]

Yes, i would. What kind of question is this?

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

I changed. I did not wake up and suddenly be awesome. I spent a long period of time working on myself, reading a lot, traveling the world, lifting weights 6x a week, mma, meditation, yoga, and obviously getting girls. i saw throught he BS that society promotes. i saw the sequences of events in polar contrast to what women/society said. So, fuck it. I will watch it burn. No harm. No foul. Fuck not given. I sure as fuck will not play into the game.



I put on my pants one leg at a time like everyone else. I am constantly learning. If a man is told to hit on absurd amounts of women, to have options, and choose eventually from those options.

Instead, society promotes cuckoldry, single mother victimhood, and pandering to female entitlement. It is not to say all are bad but, far from the special snowflake disney characters tv promotes. It doesn't have to be red pill/mgtow/pua to shine light on what actually is happening. Engaing with a lot of women, you see a series of behaviors, and sexual release is not enough to plant your flag in one place.



So, what is your solution?

I am still working on it. I hit on absurd am0unts of women. Bunting is phaggotry. Out to hit dingers or strike out miserably. Lifes way the fuck too boring not to try.

The reality is that, even Kobe/Crosby/Jordan/Gretzky have bad days. Its just the way of the world.

I wont be footing the bills for single moms when playboy stops calling. I know many hot girls that just ruined their life as a single mom. Absolute fucking stupidity. Many are years younger than me but, with the parade of free money, what is to be expected?

Until the parade of free money exists, women will continue to squeeze out bastard kids from different men. As long as cucks are around to clean up the mess, it wont change. It will take government failing to provide free money/wel fare state before change happens.

Unfortunately, the gig is up. Female nature has shown its true colors. Its not to say, all are evil. Its that most men hold out for the NAWALT. All it takes is some manipulative cunt to put ont he good girl act and some beta will play home with her.

I'm doing fine right now. I have no problem with approaching or talking to women. Rejections don't faze me anymore. I look at most women as little kids - most of them talk about mundane bullshit that I couldn't give a fuck about. If they spurt out something absurd, then I don't hesitate to tease the shit out of them for their foolishness. I don't give "likes" to selfies of women on social media; I'm above that narcissistic nonsense.

I too don't believe in the concept of marriage. It's a crock of shit and in today's society, it's the men who will end up getting fucked in the ass when the impending divorce comes around.

I don't let myself get manipulated by women anymore - no matter how slight the insult or suggestions. If she gets out of line during a date, I put my foot down and call the date over. If she flakes out on a date, then I erase her number from my contact and move on.

If she makes a suggestion or insistence that I change (for example, I smoke a pack of cigarettes a day and I have no intention to quit right now), then I brush it off, or when worst comes to worst, I tell her to shut the fuck up. I don't value their opinions at all, and I'll be damned if some chick attempts to dictate my lifestyle.

I am completely emotionless when I'm with females, and never fall into the trap of falling in love with them without having known them for a long time. I screen the shit out of them for any flaws, and if I deem them unworthy of being a girlfriend material, then I categorize them as a fuck buddy and nothing more.



Yes, I know what you're talking about because I've been in the same place as you. I've had my shares of blunders, depression, anger issues, frustration at the world in general. But now, I embrace the philosophy of Absurdism. Check out my thread about Absurdism in Mayberry if you haven't already.

 

[Dizzy]

If a woman has a man's baby, and he's not around to care for it, she dun goofed, whether it was by fucking the wrong guy, getting knocked up by said guy, or by not doing what she needed to do to keep him around. No thanks.

Not always that simple.

Friend of mine married a guy she had dated for years. He was in the military and after deployment came back a completely different person due to PTSD. They had a kid that he completely walked out on and she's now a single mother.

How is that a goof?

 

[Dizzy]

To answer the OP though, it's not out of the realm of possibility but it's definitely something that would be difficult for me to do. Obviously depends on the situation though.

If it's a joint custody situation and the kid still has support from both parents, I think it would make it easier so long as both parties were adults about the situation.

 

[Tamriel Terror]

Well for me I'm 23 so I definitely don't want kids any time soon, so for sure I wouldn't raise another person's kid.

I'm way to selfish to take care of a child, my gf is the same way. Neither of us want that burden of responsibility.

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

I'm doing fine right now. I have no problem with approaching or talking to women. Rejections don't faze me anymore. I look at most women as little kids - most of them talk about mundane bullshit that I couldn't give a fuck about. If they spurt out something absurd, then I don't hesitate to tease the shit out of them for their foolishness. I don't give "likes" to selfies of women on social media; I'm above that narcissistic nonsense.

When the hits of dopamine from social media 'likes' and male validation stop coming in, the girls play a different tune.

Peak SMV = Diva behavior + acting retarded as if being dumb is cute

SMV crash/hit the wall = victimhood + putting on the good girl act


Tons of cucks will play that game.

I too don't believe in the concept of marriage. It's a crock of shit and in today's society, it's the men who will end up getting fucked in the ass when the impending divorce comes around.

80% of the time, when are the ones initiating divorce.
Dudes continue to march forward like lambs to the slaughter.

I don't let myself get manipulated by women anymore - no matter how slight the insult or suggestions. If she gets out of line during a date, I put my foot down and call the date over. If she flakes out on a date, then I erase her number from my contact and move on.

I remember when I was 15/16, this girl would message me that she "misses me," always during a fight/breakup with a bf. I would take it at face value and go over. We would hookup. Meanwhile, she is texting and calling her bf who is saying, he will come down to fight me.

At first, I am thinking, if he comes, I will light him up. Then, I remembered something my dad said and it clicked in. HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT DUDE KNOW I AM THERE?

She is a walking STD and crack whore today.

If she makes a suggestion or insistence that I change (for example, I smoke a pack of cigarettes a day and I have no intention to quit right now), then I brush it off, or when worst comes to worst, I tell her to shut the fuck up. I don't value their opinions at all, and I'll be damned if some chick attempts to dictate my lifestyle.

Some women actually care about your health. The smoking is in fact unhealth and a carcinogen. If she tried changing how you talk, act, the way you walk, how you dress etc. tell her to go fuck herself lol

The dictated lifestyle is what a lot of men settle for not to mention, wife up expired SMV.

I know a dude who has a $20 allowance a month. WTF?

I am completely emotionless when I'm with females, and never fall into the trap of falling in love with them without having known them for a long time. I screen the shit out of them for any flaws, and if I deem them unworthy of being a girlfriend material, then I categorize them as a fuck buddy and nothing more.

I keep track of text msgs/screen shot, and have apps to keep snapchats without showing the other person. Its a must a now a days whereby a woman doesn't get the girl and she makes up false abuse or rapey accusations.

Yes, I know what you're talking about because I've been in the same place as you. I've had my shares of blunders, depression, anger issues, frustration at the world in general. But now, I embrace the philosophy of Absurdism. Check out my thread about Absurdism in Mayberry if you haven't already.

Haven't seen it. Will do.

Create daily habits that set you up for success. I meditate early morning and before bed. I pray. I workout. I do yoga. I stretch/foam roll. I use the hot tub to decompress and a variety of other things to set myself up for success. I chat up girls everywhere. I could be buying groceries and I chat up the girl at cash or waitress. A bit of rapport, you drop invites, and you take digits. You pull and repeat. You strike out too but, there are no two ways about it.

Go get girls or join the beaten path of cuck central.

 

[equus]

not if that other mans name was Lavar Ball. i'd push said kids out into the ocean on a raft and no paddles.

 

[Dizzy]

When the hits of dopamine from social media 'likes' and male validation stop coming in, the girls play a different tune.

Peak SMV = Diva behavior + acting retarded as if being dumb is cute

SMV crash/hit the wall = victimhood + putting on the good girl act


Tons of cucks will play that game.



80% of the time, when are the ones initiating divorce.
Dudes continue to march forward like lambs to the slaughter.



I remember when I was 15/16, this girl would message me that she "misses me," always during a fight/breakup with a bf. I would take it at face value and go over. We would hookup. Meanwhile, she is texting and calling her bf who is saying, he will come down to fight me.

At first, I am thinking, if he comes, I will light him up. Then, I remembered something my dad said and it clicked in. HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT DUDE KNOW I AM THERE?

She is a walking STD and crack whore today.



Some women actually care about your health. The smoking is in fact unhealth and a carcinogen. If she tried changing how you talk, act, the way you walk, how you dress etc. tell her to go fuck herself lol

The dictated lifestyle is what a lot of men settle for not to mention, wife up expired SMV.

I know a dude who has a $20 allowance a month. WTF?



I keep track of text msgs/screen shot, and have apps to keep snapchats without showing the other person. Its a must a now a days whereby a woman doesn't get the girl and she makes up false abuse or rapey accusations.



Haven't seen it. Will do.

Create daily habits that set you up for success. I meditate early morning and before bed. I pray. I workout. I do yoga. I stretch/foam roll. I use the hot tub to decompress and a variety of other things to set myself up for success. I chat up girls everywhere. I could be buying groceries and I chat up the girl at cash or waitress. A bit of rapport, you drop invites, and you take digits. You pull and repeat. You strike out too but, there are no two ways about it.

Go get girls or join the beaten path of cuck central.

I still see you're just as crazy as ever.

Have you already posted the same lame ass screenshots from a girl that texted you five years ago to try and impress everyone?

 

[bowened]

I lean towards no, for a couple of reasons.

1. I would hate to live in a co-parenting situation. Seems like a real pain in the ass to have your woman's ex perpetually involved in your life.

2. I've dated women who had kids and I immediately realized i would ALWAYS take a backseat to the kid. That's fine and the way it should be, but not a place I'm interested in being. When it's your own kid it's different because you put them above all else as well.


I don't say any of that to discredit any of the men who do step into that situation. It's just my preference. I've known some outstanding men who became stepfathers and raised kids when the loser biological fathers couldn't get the job done. I hold that in high regard.

 

[HunterAcosta]

I find that generally ( not always of course ) those that are black and white on subjects like this , with no room for gray areas , tend to be the ones eating their words later and being in the exact situation they rallied so hard against . Call it karma or whatever u like . Seen it happen time and time again .