Wonderboy is lucky WW has so few MT fighters

Someone else made this same exact thread before. Is this your second account?
 
Oh, also, wonderboy has been training muay thai for a long ass time.

"Stephen Thompson: Oh, definitely. I've got a muay Thai coach here. Even though my striking is a little different and my stance is different, it's good to know all aspects of the game and you've got a lot of guys who, their stand-up is muay Thai, which is a lot different than my style. Just the knees and elbows and the clinchwork, that's just an art in its own. I've got a muay Thai coach. We work in the clinch. We work knees, we work elbows, we work defense so it's different. Actually, I like it because I like to know all aspects of the MMA game.
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That's from over four years ago.

http://www.mmafighting.com/ufc/2012...ephen-thompson-karate-mma-kickboxing-mma-news
 
I would think some of these guys would have taken notes from the Joseph Valtellini/Raymond Daniels fight. He absolutely decimated Daniels's legs, and then began to brutalize him.

 
mangokush said:
Woodley's Athletic & Explosive kicks could the difference. Got the tko injury over Condit due those kicks.

Same fate may happen to Wonderboy just like he couldn't deal with the Athletic & Explosiveness of Raymond Daniels which caused his ACL injury, he may not be able to deal with the Athletic & Explosiveness of Woodley.
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Not saying Woodley dosnt kick like a mule but the takedown damaged the ACL and then landing on the opposite leg that was kicked finished it off.

Dude definately kicks hard though and it did totally spin Condit around.
 
Wonderboy is an mma fighter not just a karate fighter I'm sure he is well aware of leg kicks and can adapt his style to defend them. Hell he may throw a curve ball again a MT specialist and try to wrestle them who knows
 
TS could be right. Reminds me of the Machida hype albeit Wonderboy is a monster. If only there was a Barboza at WW to test him.. hell even Donald Cerrone stepping up could be epic
 
Fyreborn said:
I don't know about that.

I agree Muay Thai can play havoc with karate, but it's more skill beats skill, elite beats elite.

A great fighter can win with any style. Better fighters will tend to beat worse ones, regardless of style.

Plenty of MT fighters Machida could've beaten. Shogun just happened to not be one (not legitly anyway).

Most fans prefer watching MT and so do I, but it's more dominant over karate mainly due to karate lacking elite talents. Elite karate talents do exist though (Andy Hug) and they can beat MT guys.
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Yea I was gonna say Andy hug was a karate fighter who beat mt guys for a living.

~DaViD~
 
deweydeucalion said:
That is not the reason there is no low kicking in American Karate. It's the same reason there is no low strikes in fencing. In a real fight for your life are you going to leg kick a guy? No you are not, you will kick him in the head with boots on. The rule preserves the "Karate" concept of 1 strike ends the fight.
Cool av.
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No. It 100% is the reason. Look into the history instead of talking from your belief.
 
Wonderboy vs thiago alves that fought kos
 
fortheo said:
Someone else made this same exact thread before. Is this your second account?
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Well it is my second account but i didn't make the thread before. Was just reminded of the Machida/Shogun robbery in another thread, and forgot i wanted to post this. And yes Wonderboy has a MT coach but he's not invincible, the reason he's beating everyone is because he is so good at staying in his range. You can take that movement away from him with low kicks, it's undeniable. He might be able to overcome it, and hurt the opponent first regardless, but leg kicks are extremely effective against him.
 
YoungRonniecoleman said:
Well it is my second account but i didn't make the thread before. Was just reminded of the Machida/Shogun robbery in another thread, and forgot i wanted to post this. And yes Wonderboy has a MT coach but he's not invincible, the reason he's beating everyone is because he is so good at staying in his range. You can take that movement away from him with low kicks, it's undeniable. He might be able to overcome it, and hurt the opponent first regardless, but leg kicks are extremely effective against him.
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Côte tried a predominantly leg kick heavy game against him and landed a good amount in round one, but by round two wonderboy was either countering them with straights or sliding away from them. Hendricks tried leg kicking him too, but ate counters for his troubles. It would be interesting to see him against elite muay Thai guys, but there are none in his division.
 
YoungRonniecoleman said:
Seriously Wonderboy would get fucked by a good muay thai fighter. History has shown time and time again that Muay Thai counters karate. Infact, when the great karate fighters first started to seek out fight promotions to test their styles in real battles they came to the thai leagues. This is where they would all get completely dominated by low kicks and knees during their blitzes. Infact, the low kicking of their bladed stance was so bad that it spawned a whole new genre of "kickboxing" aka the above-the-waist tournaments. Back to Wonderboy, he actually fought his kickboxing career in these leagues, all the way until he entered MMA. In the UFC he has fought zero leg kick specialists. A total of 8 leg kicks has been even attempted against him in his full run, 6 of them landed. Im just here to tell you that the first man to pit his gloves up tight and hammer that leg will walk out with a win over Thompson. May it be Cerrone or Woodley(if he remembers he can chop trees with the leg kick) but it will happen. Once it does im reviving this thread that will only get "wonderboy es numbr wan" replies
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It would have to be a southpaw MT fighter for the outside leg kick to be effective. Not sure how many of those are the ww division.
 
deweydeucalion said:
That is not the reason there is no low kicking in American Karate. It's the same reason there is no low strikes in fencing. In a real fight for your life are you going to leg kick a guy? No you are not, you will kick him in the head with boots on. The rule preserves the "Karate" concept of 1 strike ends the fight.
Cool av.
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Any street fight is basically a fight for your life as its uncontrolled and theres no guarentee a guy will stop choking you after lights are out. So yeah, I've used and will always use leg kicks in fights as they f*ck people up because most average drunk lugheads have no idea how to counter and a couple well placed ones end it. Even if you only do limited damage they are part of an overall arsenal to set up different attacks
 
Its not as simple as muay thai> Karate. Wonderboy is a special kind of striker and it will take another highly skilled special athlete to take him out. Not just someone that good at muay thai
 
panzer723 said:
Andy Hug of Kyokushin Karate and Lyoto Machida of Shotokan Karate would disagree.
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Yeah leg kicks are a big part of kyokushin karate. For the TS to suggest leg kicks are some or of kryptonite for karate fighters is not really true.
 
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