Wonderboy is lucky WW has so few MT fighters

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Seriously Wonderboy would get fucked by a good muay thai fighter. History has shown time and time again that Muay Thai counters karate. Infact, when the great karate fighters first started to seek out fight promotions to test their styles in real battles they came to the thai leagues. This is where they would all get completely dominated by low kicks and knees during their blitzes. Infact, the low kicking of their bladed stance was so bad that it spawned a whole new genre of "kickboxing" aka the above-the-waist tournaments. Back to Wonderboy, he actually fought his kickboxing career in these leagues, all the way until he entered MMA. In the UFC he has fought zero leg kick specialists. A total of 8 leg kicks has been even attempted against him in his full run, 6 of them landed. Im just here to tell you that the first man to pit his gloves up tight and hammer that leg will walk out with a win over Thompson. May it be Cerrone or Woodley(if he remembers he can chop trees with the leg kick) but it will happen. Once it does im reviving this thread that will only get "wonderboy es numbr wan" replies
 
Unfortunately I don't think it's quite that simple. A fight with peak Alves certainly would have been interesting though.
 
There is a style to beat every style. What's your point?

DJ is lucky there isn't a style at FLW to beat him.
 
doesnt MT require a lot of clinching? I don't see you getting ahold of Wonder Boy like that. He's too distant and low stanced
 
Can you clarify what you mean by getting "fucked"

Do you mean backpack fucked or like Urijah Faber "You're going to fuck yourself up" or do you mean Uriah Hall from TUF "HOLY FUCK" or do you mean like how Mr. and Ms Tate Fuck?
 
I don't know about that.

I agree Muay Thai can play havoc with karate, but it's more skill beats skill, elite beats elite.

A great fighter can win with any style. Better fighters will tend to beat worse ones, regardless of style.

Plenty of MT fighters Machida could've beaten. Shogun just happened to not be one (not legitly anyway).

Most fans prefer watching MT and so do I, but it's more dominant over karate mainly due to karate lacking elite talents. Elite karate talents do exist though (Andy Hug) and they can beat MT guys.
 
Bro. You're dumb. Wonderboy would obviously prepare for such an attack if it was threatened.

#WonderboyBless
#Karate
 
Good thing for him Tyrone has none of those skills and he's going to mangle and embarrass him and take his belt.
 
elbowsandwiches said:
doesnt MT require a lot of clinching? I don't see you getting ahold of Wonder Boy like that. He's too distant and low stanced
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It doesent required any clinching. And Wonderboy will be a lot easier to get a hold of when he's limping around on one leg. If you watch his fight with Matt Brown, you will notice his movement slowed down significantly in the second round. Matt was holding him on the cage forcing him to push with his legs, and hitting the legs with small strikes. Wonderboy had almost nothing in them after round 1, his lead leg kicks were harmless at that point and he couldnt stay in the range he wants to. Whenever someone comes in and starts actually kicking his leg for real that will be much worse.
 
Paragraphs are your friend....

That being said, just because Shogun's Muay Thai beat Machida's doesn't mean everyone can replicate it. Shogun was an amazing fighter in his day.
 
13Seconds said:
There is a style to beat every style. What's your point?

DJ is lucky there isn't a style at FLW to beat him.
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Ian McCall should've beaten him. Though MM is improved now.
elbowsandwiches said:
doesnt MT require a lot of clinching? I don't see you getting ahold of Wonder Boy like that. He's too distant and low stanced
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That's why karate stances are said to be vulnerable to low kicks.
AceCooch said:
Can you clarify what you mean by getting "fucked"

Do you mean backpack fucked or like Urijah Faber "You're going to fuck yourself up" or do you mean Uriah Hall from TUF "HOLY FUCK" or do you mean like how Mr. and Ms Tate Fuck?
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What in the "fuck" is the only thing I can say to this bizarre post.
 
Fyreborn said:
I don't know about that.

I agree Muay Thai can play havoc with karate, but it's more skill beats skill, elite beats elite.

A great fighter can win with any style. Better fighters will tend to beat worse ones, regardless of style.

Plenty of MT fighters Machida could've beaten. Shogun just happened to not be one (not legitly anyway).

Most fans prefer watching MT and so do I, but it's more dominant over karate mainly due to karate lacking elite talents. Elite karate talents do exist though (Andy Hug) and they can beat MT guys.
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Although Don Wilson wasn't a karate specialist like Hug, he has/had a similar stance to guys like Thompson and Daniels. And he whipped this one Muay Thai guy at his own game for like seven rounds straight, some guy called Fanta. You can look it up, Don himself even did a commentary of the fight on his YouTube channel.
 
umm alves is a WW, shame he is not the same anymore. but styles makes fights and i think wonderboy beats alves or any MT guy in WW. but who knows.
 
Woodley's Athletic & Explosive kicks could the difference. Got the tko injury over Condit due those kicks.

Same fate may happen to Wonderboy just like he couldn't deal with the Athletic & Explosiveness of Raymond Daniels which caused his ACL injury, he may not be able to deal with the Athletic & Explosiveness of Woodley.
 
YoungRonniecoleman said:
He prepared for it by fighting 57 kickboxing fights and making sure none of them allowed leg kixks. #WonderboyBless
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Lol. Go ahead and ignore the context of what I said while making up some BS about Thompson. Go nuthug Thai fighters somewhere else and quit being jealous of Karate's success and dominace in mma.

On second thought, I was a bit to harsh with my wording. Sorry about that.
 
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ReasonableMMAFan said:
Although Don Wilson wasn't a karate specialist like Hug, he has/had a similar stance to guys like Thompson and Daniels. And he whipped this one Muay Thai guy at his own game for like seven rounds straight, some guy called Fanta. You can look it up, Don himself even did a commentary of the fight on his YouTube channel.
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Thompson doesent have one stance, he uses 3 different stances depending on the range he is in, all 3 allowing for different attacks. Its actually a super cool system imo, but also one exploitable since you know he wont be punching in one stance and know he wont be kicking in another etc. - anyway you're both right that there's more to it than just styles and a karate guy could beat a MT fighter. But Wonderboy spending his whole pre-MMA career avoiding low kicks, and only 8 total leg kicks being attempted against him in all his UFC fights is the reason i think the first guy to really kick his leg will beat him, just like the first guy that clinched him and took him down beat him
 
He fights very long and switches stances which can make leg kicks harder to land. Im a huge fan of the leg kick. He also has great hands, so while one is attempting a leg kick they get countered with stiff punches. I would like to see him and Cerrone fight. One of my favorite leg kickers.
 
mangokush said:
Woodley's Athletic & Explosive kicks could the difference. Got the tko injury over Condit due those kicks.

Same fate may happen to Wonderboy just like he couldn't deal with the Athletic & Explosiveness of Raymond Daniels which caused his ACL injury, he may not be able to deal with the Athletic & Explosiveness of Woodley.
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Condit got hurt because of the takedown. I am surprised how many think it was the kick.

Why did you think it was the kicks? Did you see the fight?
ReasonableMMAFan said:
Lol. Go ahead and ignore the context of what I said while making up some BS about Thompson. Go nuthug Thai fighters somewhere else and quit being jealous of Karate's success and dominace in mma.
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Dominance? MT fighters are a dime a dozen in MMA. It's one of the four basic arts most train - wrestling, boxing, MT, BJJ.

Top karate fighters can beat any style. But I think MT will always be more popular for MMA than other kickboxing styles.
 
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