Social Will the government shutdown tomorrow?

[Loiosh]

 

[N13]

Rolling back cuts to Medicaid and extending ACA subsidies are the main things they talk about. But, it’s also about checking the executive power of “pocket rescission” granted by scotus. If the executive branch can change budgets on their own regardless of what congress does, what’s the point? Republicans aren’t interested in negotiating, and democrats aren’t backing down (although, in the end they’ll cave like bitches I reckon).
Wrecking the economy isn’t a goal, the economy already sucks by most metrics. And anyway you can’t pin that on the dems when we have job losses reported every month and now Trump is celebrating the shutdown because he gets to fire some more people. A president celebrating American citizens losing jobs because he thinks it will hurt his political enemies is pretty fucking disgusting, dude.

I have a funny feeling that Trump is following Sun Tsu: don't interfere with your adversary while they are in the process of destroying themselves.

 

[calavera2]

I have a funny feeling that Trump is following Sun Tsu: don't interfere with your adversary while they are in the process of destroying themselves.

Damn, you trumpers are dumb as shit...you may actually think trump reads...lol

 

[N13]

Damn, you trumpers are dumb as shit...you may actually think trump reads...lol

@Crazy Source

Let's look at the theoretical negotiations.

Rs: what do you want?
Ds: we want the obamacare subsidies to continue for 4 years.
Rs: And what are you willing to give us in exchange for that?
Ds : We'll keep the government open for another 7 weeks.
Rs: is there anything else that you want?
Ds: yes, and it costs over $1 Trillion.
Rs: and what are you willing to give us in exchange for that?
Ds: nothing. We already agreed to open the government for 7 weeks.
Rs: what are you going to do in7 weeks?
Ds: shut it down again so we can get even more.

Moral of the story: you need to make an offer that has a greater than 0% chance of being accepted.

Maybe you and your Democrat friends should read the Art of the Deal written by Trump.

 

[N13]

16 minutes of pure gold.

 

[ShadowRun]

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Absolute MAGA clowns. If you believe Medicaid and Medicare were going to illegal aliens, then you are illiterate. It's right there in the law that undocumented immigrants cannot get Medicare or Medicaid.

This is just a blatantly racist MAGA circle jerk. Unbelievable that the moderators allow this blatant hate and misinformation to go on.

First, Democrats want to give free healthcare to illegals -


Second, in California it was signed into law to provide free healthcare to illegals.


Third, Special Provisions were given to Medicaid & Medicare to supply free healthcare to illegals for years... And was removed by Trump's 'Big Beautiful Bill's budget.

Fourth, the entirety of the reason why Democrats are shutting down the government is for those provisions to be added back in.
They deny this, of course, but not specified exactly what they're shutting the government down for.

Fifth, your 'It's right there in the law that undocumented immigrants cannot get Medicare or Medicaid'....

Your argument relies on Democrats actually giving a shit about the law, even when it's not in their favor.
Given the fact they've allowed tens of millions of illegals to flow over our border, fight any attempt to remove them, are 1000% against building stronger border wall or more effective means to enforce immigration laws... Are all proof they don't give a shit about laws.

And that's just that one subject.
You don't want to discuss the very long and detailed history of Democrat Lawlessness & Violence.

 

[Croaker]

Why are Democrats so fucking stupid? I genuinely don't understand the hold out because now Trump is going to get damn near everything he wants for the foreseeable future. They already gave him what he wanted, and now they're gonna hold out hoping people just don't like him anymore? Alright, cool. He isn't getting a 3rd term so if you really want to fight him you have to read "The Art of the Deal" and try do something in the next bill lmao

This shutdown might legitimately put the Democratic party back even further than they already are.

 

[PEB]

16 minutes of pure gold.

Republicans are the party of Bull Sh$t where is the 47 trillion that trump has found?, where is the 1.99 per gallon gas prices, How can I too add 7 billion to my net worth in 8 months on meme coin, what happened to all the cats and dogs being eaten?, where is all this free speech the President keeps talking about? on and on and on keep with the not funny meme stuff. Republican party is the clown circus.

 

[Crazy Source]

Why are Democrats so fucking stupid? I genuinely don't understand the hold out because now Trump is going to get damn near everything he wants for the foreseeable future. They already gave him what he wanted, and now they're gonna hold out hoping people just don't like him anymore? Alright, cool. He isn't getting a 3rd term so if you really want to fight him you have to read "The Art of the Deal" and try do something in the next bill lmao

This shutdown might legitimately put the Democratic party back even further than they already are.

Trump is going to do what he wants to do regardless. The DEMs are holding strong because they want the ACA subsidies continued. That keeps people's health insurance cheaper. You are on the wrong side of this.

 

[b34stmode]

I have a funny feeling that Trump is following Sun Tsu: don't interfere with your adversary while they are in the process of destroying themselves.

How are Democrats in the process of destroying themselves? Go on social Media, all the big right wing politicians/influencers are blatantly lying about Democrats wanting millions of illegals on healthcare. I mean they just will not stop talking about it, when the reality is Republicans are cutting ACA subsidies which is going to sky rocket healthcare premiums for MILLIONS of Americans. This is going to fall directly on Trumps/Republicans lap. They aren't going to be able to blame illegals for this one.

Also thousands of people losing their jobs while Trump is making sombrero memes isn't a good look, and was never that funny in the first place. If Democrats can stick to their guns, they are going to come out looking way better than Republicans on this.

 

[N13]

Republicans are the party of Bull Sh$t where is the 47 trillion that trump has found?, where is the 1.99 per gallon gas prices, How can I too add 7 billion to my net worth in 8 months on meme coin, what happened to all the cats and dogs being eaten?, where is all this free speech the President keeps talking about? on and on and on keep with the not funny meme stuff. Republican party is the clown circus.

Location: Uranus

Trump's memes are trolling, but it's not even close to people .calling him a nazi, hitler and a fascist.

 

[N13]

How are Democrats in the process of destroying themselves? Go on social Media, all the big right wing politicians/influencers are blatantly lying about Democrats wanting millions of illegals on healthcare. I mean they just will not stop talking about it, when the reality is Republicans are cutting ACA subsidies which is going to sky rocket healthcare premiums for MILLIONS of Americans. This is going to fall directly on Trumps/Republicans lap. They aren't going to be able to blame illegals for this one.

Also thousands of people losing their jobs while Trump is making sombrero memes isn't a good look, and was never that funny in the first place. If Democrats can stick to their guns, they are going to come out looking way better than Republicans on this.

You live in an alternative reality.

 

[HereticBD]

How are Democrats in the process of destroying themselves? Go on social Media, all the big right wing politicians/influencers are blatantly lying about Democrats wanting millions of illegals on healthcare. I mean they just will not stop talking about it, when the reality is Republicans are cutting ACA subsidies which is going to sky rocket healthcare premiums for MILLIONS of Americans. This is going to fall directly on Trumps/Republicans lap. They aren't going to be able to blame illegals for this one.

Is that what they're saying on Reddit and Bluesky?

 

[heloder]

How are Democrats in the process of destroying themselves? Go on social Media, all the big right wing politicians/influencers are blatantly lying about Democrats wanting millions of illegals on healthcare. I mean they just will not stop talking about it, when the reality is Republicans are cutting ACA subsidies which is going to sky rocket healthcare premiums for MILLIONS of Americans. This is going to fall directly on Trumps/Republicans lap. They aren't going to be able to blame illegals for this one.

Also thousands of people losing their jobs while Trump is making sombrero memes isn't a good look, and was never that funny in the first place. If Democrats can stick to their guns, they are going to come out looking way better than Republicans on this.

It's a really interesting situation, isn't it? MAGA have trapped themselves here. They want to do all this heinous Project 2025 shit, but they want to somehow pin the blame on the Democrats for doing so, because they know it's going to be a catastrophe. So now they're simultaneously trying to sell it as a great thing, while also hedging their bets by saying they're having their hands forced.

 

[Crazy Source]

It's a really interesting situation, isn't it? MAGA have trapped themselves here. They want to do all this heinous Project 2025 shit, but they want to somehow pin the blame on the Democrats for doing so, because they know it's going to be a catastrophe. So now they're simultaneously trying to sell it as a great thing, while also hedging their bets by saying they're having their hands forced.

And this all ties into Johnson not letting a duly elected new House member to be sworn it. Adelita Grijalva won by a landslide, and Johnson is refusing to swear her in. Why? Because the House Republicans are protecting philes. So they shut the gov't down because they won't allow the ACA subsidies to continue and they protect people that traffic children. Not a good look.

 

[heloder]

And this all ties into Johnson not letting a duly elected new House member to be sworn it. Adelita Grijalva won by a landslide, and Johnson is refusing to swear her in. Why? Because the House Republicans are protecting philes. So they shut the gov't down because they won't allow the ACA subsidies to continue and they protect people that traffic children. Not a good look.

Imagine how insanely damaging the Epstein files must be to Trump and his administration for them to go to these lengths to keep them under cover. They are literally subverting the democracy and Constitution of the United States of America just to stop Congress from being able to vote on releasing the files. It's beyond the pale.

 

[PEB]

Location: Uranus

Trump's memes are trolling, but it's not even close to people .calling him a nazi, hitler and a fascist.

In the comments I made show me where I called him anything you just said? Classic Trump level deflection truth hurts.

 

[Prefect]

It will shutdown because the alternative is that they have to swear in the politician from Arizona, who would be the deciding vote to release the Epstein Files on the house floor. Some of you are dumber than a box of rocks for not seeing through how why Mike Connelly shutdown the session earlier this year, his bullshit response of Trump being an informant on Epstein, and why they have continued to delay swearing in an elected representative from Arizona. Whatever is out there is deep and darker than just Trump as I believe the party would be ok with dumping Trump and continuing with Vance. It has to be shit that is an existential threat to the GOP.

 

[HereticBD]

It will shutdown because the alternative is that they have to swear in the politician from Arizona, who would be the deciding vote to release the Epstein Files on the house floor. Some of you are dumber than a box of rocks for not seeing through how why Mike Connelly shutdown the session earlier this year, his bullshit response of Trump being an informant on Epstein, and why they have continued to delay swearing in an elected representative from Arizona. Whatever is out there is deep and darker than just Trump as I believe the party would be ok with dumping Trump and continuing with Vance. It has to be shit that is an existential threat to the GOP.

They already passed the bill in the House. This is Senate Democrats shutting the government down to look cool to a bunch septum pierced fairies who threw a shit fit over them not shutting the government down last time, and has Chuck Schumer shitting himself over potentially losing his spot to AOC.

But, sure, something, something Epstein.

You guys are so utterly hopeless.