Will Paddy be given the O'malley route?

[Deleted member 585708]

Maybe because O'Malley has been in the UFC for over 4 years and hasn't even fought, much less beaten a ranked opponent? I'd say "right away" passed a long time ago for him.

He has fought a ranked opponent, Paiva.

Like I pointed out, after 6 fights and 4 years, Islam had never fought a ranked opponent, and still didn't for some time after that.

But the UFC sometimes role with a 'nobody wants to fight them' narrative which they didn't with Sean.

That's the only difference.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Lets call it the only legit fighter he has fought then...The rest is cans, even Paiva

So let's say he fought Frankie and ko'd him. There would be posts in this thread that he beat another washed guy like Wineland.

Paiva is no can, but he must be because it suits the confirmation bias so many people have.

You've all been played.

 

[Bork Neslar]

Maybe.

 

[MCS]

Yes, that's the smartest move for them. Wins are easy to hype, no matter the competition. UFC's roster is also so big that the names you beat are less important than just wins.

But, he's not as good as O'Malley. I view Sean as a top talent who beats outmatched competition. The problem comes with that, which is difficult to avoid even with favorable matchmaking.

 

[Otto!]

Paddy should fight Erik Silva. Winner will achieve greatness.

 

[jk7707]

He has fought a ranked opponent, Paiva.

Like I pointed out, after 6 fights and 4 years, Islam had never fought a ranked opponent, and still didn't for some time after that.

But the UFC sometimes role with a 'nobody wants to fight them' narrative which they didn't with Sean.

That's the only difference.

Bullshit. When was Paiva ever ranked? Nor should he have been. Dude is a flyweight.

Rankings right before their fight: https://www.mma-stats.com/rankings/2021-12-06

There were tons of fighters who wanted to jump in as a short notice replacement in his last fight too. Who did he choose? A green hair punching bag a weight class smaller. Islam is the only one of your examples that's even close. And none of those other fighters have literally admitted they don't want to fight ranked opponents.

He deserves all the shit he gets until he proves himself against someone decent.

 

[ThePimblettEra]

But the UFC sometimes role with a 'nobody wants to fight them' narrative which they didn't with Sean.

Love that narrative.
Hilarious when the UFC in general (including the bald goof), the fighter himself AND the fighter's fanbase are all spewing out the "NOBODY WILL FIGHT HIM!!" line, while numerous other fighters are ACTIVELY calling the guy out at the same time.

Seems to be a fairly modern tactic that seems to be working out well with regards to hyping up these cats.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Bullshit. When was Paiva ever ranked? Nor should he have been. Dude is a flyweight.

Rankings right before their fight: https://www.mma-stats.com/rankings/2021-12-06

There were tons of fighters who wanted to jump in as a short notice replacement in his last fight too. Who did he choose? A green hair punching bag a weight class smaller. Islam is the only one of your examples that's even close. And none of those other fighters have literally admitted they don't want to fight ranked opponents.

He deserves all the shit he gets until he proves himself against someone decent.

Oh, look. Raulian Paiva was a ranked bantamweight.

He got displaced by Song Yadong a couple weeks out from their fight.

So there's your answer to "when was Paiva ever ranked".

 

[Darbo]

Who they supposed to give him??? Paddy isn’t that good that match him up with competition that isn’t that good.

It’s same thing they do with any prelim fighter with a low ceiling.

Mate, I'm looking at your tag while reading your post...nah.

 

[jeff7b9]

It isn't the end of the world if the UFC has learned to do a better job building up prospects.

They have fucked up a few times throwing guys with a lot of potential in over their heads too quickly.

It doesn't need to go the way of ridiculous record padding in boxing, but there is a happy medium in there somewhere.

And the flip side is the "spoonfed" opponents are receiving an opportunity to take a big amount of hype from beating the "protected" rising star.

There are positives to be gained from this approach if done right.

 

[Brettco]

Be fed unranked cans and washed up fighters to pad his record. Seems like that's the way to go now, I think the UFC has learned their lesson with Darren Till and some other prospects, Paddy is not a Conor or Khamzat but he's still young and they'll probably protect him and give him some easy fights to build him up.
The bad thing about it is that he has looked less promising than O'malley and is in a tougher division.

Paddy is lucky he didn't get knocked out.

 

[Royce's Gi]

I'M A FAN OF THE BADDY


PADDY "PUDPAD NOY" O'MALLEY​

 

[scoobster]

The O'Malley route is lame. Paddy has bigger balls.

yeah but isn't he refusing big name fights? I'm sure i read it hear on or the UG....................................so it must be true

 

[jk7707]

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Oh, look. Raulian Paiva was a ranked bantamweight.

He got displaced by Song Yadong a couple weeks out from their fight.

So there's your answer to "when was Paiva ever ranked".

So he wasn't ranked when they fought. Thanks for admitting you're wrong.

 

[xhaydenx]

Other than Suga fighting Chito, Paddy's probably already tougher opponents than Suga already.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

So he wasn't ranked when they fought. Thanks for admitting you're wrong.

Who cares. He was ranked when it was booked. He accepted a ranked opponent.

Rankings change all the time. You asked if he was ever ranked at bantamweight. Yes he was. The narrative of never accepting fights with ranked opposition is false.

 

[richardjohnson]

'The O'Malley Route'?

Why isn't it the Khabib route? Or the Islam Makhachev route? The Gregor Gillespie route? The Giga Chikadze route? The Merab Dvalishvili route?

In the deepest divisions there's zero reason to throw an up-and-comer at the ranked fighters right away, so this supposed 'route' is much better travelled than jumping lightyears at a time up the rankings.

The only reason this is considered unique to Sean O'Malley is because Sean has caught your imagination and he's living your head.

I would say the main difference between O'Malley and the guys you listed is the marketing push they receive/received from the UFC. They market O'Malley as some sort of future champion while he beats up on cans. The only one on your list who received more promotion was Khabib but that was only when he was champion and had beaten the UFC's biggest star.

 

[jk7707]

Who cares. He was ranked when it was booked. He accepted a ranked opponent.

Rankings change all the time. You asked if he was ever ranked at bantamweight. Yes he was. The narrative of never accepting fights with ranked opposition is false.

The guy wasn't ranked when they fought. Saying he never fought a ranked opponent is absolutely true. The fact that you're having to so desperately change what fighting a "ranked" opponent means to defend him is pretty telling about his level of competition.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

The guy wasn't ranked when they fought. Saying he never fought a ranked opponent is absolutely true. The fact that you're having to so desperately change what fighting a "ranked" opponent means to defend him is pretty telling about his level of competition.

All I'm saying is Paiva clearly was no can and is a decent level of opposition.

Nobody is good enough once they lose to Sean, that's the nonsense narrative. Lots of fighters have similar runs but nobody complains.

The UFC have set this narrative because it is subversive. People want to see him lose, and so are emotionally involved in his fights. But in reality, his run is nothing special. The opposition hasn't been super weak, his run of unranked opposition hasn't been unusually long, they haven't intentionally booked him against cans, BUT he did get one piss easy fight against Moutinho. But that's it.

The rest is just smoke and mirrors and marketing and people are buying into it big time by criticising Sean's run constantly.

 

[hunt0]

Nobody is good enough once they lose to Sean, that's the nonsense narrative.

lol if you couldn't see that moutinho and almeida were clearly sacrificial lambs way before the fight happened you're delusional