Why Spironolactone?

[Obsidian Fracture]

If she had a legit medical reason to seek an exemption she should have at least attempted to get one. She got caught cheating. AGAIN. No two ways around it.

Getting caught like this is the final nail in the coffin for anyone ever taking her seriously again.

 

[campbecc]

I don't know if this really was what she failed on, but IF this is the case, here's a few things for y'all to mull over.

IF you wanted to take a diuretic as a masking agent, you wouldn't pick Spironolactone since it's urine diluting properties are quite week relative to other readily available agents.

WIthout having access to her chart, (A full picture of Cyborg's overall medical condition) it is impossible to know whether or not her story rings true.
HOWEVER, I can tell you that Aldactone (spironolactone) is used in a couple of very particular instances,

1) Isolated Systolic Hypertension..... the high number in your blood pressure reading is significantly elevated while having a normal diastolic pressure ( the lower number) eg) 160/80 vs normal which would be around 120/80.
2) Hypokalemia---helps maintain potassium balance
3) Neprhotic Syndrome unresponsive to glucocorticoids or other diuretics
4) Liver disease with ascites.

It is ABSOLUTELY within the realm of possibility that ones kidneys might shut down partially or completely in response to dramatic weight cutting. It's actually the same mechanism that has killed so many wrestlers over the years from dramatic cuts.

Anybody recall how much fucking weight she cut in the week leading up to her last fight?

Anywho, I appreciate that most on this site will just continue their mindless flaming or white knighting without any actual consideration, but, I am also sure there are a few that might appreciate so here you are.

I'm an MD; I have no idea what this is in response to. But aldactone is very very common drug in my experience,

Edit: Sorry Aldactone and spironolactone are the same thing

 

[Aforo88]

But it really is that simple. Everyone on this earth knows the deal with USADA-that you pretty much can't even take some cold medicines. There is no reason for anyone to think they don't have to tell USADA everything about what they are putting in their bodies. She broke the rules. Yes, it is her right to apply for the TUE after the fact, but not doing it in the first place is highly suspicious. Frankly we all know why she didn't and to say it was legit is putting your head in the sand. If it was legit (for medical reason) don't hide it. She did-pretty much the end of all claim to innocence. She is not surrounded by incompetent doctors and staff. They know exactly what they are doing. They just got caught this time. Like I said...virtually everyone in the world knows USADA is tough so no excuse whatsoever to assume anything if you are an athlete and especially a doctor that has supposedly worked with olympic athletes.

Now that USADA have researched Cyborgs failed drug test and the circumstances surrounding it, whats you're take on USADA and Cyborg? Would you still suggest that Cyborg had no medical reason to take the drugs? Is USADA corrupt by approving her retroactive exemption? Did Cyborg break the rules by applying for the exemption after the fact?
Not trying to be a jack ass, just trying to continue a healthy conversation

 

[ClosetVitorFan]

Trannys and women who heavily juiced wanting to reverse the manly side effects take it to be more feminine. That's what it's mostly used for. But it aint a PED. Period

 

[Pacemaker Joe]

Now that USADA have researched Cyborgs failed drug test and the circumstances surrounding it, whats you're take on USADA and Cyborg? Would you still suggest that Cyborg had no medical reason to take the drugs? Is USADA corrupt by approving her retroactive exemption? Did Cyborg break the rules by applying for the exemption after the fact?
Not trying to be a jack ass, just trying to continue a healthy conversation

What she did is within the rules, but still raises a lot of questions. From the UFC/USADA TUE policy:

3. Policy for UFC Athletes USADA will process TUE applications for UFC Athletes in accordance with this UFC TUE Policy.

A UFC Athlete may apply to USADA for a TUE for any Prohibited Substance at any time; however, such applications should be complete and received by USADA in accordance with the following timeline:

a. At least twenty-one (21) days in advance of the Athletes intended Use of the prohibited medication when the Athlete is not scheduled to participate in a Bout; or

b. At least ninety (90) days in advance of the Athlete’s intended Use when the Athlete is scheduled to participate in any Bout more than ninety (90) days in the future; or

c. As soon as practicable when the Athlete is scheduled to participate in a Bout with less than ninety (90) days advance notice.

USADA will consider late filed or applications for retroactive TUEs; however, the Athlete does so at his or her own risk as USADA makes no guarantee regarding the processing of a TUE under such circumstances. Furthermore, in such instances, the Athlete may be charged up to the full cost for processing the TUE application where such filing, in the determination of USADA, is not attributed to factors outside the Athlete’s control.

USADA will make best efforts to expedite late filed TUE requests in advance of the Athlete’s intended Use based on exceptional circumstances, but makes no guarantees regarding the processing of TUE applications under that timeframe.

Furthermore, applications for retroactive TUEs will only be considered where the Use of the Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method is medically justified. Athletes are cautioned that the Use of a Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method without prior TUE approval is at their own risk and that the only way to ensure such Use will not result in an anti-doping policy violation is by obtaining a TUE prior to the Use of any such substance or method.

From the press release that she's not being sanctioned:

In the case of Justino, the application for a TUE was granted because the athlete had an unequivocally diagnosed chronic medical condition for which the use of Spironolactone is the appropriate standard of care. Further, it was determined that the athlete and her medical team pursued and exhausted all non-prohibited alternatives and that the low dose of the medication is consistent with best medical practice to treat her condition and would return the athlete to a normal state of health without providing a performance-enhancing benefit.

They ignored all the recommendations for applying for a TUE, and seem to have decided that they'd only risk it if they got caught.

 

[Eater of Souls]

Now that USADA have researched Cyborgs failed drug test and the circumstances surrounding it, whats you're take on USADA and Cyborg? Would you still suggest that Cyborg had no medical reason to take the drugs? Is USADA corrupt by approving her retroactive exemption? Did Cyborg break the rules by applying for the exemption after the fact?
Not trying to be a jack ass, just trying to continue a healthy conversation

The USASA has a long history of inconsistency, failing to follow its own regulation and by-laws, and stripping athletes of their medals and accusing them of guilt even when said athletes never failed a test. So this sort of ruling is not surprising, considering they pretty much do whatever they want.

Particularly Tygart.

 

[Hardkore]

If Cyborg was indeed cheating then the backlash and vitriol will most likely be insurmountable. However, if it is disclosed she has a legitimate medical condition and that she needed the medication, no one from this board will make an apology.

 

[Aforo88]

The USASA has a long history of inconsistency, failing to follow its own regulation and by-laws, and stripping athletes of their medals and accusing them of guilt even when said athletes never failed a test. So this sort of ruling is not surprising, considering they pretty much do whatever they want.

Particularly Tygart.

In this case USADA didnt fail their own regulations. Retro active TUE under the right circumstanses is a part of their regulation. I don know what experience fans and sherdoggers have with putting youre body through extreme stress over a period of time, but its most likley to fuck you up long term with an unbalanced endocrine system. There was nothing wierd from a scientific point of view that she was in need of treatment.

 

[nhbfan8080]

The USASA has a long history of inconsistency, failing to follow its own regulation and by-laws, and stripping athletes of their medals and accusing them of guilt even when said athletes never failed a test. So this sort of ruling is not surprising, considering they pretty much do whatever they want.

Particularly Tygart.

When did they strip athletes of medals when "said athletes never failed a test"? Are you refering to Lance Armstrong?