Why doesnt Jon Jones exit USADA's testing pool while he's out bulking up for HW

[HeffDoesWant]

i presume you don't deal with auditors......

sure there are some rogue cases.....

but suggesting that just because they are paid means they by definition take orders from the payor is simply false.

Not really, but a have to rely on their work

Just like Moodys or Standard & Poors......

While I agree they are bound by rules on what they can can't do, but one of the most accurate quotes I know is "show me the incentive and I'll show you the outcome" . They work with the client as much as possible to ensure their future funding.

 

[HeffDoesWant]

so announce they ignored their actual policy for a star fighter and gave preferential treatment to ease the fallout? that's much better? lol......

What policy?

The one quoted earlier which said they don't announce it till the case is finished?

 

[HeffDoesWant]

What they are saying is that he was flagged for a violation, and is tangling up the process with constant appeals, so he isn't technically suspended, just delaying the announcement of the suspension until the amount of time he will receive has passed. They won't suspend him after all of the appeals starting at the end, they will give him retroactive credit from the time of the test he was flagged for.

Not saying I think this is the case, but that is the argument, which is entirely possible as far as I can tell.

This.

 

[kflo]

I don't think there is any special payments, jones/ufc are simply drawing out the case for as long as possible so that any suspension will be effectively served by the time its announced.

As a prolific offender he is looking at a long suspension.

Maybe Sherdoggers can believe he is an innocent guy who is just unlucky to repeatedly get tainted supplements more than any other fighter and unlucky to be the first guy whose tainted supplements still show up years later, (even when everyone else is on drugs apparently), but I am no such Sherdogger.

no, you're the sherdogger who thinks fighters can drag out a suspension hearing for years and that his 3rd suspension would only be a 2 year suspension and he'd simply come out of it into a title fight. you're that sherdogger.

 

[kflo]

Not really, but a have to rely on their work

Just like Moodys or Standard & Poors......

While I agree they are bound by rules on what they can can't do, but one of the most accurate quotes I know is "show me the incentive and I'll show you the outcome" . They work with the client as much as possible to ensure their future funding.

usada had zero incentive to compromise their reputation for jon jones. on top of it, they are a non-profit. they are just salaried employees with limited surplus. they aren't a multi billion dollar non-profit like fifa paying out millions.

 

[kflo]

What policy?

The one quoted earlier which said they don't announce it till the case is finished?

again, this policy has been in effect since 2018. show me one case that took even 6 months to be announced......

 

[mjfan23]

so does everyone else.......

Stop this BS please!

You have been at it for years and have never been able to identify others on it.

UFC has what 100 events an year these days? Bring me a dozen test results where USADA said it’s ok there are traces of Steroid X in him but it must be athlete X is pulsing off past use of steriod X.

 

[AB234]

He's probably serving a suspension on the down-low. If that's the case, then he wouldn't be allowed to exit the testing pool.

 

[fractal]

This is a crazy theory but bear with me.

Hes in the pool because he left LHW and intends to fight HW in the near future?

It's crazy and wild like those anti vax theories, but it may be the case here.

It's been "near future" since 2017.

 

[fractal]

Dumbass would be the first guy to somehow pop positive without even being in the testing pool

As stupid as that sounds, if someone can do it, it's Jon.

 

[Shaddows]

Just seems like a pointless hassle having people show up at your door to collect samples for no reason. Why not just exit USADA's testing pool and re-enter when the hits the all natty 265 lbs desired weight?

because then haters will claim he cycled to get back into the pool.
Now they can't claim that since he is still getting tested.

 

[kflo]

Stop this BS please!

You have been at it for years and have never been able to identify others on it.

UFC has what 100 events an year these days? Bring me a dozen test results where USADA said it’s ok there are traces of Steroid X in him but it must be athlete X is pulsing off past use of steriod X.

why are you lying? i've repeatedly given names. any time asked i've given actual names. AND quoted the usada policy that states the threshold limit. it's literally on the website.

Grant Dawson, Muslim Salikov, Stephanie Egger, Ryan Benoit, Roman Dolidze. there are some names for you.

https://ufc.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/UFC-Prohibited-List.pdf
the concentration limits for dhcmt are literally on the first page bullet 1.

instead of just calling bs why don't you educate yourself. i'm not here to lie.

 

[Luvhawky]

Yikes. You couldn't be more wrong.

UFC: USADA cases now won't be announced until after they're resolved

"Moving forward, the promotion will no longer announce potential anti-doping violations committed by fighters – until their cases are resolved."


Speaking of "fucking stupid"...

Does what you posted mean that once a sentence is resolved it will be disclosed? If he has been suspended, is that resolved? Or is it considered resolved once the suspension is up? Either way it sounds like we get to know have some triggering event.

 

[Luvhawky]

that's like saying EY or pwc takes orders from their clients......

lol at rumors. rumors posted by morons on sherdog......

I totally agree with all your posts so far including this one, but I have to be a dick and mentino Arthur Anderson. Just because you used EY and PWC as a metaphor.

 

[kflo]

I totally agree with all your posts so far including this one, but I have to be a dick and mentino Arthur Anderson. Just because you used EY and PWC as a metaphor.

wasn't really worth it now, was it?

 

[Luvhawky]

wasn't really worth it now, was it?

I mean, the firm went under, but basically everyone just went to go work for EY...Enron got fucked for sure.

 

[kflo]

I mean, the firm went under, but basically everyone just went to go work for EY...Enron got fucked for sure.

not everyone came out unscathed and the partners did lose alot of money. some lost their careers. but yeah, most of the work just moved to the other firms with the people. they certainly would have been better off being better behaved and controlled.

 

[NoSmilez]

Leaving the pool delays the fight. In case they offer him big money to perform.

 

[HeffDoesWant]

no, you're the sherdogger who thinks fighters can drag out a suspension hearing for years and that his 3rd suspension would only be a 2 year suspension and he'd simply come out of it into a title fight. you're that sherdogger.

Yes,I do think he can drag it out for years.
Surely you agree he is no hurry to get his name dragged through the mud again.



No idea where you got idea it would be a short suspension from. QUOTE?

 

[icemun]

Ten years of saying he was going to go up to heavyweight and never did.
You're right, so confusing

I guess when you dont make long term plans in life-

It can confusing and frustrating to hear successful people express them.