Why does Nintendo suck now?

cant believe this thread has gone 15 deep. i'm sure all the anti nintendo talking points have been covered by now.
 
I don't think Nintendo sucks, especially not now. I'm looking forward to buying a Wii-U soon. Hell it'd be my first gaming console since the Dreamcast. I think alot of older gamers are upset that Nintendo isn't going head to head with Sony and MS and feel betrayed by their decision as a business to remain in business and not go the wayside hardware wise like Sega, Atari, etc. There's no way a company like Nintendo can sustain losses on the hardware side like Sony and MS can.
 
snes friggin ruled. Some of those games I still prefer to the fancy pants stuff of today. Super Metroid would probably be in my top 3. Chrono Trigger would be way up there too.
 
Back in the day Nintendo made awesome hard- and software. Now they
 
Times change, even if you offer the same level of product, it doesn't always work. PS2 was a huge success, PS3 pretty much follow the same formula, offering a superior machine with cutting edge optical drive that double as an entertainment system rather than just a game console, but it did not have the same popularity as its predecessor.
 
idk ninja gaiden razors edge for the wii-u looks pretty sweet


 
Nintendo doesn't suck, their third party software does, but their exclusive lineup is still pretty descent.

Strictly speaking of hardware, sure they seem to be lagging behind, but it's only because the hardware is designed to support software that's geared towards family-oriented games. Which means, not requiring the horse power the 360 or the PS3 has. However, now that the WiiU has the graphics processing power, I'm intrigued to see what IP's they're going to bring to the table.
 
Conclusion: Just another console wars thread.
 
Plutoburn said:
Times change, even if you offer the same level of product, it doesn't always work. PS2 was a huge success, PS3 pretty much follow the same formula, offering a superior machine with cutting edge optical drive that double as an entertainment system rather than just a game console, but it did not have the same popularity as its predecessor.
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The PS3 is still a very popular console though. Yea, it hasn't sold 150 million consoles like the PS2 did but it's still sold around 71 Million worldwide i believe which is even slightly more than the 360. It will probably hit around the 90-100 mil area by the end of it's life and i'd say that is damn good.

I will agree though that it wasn't as popular during the beginning. It's funny because the PS3 was considered a failure after the first year or so by a lot of people, but has caught one a lot considering it's slightly surpassed the 360 in worldwide sales. I think the reason it didn't sell well at first and took awhile to catch on was because of several things.

Number one was the original price, which was more than the 360 and just too much for most people to spend on a console. Two, the HD-DVD and Blu-Ray format war which was taking place for awhile after the console was released. A lot of people thought HD-DVD would win the format war (myself included. I actually bought a toshiba HD-A3 HD-DVD Player thinking it would definitely win) which would of been a hard hit for Sony to take, but once Blu-Ray won and people knew it was here to stay they were more comfortable with buying a system with Blu-Ray support. The 3rd and final reason is because of the exclusive titles during the first year or two of it's life. It's funny because now i look at the PS3 and i think "wow, tons of great exclusive titles" which is one of the biggest things i like about the PS3, but for the first few years the system lacked a lot of solid exclusive titles and didn't appeal to a lot of gamers because of that (myself included which is the main reason why i didn't purchase a PS3 until atleast 2.5 to 3 years after launch).

I'm interested to see how Sony does in the next generation. I think they have learned not to go too crazy as far as hardware goes, but still have a system that is great in performance. Now that they don't have to worry about another format war right now and have established a solid line of exclusive franchises, they should be much better off at the start than they were with the PS3.
 
Flem said:
nintendo's demo was always little kids. wii outsold the shit out of ps3 and xbox, so you cant really say they're falling on their face.
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Can you give us some stats on that? I could have sworn PS3 has dominated overall.
 
Let me tell you why

1. Smart phones
2. Tablets
3. PS3
4. XBox 360
5. Lack of third party titles

They don't 'suck' but they've greatly fallen off.

To me, the age of 'portable consoles' died when smart phones were honed into high def production machines capable of running pretty games with solid gameplay. I'd rather own a tab/android that can surf the web, make calls, play games, and download apps over whatever DS they're shoving down the fanboy's throats these days.

Personally, of course.
 
Rmbr2Breathe said:
I don't think Nintendo sucks, especially not now. I'm looking forward to buying a Wii-U soon. Hell it'd be my first gaming console since the Dreamcast. I think alot of older gamers are upset that Nintendo isn't going head to head with Sony and MS and feel betrayed by their decision as a business to remain in business and not go the wayside hardware wise like Sega, Atari, etc. There's no way a company like Nintendo can sustain losses on the hardware side like Sony and MS can.
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Very true.

They have a nice little niche and until it stops selling console they aren't going to change.

There's a reason why they don't compete with Sony and MS with super consoles, they can't!

The WiiU does look interesting and the timing is nice, but I'd rather bide my time and wait for the next MS/Sony console.
 
Is MS really losing money on the box like sony is with the ps3? perhaps but not like a 1-3 sony is losing on the Ps3.
 
livingdeadmoose said:
Sorry, but graphics were so fucking horrible that nothing else could have made up for that.
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You know, it's sad that people these days are so obsessed with graphics. I'm glad that some years back EGM listed Tetris as the best video game of all time (Link to the Past was second place, if I recall correctly).

Gameplay is far more important than graphics.
 
nintendo is my favorite gaming company by far and it always will be.

Nintendo has the best set of exclusives in Mario, Zelda, among others, and when it comes to those titles, they dont fuck around. Whens the last time you played a bad , or poorly made mario or zelda game.

One of their failures has been their online though, if you are someone who wants to play with friends or play cod type games, the nintendo online is very poor.
 
Space said:
You know, it's sad that people these days are so obsessed with graphics. I'm glad that some years back EGM listed Tetris as the best video game of all time (Link to the Past was second place, if I recall correctly).

Gameplay is far more important than graphics.
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I agree! I can't stand ghraphics whores. I still prefer all my old school games over the ones today with better graphics.

When I complain about the graphics in Windwaker, I'm not saying they are not advanced enough, I'm saying the the graphics made me feel like I was playing a game based on Teletubies.

Believe me, I'm not a graphics whore. I'm on the same page as you when it comes to that.
 
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