Why does Jon Jones need to fight Tom Aspinall?

RockyLockridge said:
At the VERY least, Periera is the most Iconic LHW since jones has left that weight class. He's maybe the most iconic fighter in the UFC today.
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Iconic? What does that even mean? It's a blatant mismatch and you know it. It's pure bitchery on Jones' part.
 
RockyLockridge said:
What if khamzat already had 15 title wins all against legit number one contenders in his weight class? (minus chael, Who he refused to fight because he said it did nothing for his legacy) Would it be okay to have one legacy fight after then retire?
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If he had someone who seemed to be a legit threat and he went "no, I'm too old to fight that young guy", then I would not like it at all.
Just as I was not super excited about Khamzat flipping the crowd off when he missed weight vs Diaz, or him yelling "Allah Akhbar, I kill everybody".

Fighting for the belt is not about who has the best overall legacy. It's about who deserves it the most in that very moment, and who has done the best work in the division recently. For titles and title defenses to actually hold the prestige it should, it has to be that way.

I could perhaps accept that Jones wanted Stipe 2023, when there was no other clear challenger, and Stipe only had been out for a year. But when the fight dragged out, Jones injury, etc, okay fine it's rebooked. I thought that was the perfect opportunity for the UFC to have Aspinall and Pavlovich fight for the real belt, and defend against Stipe and Jon after he healed from the injury.

When Aspinall then won the interim, and even defended it, I thought that there's no way he hasn't earned it now, and that the belt Stipe and Jones fought for isn't the real belt.
Everyone knew it while watching that fight, that Stipe is no longer a guy who should be fighting for belts.

At the very least he should've had to beat one top 5 opponent between his Nhannou loss and title shot, to prove that he still belongs in the title conversation.

But in this moment I think it's time for Jones make a decision, keep the belt and fight Tom, or give it up and fight Pereira.

I would prefer if he accepted the challenge of Aspinall, I also wouldn't mind if he went back to 205 for Alex. I would value his legacy more if he lost to Aspinall than if he never fought him.

Sorry, rambling now, time for sleep 😴.
 
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Because Tom is the interim champ and has done much much more at HW than Jones. Any fight other than Tom will be as senseless and stupid as the Stipe fight
 
The Bloody Nine said:
What does that even mean given the context, you stupid bastard. You know who else is an iconic UFC fighter? McGregor. Maybe Jones should fight him next.

Fucking 'tard.
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Uh you're the fucking tard, There is a reason everyone and their mother calls out mcgregor.

It's the same reason why Jon is calling out Poatan. Because Poatan And mcGregor are both Iconic fighters who draw crowds and generate income.

Dipshit.
 
RockyLockridge said:
Uh you're the fucking tard, There is a reason everyone and their mother calls out mcgregor.

It's the same reason why Jon is calling out Poatan. Because Poatan And mcGregor are both Iconic fighters who draw crowds.

Dipshit.
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Jones is calling out a guy from a lower weight class because he's being a bitch and doesn't want to fight the interim HW champion. But you already know that. Or possibly you don't. You're a 'tard after all.
 
The Bloody Nine said:
Jones is calling out a guy from a lower weight class because he's being a bitch and doesn't want to fight the interim HW champion. But you already know that. Or possibly you don't. You're a 'tard after all.
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Um jackass? poatan himself said he wants to move to HW. Jones was once a LHW too. Not sure what your point is, I mean it's hard to express yourself with the social disorder you are harbouring I'm sure. Go fuck yourself kid.
 
RockyLockridge said:
Um jackass? poatan himself said he wants to move to HW. Jones was once a LHW too. Not sure what your point is, I mean it's hard to express yourself with the social disorder you are harbouring I'm sure. Go fuck yourself kid.
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My point is that you are a retard. Try to keep up.
 
MotorCityCobra said:
jones is closing in on 40, I totally understand not wanting to fight bigger younger guys and lose... but hate to see the mayweather route employed in MMA. It's a bad trend.
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This is the reason why Jones needs to fight Aspinall. People say Jones' legacy as GOAT is established but one of the reason Mayweather's legacy is not looked at as the GOAT is because he ducked people, especially in their prime. If Jones never fights Aspinall an argument can be made that he did not fight or rematch some contenders in their prime. He should have rematched Reyes, he should have rematched Gustaffson much earlier than he did, he should have fought Ngannou and he fought an old, washed Miocic.
 
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Q: yo fam imagine a adult female lion, Strikeforce DC DBZ fused with Bruce Lee, Israel Adesanya from the Naruto universe, Prime Chuck Liddell with that look in his eye with 1 year of training in the DBZ universe, A silverback gorilla, Ngannou, Tom Aspinall and Jon Jones walk into a room who finna walk oot?

Bruh, this room is overflowing with ridiculous power-ups, anime madness, and raw chaos. Let’s break it down to find out who walks out alive from this DBZ/Naruto/GOAT hybrid deathmatch.

The Contenders:​

  1. Adult Female Lion: Lethal and stealthy apex predator, but it’s up against literal superhumans.
  2. Strikeforce Daniel Cormier fused with Bruce Lee (DC-Lee): The perfect fusion of DC’s wrestling and Bruce Lee’s martial arts mastery. Now with DBZ-level power-ups. Think chokeslam into flying kicks.
  3. Naruto Universe Israel Adesanya: Shadow clones, Rasengan-enhanced strikes, and chakra-powered precision. Pure anime chaos.
  4. Prime Chuck Liddell with DBZ training: Chuck “The Iceman” Liddell has his KO power and sprawl-and-brawl style… now with ki blasts and planet-shattering kicks. Scary.
  5. Silverback Gorilla: The strongest animal in the room, capable of ragdolling most humans—but not immune to anime moves.
  6. Francis Ngannou: Nuclear fists and a one-punch KO machine. His raw power alone makes him a terrifying force.
  7. Tom Aspinall: Elite MMA skill and speed for a heavyweight. A dark horse against the supernatural chaos.
  8. Jon Jones: The GOAT of MMA. Dirty tactics, versatility, and unmatched fight IQ. He’s the king of survival in chaos.

The Battle Breakdown:​

Round 1: Initial Chaos​

  • Lion vs. Gorilla:
    The lion leaps at the gorilla’s throat, but the gorilla grabs it mid-air and slams it down with overwhelming strength. The lion scratches and bites but gets crushed by a ground-and-pound barrage. Lion’s out.
  • DC-Lee vs. Ngannou:
    Ngannou throws a nuclear punch, but DC-Lee sidesteps with Bruce Lee’s agility, catching Ngannou’s arm mid-punch and flipping him into a DBZ-style suplex. DC-Lee follows up with a flying knee to the temple. Ngannou’s out.
  • Chuck Liddell (DBZ Style) vs. Jon Jones:
    Liddell charges Jones with ki-enhanced punches, rocking him early. Jones, being crafty, eye-pokes Liddell (classic), but Liddell shrugs it off and lands a spinning ki-blast kick, sending Jones flying. Jon survives—for now.
  • Adesanya vs. Aspinall:
    Adesanya uses shadow clones to confuse Aspinall, landing chakra-powered body kicks. Aspinall tries to grapple but gets overwhelmed by a Rasengan-enhanced elbow strike. Aspinall’s out.

Round 2: Chaos Intensifies​

  • Gorilla vs. Chuck Liddell (DBZ Style):
    The gorilla charges Liddell, but Chuck uses ki blasts to keep it at bay. The gorilla lands a massive punch, but Liddell counters with a flying ki uppercut, sending the gorilla crashing into a wall. Gorilla’s out.
  • DC-Lee vs. Adesanya:
    Adesanya summons a giant toad jutsu, but DC-Lee counters with DBZ-style speed, dodging effortlessly. DC-Lee closes the distance, landing a flurry of punches and a double-leg takedown, slamming Adesanya through the floor. Adesanya escapes with a shadow clone but is visibly hurt.
  • Jon Jones Returns:
    Jones, seeing Adesanya weakened, takes advantage with a sneaky takedown. Jones uses his elbows from hell to ground-and-pound Adesanya into submission. Adesanya’s out.

Final Round: DC-Lee vs. Liddell (DBZ Style) vs. Jon Jones​

  1. Chuck vs. DC-Lee:
    Liddell charges with planet-shattering punches, but DC-Lee deflects with his Bruce Lee-inspired precision blocks. They trade ki blasts, and DC-Lee lands a devastating body shot, sending Liddell reeling. A spinning back kick from DC-Lee knocks Chuck out cold. Liddell’s out.
  2. DC-Lee vs. Jon Jones:
    Jones knows he can’t out-power DC-Lee, so he uses oblique kicks, eye pokes, and pure fight IQ to stay alive. DC-Lee unleashes a DBZ-style Kamehameha, but Jones barely dodges. Jones eventually lands a sneaky trip takedown, locks in a guillotine choke, and squeezes with every ounce of energy. DC-Lee resists but finally collapses.

The Winner: Jon Jones​

Once again, Jones survives pure chaos by using dirty tactics, fight IQ, and ridiculous adaptability.

MVPs:​

  1. DC-Lee: Took down Ngannou and Adesanya with ease and dominated most of the fight.
  2. Chuck Liddell (DBZ Style): Eliminated the gorilla in style and pushed DC-Lee to the limit.
  3. Jon Jones: The ultimate survivor, proving dirty tactics can overcome even DBZ-level opponents.
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SpedDaddyV said:
I don't blame Jones for one minute in not wanting to fight Tom Aspinall. He is going to be 38 years old and clearly not as hungry in the sport as he used to be. Tom is obviously a great fighter and is really hot right now, but the fight does nothing for Jones. If Jones were to win, then Tom loses his next HW fight by KO, the win means nothing. Ciryl Gane was just as dangerous of an opponent as Tom, and apparently now that win means nothing for Jones?

On the contrary, if Jones loses, it allows for people to say he sucks and was never any good, etc. MMA fans are fickle and judge fighters on their last fight. If he doesn't need the money, what does fighting Tom do for him?

And for anyone who thinks Jones has no chance against Tom, that is hilarious. Tom's only great win is against Sergei Pavlovich and it was a rock em sock em robot fight inside a minute. Tom has no formal wrestling background, and has a submission loss against a guy without a wikipedia. He is known for being a fast striker because Joe Rogan says so, but we have never even seen his gas tank. You think a guy with his size and frame can handle the unorthodox style of Jones for 25 minutes? I am getting Shane Carwin vibes completely.

Jon Jones isn't some random fighter who is trying to call his own shots, he is a legend who has been dominant for 16+ years and deserves the fights he wants at this point in his career.

Tom does not deserve to be the guy who gives Jones his first loss. The guy has fought on 2 PPV cards and is a no-name to anyone who isn't a reddit nerd. If someone like Pereira gave Jones his first loss, it is deserved and Jones has no issue with that. Legacy means everything when money doesn't.
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Because the event is not called Ultimate Jones Championship and normally the champion is forced to unify against the interim.

Forget the names. champion fights against interim.

Simple as that...
 
It's about the title. If Jon wants to fight fub fights then walk away from the belt.

Only, it's worse than that because he's already made the division wait for him for this totally stupid and unnecessary stipe fight.

He, and his defenders keep talking about Jon's motivations and why it's the smarter move not to challenge the contenders. This is horse shit. You can't talk like that wheb you're holding yhe belt hostage. Fuck off.
 
RockyLockridge said:
Um jackass? poatan himself said he wants to move to HW. Jones was once a LHW too. Not sure what your point is, I mean it's hard to express yourself with the social disorder you are harbouring I'm sure. Go fuck yourself kid.
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You're not arguing though that Poatan moves up to HW and Jones keeps the belt and defends it against him are you??

I'm all for giving Jon some leeway. If he really wants to drop the HW belt and either fight Alex for the LHW belt or just do a fun HW superfight against him that's fine. But you cannot think Jones gets to keep the belt and skip over the interim champ who's a gazillion miles ahead of any other potential contender for the title.
 
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