why do ppl act as if weidman totally dominated silva?

[grimballer]

There are facts and there are opinions.

The facts are:

- Weidman clearly won round one of both fights.
- Weidman was inactive until the stoppage of round two in both fights.
- Weidman ditched his gameplan in the first fight & took a big risk to get the finish.
- He stated he was fatigued in the second round of the 1st fight.
- Anderson Silva has lost many first rounds.
- Anderson Silva has won most of the subsequent rounds.

Everything else is opinion. It's easy to see why some people thought Weidman definitely would have won regardless of either finish & it's also logical to see why many feel Anderson was on his way to taking over the fight.

another solid post?

whats happening? theres still hope for sherdog?

agree those are facts n most of the other stuff is mostly speculation.

but based on how silva came out in 2nd round in both fights n how flat weidman looked, i gotta say silva would probably finish him in 2nd or 3rd under normal circumstances.

 

[riitzni]

lol, he was broken TS. Twice.

Build a bridge and get over it.

 

[Nagorak]

EDIT: Also, plenty of people dispute that Weidman won twice 'fair and square'. I swear, it seems like half this site thinks Weidman's wins over Silva mean nothing still.

I would dispute that he won twice 'fair and square'. The second fight did not end in a normal fashion. A broken leg is a complete fluke. It doesn't matter who is fighting, a freak accident like that is just an anomaly.

Sure, give Weidman credit for the first fight, and you can even say his performance in both fights indicated he was better. But it's ridiculous when people count the leg break as a legit finish.

 

[Perrichet]

nobody disputes that. but why do ppl act as if silva was completely outmatched n weidman dominated from beginning til the end?

in both fights silva gave up the 1st round, like he always does. weidman got his td n did minimal damage while on top. in 2nd fight silva actually did more damage from the bottom, as he busted weidman up. if you watch carefully weidman was completely disoriented at the end of the round. he didnt know where his corner was.

Hilarious. Apparently landing one or two elbows from your back is more damaging than almost getting KO'd. I lost it at Weidman being 'completely disorientated'.

Anderson fans are something else

 

[Yolandabecool**]

Standing - beaten
Clinch - beaten
Cage control - beaten
Takedowns - beaten
Grappling - beaten
Submissions - beaten
Offense - beaten
Defense - beaten
Total strikes - beaten
Mental warfare - beaten
Threat of being finished - beaten
Overall damage - beaten

I think that's just as objective as the Silva fans who are in denial spouting garbage.

Standing - In the first fight Silva landed 14-8 on the feet. In the second fight Weidman was superior on the feet until the finish.

Clinch - Weidman was superior.

Cage Control - In the first round of both fights Weidman had the fight where he wanted it. During the second he was inactive until the finish on both occasions. He was in no more control than Anderson.

Takedown - 2/4 For Weidman. Weidman took the fight to the ground as many times as Anderson kept it standing.

Grappling - Chris was superior.

Submissions - He didn't land one. Considering his game plan he was the only fighter likely to be in position to land one.

Offense - Chris landed more.

Defense - Chris wasn't finished therefore his was superior. Anderson survived all of Chris's game planned attacks however.

Total strikes - Chris won.

Mental Warfare - IMO Anderson won the mental warfare in the first. Chris finished the fight by doing exactly why he wasn't supposed to do, and placing himself in a position which would have put him at huge risk v a focused fighter in that moment. Neither appeared rattled in the second fight.

Threat of being finished - Doubling up on fight components here but Weidman was the only one threatening the finish from what we saw.

Overall damage - Another similar component which goes to Chris.

 

[n0thinglasts]

If you watch round 2 of their second fight Silva had landed more strikes before the leg break, so he was on his way to winning that round and probably the fight, its to bad it ended the way it did.

 

[the can]

this troll thread.... yes.

 

[omawho402]

bc he did.

 

[robjenkins2]

If you watch round 2 of their second fight Silva had landed more strikes before the leg break, so he was on his way to winning that round and probably the fight, its to bad it ended the way it did.

What?

 

[Yolandabecool**]

If you watch round 2 of their second fight Silva had landed more strikes before the leg break, so he was on his way to winning that round and probably the fight, its to bad it ended the way it did.

Only two strikes were landed in the second round of the second fight. Two Silva leg kicks. One landed. One finished the fight.

 

[IamStryker]

weidman did win 2 times, fair n square.

nobody disputes that. but why do ppl act as if silva was completely outmatched n weidman dominated from beginning til the end?

in both fights silva gave up the 1st round, like he always does. weidman got his td n did minimal damage while on top. in 2nd fight silva actually did more damage from the bottom, as he busted weidman up. if you watch carefully weidman was completely disoriented at the end of the round. he didnt know where his corner was.

in 2nd round in both fights weidman didnt do much. in 1st fight he tried a telegraphed td n got stuffed n then threw sloppy punches n kicks. in the 2nd fight he was just trying to survive the round, as silva was on the attack.

both fights had a bizarre ending to them. 1st with silva overdoing his mind games n in 2nd with a freak injury. weidman did win on paper, but neither one of those wins prove without a shadow of a doubt that weidman is better than silva.

if or when they fight again silva is still gonna be the favorite to win n silva by tko 2nd or 3rd round seems like the most probable outcome.

Well losing badly twice doesn't exactly prove Silva is better. Not only did he lose badly but he didn't do anything significant against Weidman in either fight. By all appearances Silva got flustered in both fights because he couldn't do anything to Weidman which is why he ended up making bad mistakes in both fights that got him knocked out and then carried out on a stretcher.

 

[Szwok]

chris won by flash KO and freak injury. These kind of endings are not clear cut of whow as better. It leaves to much room for discussion. I doubt we will see a Weidmann vs Silva 3 tho. So we wont ever find out.

If anything, i think AS would win vs Machida, so lets see how weidmann does.

 

[n0thinglasts]

Only two strikes were landed in the second round of the second fight. Two Silva leg kicks. One landed. One finished the fight.

He also countered Weidman with a solid punch. Weidman didn't land anything unless you count the 2 kicks that silva blocked.

 

[JKS]

Maybe in the 1st fight TS......but the 2nd was all Weidman.

 

[BulldogWrestler]

He clowned him both times

TS is a bum

 

[HIMBOB]

It wasn't as big a domination as some people paint it to be, but he kinda get dominated.

However this is not unheard of with Anderson, he often drops the first round. Compare that to GSP and his fight with Hendricks, while GSP won the first rd it was 2 metric shit tonnes closer than any other had come before it.

 

[1punch1KO]

Took him down, had a decent sub attempt, flash KOed him in the clinch (Andy's own game), checked his kicks to the point of snapping his leg (2nd fight only), avoided getting punched/kicked in the face during the stand-up (Andy's own game), brutally KOed him

Fucking dominated.

/thread

 

[honzo]

Chris Weidman knocked Anderson Silva out in the first fight. Anderson may have been 'clowning' and that doesn't count as an excuse but we'll say that fight was 50/50 up to the k.o. Chris was doing well with his wrestling but Anderson was throwing good kicks.

The second fight Chris was doing well with his wrestling again, Chris dominated a clinch exchange (something Anderson is greatly feared and renowned for), and nullified Anderson's kicking game.

Chris beat Anderson in each of Anderson's strengths as well as winning his own strength (wrestling). That is the definition of a domination my friend. Clear cut, plain and simple. End of story.

 

[bjjwar]

weidman did win 2 times, fair n square.

nobody disputes that. but why do ppl act as if silva was completely outmatched n weidman dominated from beginning til the end?

in both fights silva gave up the 1st round, like he always does. weidman got his td n did minimal damage while on top. in 2nd fight silva actually did more damage from the bottom, as he busted weidman up. if you watch carefully weidman was completely disoriented at the end of the round. he didnt know where his corner was.

in 2nd round in both fights weidman didnt do much. in 1st fight he tried a telegraphed td n got stuffed n then threw sloppy punches n kicks. in the 2nd fight he was just trying to survive the round, as silva was on the attack.

both fights had a bizarre ending to them. 1st with silva overdoing his mind games n in 2nd with a freak injury. weidman did win on paper, but neither one of those wins prove without a shadow of a doubt that weidman is better than silva.

if or when they fight again silva is still gonna be the favorite to win n silva by tko 2nd or 3rd round seems like the most probable outcome.

Because sherdog hates Silva.Silva toyed with Weidman just like he did with everyone else.

 

[LordBarnaby**]

Because he did.