Who are the wreslters with best bjj in MMA history?

[DanDragon Machi]

Besides obvious names like Khabib, Makachev and Jones which are the wreslters who had the best subsmissions capacity or a ground so good that they would be able to spend minutes on the ground with bjj experts and still survive?

The first names that come to my mind are Weidman and Shields. Barnett right after. Randy Couture did a pretty close fight with Nog on the ground and Cejudo wans't threatened by Demetrious jiu-jitsu (ok DM is not a expert but was pretty dangeours on the ground)

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Makhachev is much better at wrestling and striking than submissions/ground fighting. He submitted Oliveira because Charles was hurt and barely resisted.

Josh Barnett and Jake Shields are better on the ground than Islam Makhachev. I'm not even sure what you mean by BJJ, as a lot of the fighters you listed do not really use BJJ principles on the ground. If you just mean good at fighting on the ground, then someone like Tito Ortiz with his elbows and GnP would count as a guy with "good BJJ".

And the answer is GSP regardless.

 

[fortheo]

Aljamain sterling. Tell me another wrestler hitting suloev stretches, or doing arm triangles from their back. He's also one of the best back takers in the sport. Oh, and he out grappled an olympic gold medal wrestler in MMA and he outgrappled an ADCC gold medalist in MMA.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Benson Henderson also comes to mind as someone with top tier BJJ/submission grappling.

 

[mkess101]

Besides obvious names like Khabib, Makachev and Jones which are the wreslters who had the best subsmissions capacity or a ground so good that they would be able to spend minutes on the ground with bjj experts and still survive?

The first names that come to my mind are Weidman and Shields. Barnett right after. Randy Couture did a pretty close fight with Nog on the ground and Cejudo wans't threatened by Demetrious jiu-jitsu (ok DM is not a expert but was pretty dangeours on the ground)

You nailed it with Weidman. There are a good number of even hard core fans that don't know how much a grappling savant the guy is.

If anyone hasn't seen it and doubts this, Google his ADCC match vs Andre Galvao. And understand that at the time Galvao was among the top bjj players on the planet. And Weidman had been training bjj ~9 months. Weidman didn't just try to play it conservative and survive either. He attacked, scrambled, etc. Absolutely ridiculous that he was able to hang like that while so green in that type competition.

 

[TriangleMonkey]

Mighty Mouse is the guy here




Khamzat is chasing the subs like goddamn rabid raccoon going after a camp-site hot-dog that hit the ground rolling

 

[RockyLockridge]

probably weidman

 

[Egészségére!]

Mir

 

[Lavitz]

Justin

 

[RockyLockridge]

Mir

still my number one favourite all time sub (sorry mighty mouse)

 

[wrestlefan]

Matt Hughes became really good on the ground.

 

[AP_RESURRECTION]

Matt Hughes became really good on the ground.

Underrated but he gets too much hate to get credit.

 

[Mind Mine]

Aljamain sterling. Tell me another wrestler hitting suloev stretches, or one doing arm triangles from their back. He's also one of the best back takers in the sport. Oh, and he out grappled an olympic gold medal wrestler in MMA and he outgrappled an ADCC gold medalist in MMA.

I was going to say the Mouse and Jones but you ethered my opinion. Glad I read first. Aljomain definitely

 

[Mind Mine]

Benson Henderson also comes to mind as someone with top tier BJJ/submission grappling.

Was he really a wrestler though? I always considered him more striker with excellent BJJ

 

[Mind Mine]

Mir

Mir is a legend with A+ submissions but wrestling?

 

[Rio Ferdinand]

Khamzat just ragdolled Arman Tsarukyan on Russian TV. Put him in a d'arce choke like it was nothing.

 

[DanDragon Machi]

Makhachev is much better at wrestling and striking than submissions/ground fighting. He submitted Oliveira because Charles was hurt and barely resisted.

Josh Barnett and Jake Shields are better on the ground than Islam Makhachev. I'm not even sure what you mean by BJJ, as a lot of the fighters you listed do not really use BJJ principles on the ground. If you just mean good at fighting on the ground, then someone like Tito Ortiz with his elbows and GnP would count as a guy with "good BJJ".

And the answer is GSP regardless.

So you didn't see Islam's fight against Poirier or Dan Hooker

 

[DanDragon Machi]

Benson Henderson also comes to mind as someone with top tier BJJ/submission grappling.

Benson is more a tae kwon do guy

 

[Vagabound]

So you didn't see Islam's fight against Poirier or Dan Hooker

Or Drew Dober who he arm triangled from half guard

 

[DanDragon Machi]

Aljamain sterling. Tell me another wrestler hitting suloev stretches, or doing arm triangles from their back. He's also one of the best back takers in the sport. Oh, and he out grappled an olympic gold medal wrestler in MMA and he outgrappled an ADCC gold medalist in MMA.

Although I agree you Cejudo had not fought for three years, I don't know if he was the best parameter