Who are the wreslters with best bjj in MMA history?

Sean Sherk wasn’t able to able to finish too many people but did pass pretty much every guard he was put in and had some of the best top control I’ve seen.

Matt Hughes showed some slick ground skills against high level grapplers. He did worked over on the ground against Verissimo, Penn, Newton, as well, but that’s nothing to be ashamed of…

Jeff Monson is considered a BJJ guy, but I believe he started with wrestling. I could be wrong about this though. But if it’s true, I would put him up there…

Jake Shields is another guy considered a BJJ fighter, but he wrestled in college and JC…

Demetrius Johnson was a good enough wrestler in high school that he could have gone to college on a scholarship, but he decided not to. He has some very slick submission against top competition, and once he was on top, he was pretty tough to sweep.
 
Egészségére! said:
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Mir
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Was Mir a wrestler ? If so his wrestling sucked
 
Mind Mine said:
Was he really a wrestler though? I always considered him more striker with excellent BJJ
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Isn't it funny how different people perceive a fighter, I always thought of him as wrestler that chose to stand (with average striking)
 
Big Tuppy Hole said:
I could never understand why he was standing, his wrestling/bjj was top notch.
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I find some people learn the basics of something and throw away their bread and butter.

Over the years the wrestlers and bjj guys that went stand up and should of used it more to setup taking em down and going to pound town..... but whatever.... meh....
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Any elite wrestler with that high level of BJJ is going to be in that “obvious” category. Jones, Khabib, GSP, Etc.
 
DanDragon Machi said:
Besides obvious names like Khabib, Makachev and Jones which are the wreslters who had the best subsmissions capacity or a ground so good that they would be able to spend minutes on the ground with bjj experts and still survive?

The first names that come to my mind are Weidman and Shields. Barnett right after. Randy Couture did a pretty close fight with Nog on the ground and Cejudo wans't threatened by Demetrious jiu-jitsu (ok DM is not a expert but was pretty dangeours on the ground)
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Couture's first three losses were by submission. I wouldn't count him.

Ricco Rodriguez might be worth a consideration. A bunch of submission wins during and after his prime. ADCC championship too.
 
Doctor Grudge said:
Makhachev is much better at wrestling and striking than submissions/ground fighting. He submitted Oliveira because Charles was hurt and barely resisted.

Josh Barnett and Jake Shields are better on the ground than Islam Makhachev. I'm not even sure what you mean by BJJ, as a lot of the fighters you listed do not really use BJJ principles on the ground. If you just mean good at fighting on the ground, then someone like Tito Ortiz with his elbows and GnP would count as a guy with "good BJJ".

And the answer is GSP regardless.
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Nah he just don’t go for
The sub. It’s all too pressure
Bjj
 
Megatronlee said:
Def a college wrestler. Just a freestyle guy. More of a floater on top than a grinder
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The hallmark of a great wrestler is an immaculate TD game and I just never saw it. Great grappling just relentless controlling wrestling wasn’t his strong suut
 
Egészségére! said:
His bio says:

HS senior year he was 44-1 & Nevada state champ

No college or Olympics but that counts as a wrestling background imo
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Yeah I have the same reaction, "Mir isn't a wrestler", but then I remember he started in wrestling and karate and was a state champ wrestler. BJJ came later, just shows how certain people will excel in particular arts, like how GSP did not come from a wrestling background.
 
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