Who are the wreslters with best bjj in MMA history?

Rio Ferdinand said:
Khamzat just ragdolled Arman Tsarukyan on Russian TV. Put him in a d'arce choke like it was nothing.

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I don't think that's Armen. I think it's a guy on his team, Yusupov.
 
based off the replies, i think ts meant what wrestlers have the best submission skills. asking who has the best bjj is an entirely different question.
 
Manlet anarchisy monson
 
Khabib goat
Islam elite
Khamzat elite

And DJ is one of the best to every to it. Very good passing, step over instead of tripod.
 
DanDragon Machi said:
Besides obvious names like Khabib, Makachev and Jones which are the wreslters who had the best subsmissions capacity or a ground so good that they would be able to spend minutes on the ground with bjj experts and still survive?

The first names that come to my mind are Weidman and Shields. Barnett right after. Randy Couture did a pretty close fight with Nog on the ground and Cejudo wans't threatened by Demetrious jiu-jitsu (ok DM is not a expert but was pretty dangeours on the ground)
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We dont know how good Jones bjj is. He has never done any guard play in MMA, which is amazing
 
mkess101 said:
You nailed it with Weidman. There are a good number of even hard core fans that don't know how much a grappling savant the guy is.

If anyone hasn't seen it and doubts this, Google his ADCC match vs Andre Galvao. And understand that at the time Galvao was among the top bjj players on the planet. And Weidman had been training bjj ~9 months. Weidman didn't just try to play it conservative and survive either. He attacked, scrambled, etc. Absolutely ridiculous that he was able to hang like that while so green in that type competition.
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The Weidman who got owned on the ground by Rockhold?
I dont think so.
Chris is good at using the ground to defend in other ways though, just ask Moussasi about Chris' "touch down then roll around acting hurt" tactics to try to get a DQ, which rightfully backfired.

UFC can give Weidman 10 more chances he doesnt deserve, any real fan remembers those bitch tactics and the respect that was lost with it.
 
TheMaster said:
The Weidman who got owned on the ground by Rockhold?
I dont think so.
Chris is good at using the ground to defend in other ways though, just ask Moussasi about Chris' "touch down then roll around acting hurt" tactics to try to get a DQ, which rightfully backfired.

UFC can give Weidman 10 more chances he doesnt deserve, any real fan remembers those bitch tactics and the respect that was lost with it.
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Rockhold had one of the best top games in MMA ever with his combination of BJJ top control and ground and pound. Really Jon Jones is the only comparable one that comes to mind.
 
TheMaster said:
The Weidman who got owned on the ground by Rockhold?
I dont think so.
Chris is good at using the ground to defend in other ways though, just ask Moussasi about Chris' "touch down then roll around acting hurt" tactics to try to get a DQ, which rightfully backfired.

UFC can give Weidman 10 more chances he doesnt deserve, any real fan remembers those bitch tactics and the respect that was lost with it.
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He tried a dumb spinning kick and his back was given to another terrific grappler in Rockhold.

Again, the guy was very competitive with Andre Galvao after only about 9 months of bjj training. Whatever else you say, that's a grappling prodigy.
 
I know you said besides Khabib but I am saying Khabib because most (including myself) don't realize how good he is at BJJ. My friends BJJ coach would go on and on about the guy back in 2019 how he was some sort of BJJ genius and this means nothing except that it makes sense if true and explains why he jumps into guard and even Islam has no fear rolling with Olivera.


edit: Going to get shit for this but the one guy I have seen sub Dagi guys in the past 3 yeard is paul Craig so I know he is not a wrestler but very few pure BJJ guys sub Dagi wrestlers
 
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