What will the JJ H8'ers excuse be when JJ submits or TKO's Tom?

while in reality he is ducking Tom and even admitting to it by changing his profile pic to a duck pic.

Holy shit, he really did <lmao>

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He's been ducking the REAL ground threat Jailton? It'll never end.

Honestly, Jon should just retire. There's nothing left to prove. He's the greatest of all time. What Dana should be doing is whatever they can to get Aspinall vs Ngannou in the cage together. Make a deal Dana.
I know this is an absolutely shocking concept, but yes, if he wants to continue as heavyweight champion then yes, he would be expected to fight the next best guy if he somehow got by Aspinall. That's kind of the idea of being a champion, you keep fighting the next best guy continually, not cherry pick easy fights.
 
If he wins and there's no bs surrounding it (cheating, injuries, and the like) then he deserves the accolades.
Few deny he's one of the all time greats, but critics have every right to question his output since 2016.
Lackluster decision against OSP, impressive win against Cormier overturned due to 'roiding, legal and steroid troubles all over the place, beats the shadow of Gustafsson (who, while he had finished Glover in his previous fight, went on to be finished by Anthony Smith in his next fight and lost all the rest of his fights after that), lackluster decision against Anthony Smith, split decision against Santos in a fight many thought Santos could have got the nod for, highly controversial nod against Reyes in a fight most thought Jones lost, takes three years off and comes back at hw against a kickboxer with little grappling to get the hw belt vacated by Francis, a year and a half later fights a 42 year old Stipe 3.5 years removed from his last fight (a ko loss to Francis that Stipe looked poor in), challenges a lhw kickboxer (though a defending champ) who has shown no grappling, and actively says he won't fight the defending interim hw champ.

I mean I realize he's at the tail end of his career, but that's a mostly unimpressive eight years. I wonder in the Jones fans that brush off those eight years were as critical of Conor fighting Cowboy at the tail end of Cowboy's career and choosing Chandler (with his losing record in the org.) as his next fight while stringing him along for a couple of years like Jones did to Stipe. If they went after Conor (who also has had legal and potential steroid use like Jones), but looked the other way with Jones then they are hypocrites.

All that being said, if Jones can come back again and beat Tom he deserves all the respect for doing so.
 
He's been ducking the REAL ground threat Jailton? It'll never end.

Honestly, Jon should just retire. There's nothing left to prove. He's the greatest of all time. What Dana should be doing is whatever they can to get Aspinall vs Ngannou in the cage together. Make a deal Dana.
He's a career long cheater, that's all. Been saying it before he entered HW. Because of that, the Tom fight is irrelevant.
 
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Yes Jones fans are so sensitive meanwhile a thread has been stickied at the top of a forum to bash the man in a forum that discourages bashing and back in the day if a Jones fan 40 trill accounts would artack you and make you crash out. I am here to tell you this is a lie. If any Jones fan from the beginning And I mean ANY you have no concept of the thickness of the skin involved to be here. Just keep your comments towards a person. You sound like you don’t have your thoughts in order and would leave a discussion that involves depth in your fucking feelings. You are built like you think you are
If Dricus refused to fight Khamzat and claimed he's only interested in fighting Rich Franklin or Belal, he'd rightfully be torn to shreds.
Whether you like or dislike Jon, the indisputable facts are that he is a drugs cheat, and as of right now has shown no inclination to fight the only man he has any business fighting. Neither of those things are respectable.
If he just wants gimmick fights from now on then fine, anyone can run their career however they'd like, but he can't hold the symbolic claim to being the best in the world if that's the case, and he needs to drop the belt.
 
What excuse?

Will congratulate him for an awesome win if he actually has the balls to step in the octagon with Tom. Which currently he demonstrates is shit scared of doing.
 
If Dricus refused to fight Khamzat and claimed he's only interested in fighting Rich Franklin or Belal, he'd rightfully be torn to shreds.
Whether you like or dislike Jon, the indisputable facts are that he is a drugs cheat, and as of right now has shown no inclination to fight the only man he has any business fighting. Neither of those things are respectable.
If he just wants gimmick fights from now on then fine, anyone can run their career however they'd like, but he can't hold the symbolic claim to being the best in the world if that's the case, and he needs to drop the belt.
I don’t give a shit why you would like to explain to me why people have whined the entire time of the man’s career. I’m addressing you lying to your deluded self that the fanbase of the most attacked fighter in history which the mods of this forum allow are the most sensitive. You will not duck that statement you are obviously and logically a liar. If any Jones fan is here from the beginning he has endured more disrespect than any. So take your shots at Jones I DONT CARE. You aim a shot at me I will expose you on this forum not because I’m sensitive but because you pointed your pathetic lying finger my direction and typed A LIE
 
He's been ducking the REAL ground threat Jailton? It'll never end.

Honestly, Jon should just retire. There's nothing left to prove. He's the greatest of all time. What Dana should be doing is whatever they can to get Aspinall vs Ngannou in the cage together. Make a deal Dana.
Once he beats Tom, they'll accuse him of ducking the real challenge, the real champion Oleksander Usyk.

Then once he beats him they'll claim he will have a tainted record unless he goes to WWE and fights Cody Rhodes at Wrestlemania
 
They will either say that he is not the real HW Champ until he fights Ngannou OR they will declare HW as a joke and push the narrative that winnng the HW title means nothing at the moment.
 
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Simple. Tom will become a can overnight he was never that good, ect.


Anything to not give jones full credit.

Jones really should not bother trying to appease this fanbase. They do not deserve jones vs aspinall.

I would have to admit he is inarguably the greatest fighter of all time.


But I don't think he can do that.

I dont think you can do it either, because if you wont do it now, you wont do it later
 
Simple. Tom will become a can overnight he was never that good, ect.


Anything to not give jones full credit.

Jones really should not bother trying to appease this fanbase. They do not deserve jones vs aspinall.



I dont think you can do it either, because if you wont do it now, you wont do it later
I already admit he is the greatest LHW fighter in history. But right now he has no real legacy at HW.

Aspinall is the top HW in the division. If Jones beats him there is no more questions.
 
1 - not a hater, the opposite, I like Jones

2 - I honestly believe he should fight Tom

3 - If he takes the fight and submits Tom, hes goat stock will go up a lot
 
He's been ducking the REAL ground threat Jailton? It'll never end.

Honestly, Jon should just retire. There's nothing left to prove. He's the greatest of all time. What Dana should be doing is whatever they can to get Aspinall vs Ngannou in the cage together. Make a deal Dana.

He's only 37, not 44.

If he wants to retire, just retire.

If not, fight the best available.

His choice.

And you know he wants to fight on.
 
If Dricus refused to fight Khamzat and claimed he's only interested in fighting Rich Franklin or Belal, he'd rightfully be torn to shreds.
Whether you like or dislike Jon, the indisputable facts are that he is a drugs cheat, and as of right now has shown no inclination to fight the only man he has any business fighting. Neither of those things are respectable.
If he just wants gimmick fights from now on then fine, anyone can run their career however they'd like, but he can't hold the symbolic claim to being the best in the world if that's the case, and he needs to drop the belt.
I know you view yourself a man of intelligence and reasoning Sir. I assure you in every capacity whatever you thought you were, you are dealing with the real deal in that capacity respectfully. If ANYONE has been through the turbulent ups and downs of that man’s career and the disrespect that came with it to say I’m a Jones fan still what you wont be doing today is picking up a rock and throwing it like a common coward at a fanbase and then hiding your little shitty drawer antics behind Jon Jones did something. Boy I would air you out to prove a lesson and talk to you like a firm Dad when I was done. All that projecting your own sensitivity on me shit keep it to yourself. You don’t weigh what you think you do. Have I made myself respectfully clear?
 
Excuse for not fighting him? Lol wtf you yapping about?

Why should he fight him? What does Jon Jones have to gain by fighting Tom Aspinall? Fame, glory, GOAT status etc.? He already has it all. Everything.
Why is he in the HW division? Just to beat up a 1 dimensional French mental midget and an incoherent geriatric?
Totally cemented his legacy.
 
I'd say Jon earned his stripes as a HW and is clearly great without steroids or cherry picking. But since he won't fight Tom, he's the same sociopathic manipulator he's always been.
 

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