International What is everyones thoughts on a war with Venezuela?

[White Whale]

Venezuelans seem to be happy but I still don't want America to get involved in foreign affairs. I understand this was done to screw over China which is good this has me split I like seeing them happy I just don't want America to waste money their like Iraq.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Trump takes out a dictator and the Venezuela people are cheering. Have you forgotten that the Venezuelan people had to eat their own animals to survive? The Democratic Party has no clear policies other than to take out the orange man. I think it’s hilarious to watch you guys cry like a bunch of little babies cause you didn’t get your way. Trump is carrying out his campaign promises, which is a hell of a lot more than Biden did.

This place can be embarrassing at times.

I'm sure I have a much better understanding of what's been going on in Venezuela than you do going back to the early 2000s. Some people are cheering now but how many cheered Chavez all the way as he consolidated power and turned the country into an authoritarian hellhole?

You MAGA cultists are no better than the Chavista red shirts that supported him because they were bought with unsustainable policies meant to keep him in power even if it ultimately led the country to hyperinflation and those same supporters having to root through garbage for a meal.

And please spare me any mention of the well being of the Venezuelan people because Trump couldn't care less about them. This is about him getting his hands on their oil and taking attention away from the Epstein Files and his other failures at home.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Waiting… EIGHT… HOURS… to se a doctor… you don’t think that has anything to do with the system?

It’s not some exceptionally incompetent staff, I live in another province and waited 6 hours for my son to get 5 stitches that took 3 minutes… this was in another hospital, different staff, and these are not outliers, this is now the norm up here.

You can blame the system for long waits scheduling a procedure but in an ER setting you go to triage and they determine the order in which patients are seen. I had a torn cornea here in NYC and had to wait something like 5 hours to be seen as new patients kept arriving that were much more seriously injured.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Venezuelans seem to be happy but I still don't want America to get involved in foreign affairs. I understand this was done to screw over China which is good this has me split I like seeing them happy I just don't want America to waste money their like Iraq.

Do you realize Buenos Aires is in Argentina that Trump just bailed out with our money? Venezuelans might be happy to see Maduro get arrested but how is this going to better their lives since the same government us in place and Trump's goal is strictly to take their oil?

 

[Rod1]

This happened in Canada just last week, on the same day that carnival Carney pledged billions more to Ukraine.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-orders-review-after-man-dies-waiting-in-edmonton-emergency-department-9.7028583

And in America you pay into companies whose whole money making scheme is denying you coverage you already paid for.

Canada isn't perfect but American healthcare is ridiculously expensive.

 

[Nizam al-Mulk]

A Blue Wave these coming midterms...

That is not what that would be.

 

[Bwagster]

I'm sure I have a much better understanding of what's been going on in Venezuela than you do going back to the early 2000s. Some people are cheering now but how many cheered Chavez all the way as he consolidated power and turned the country into an authoritarian hellhole?

You MAGA cultists are no better than the Chavista red shirts that supported him because they were bought with unsustainable policies meant to keep him in power even if it ultimately led the country to hyperinflation and those same supporters having to root through garbage for a meal.

And please spare me any mention of the well being of the Venezuelan people because Trump couldn't care less about them. This is about him getting his hands on their oil and taking attention away from the Epstein Files and his other failures at home.

People like you have a hard time grasping that socialism doesn’t work: capitalism does.

America doesn’t need Venezuelan oil. It’s to keep it away from China and Russia. You seem to have a hard time grasping this.

If Trump was implicated in the Epstein affairs, then why didn’t Biden go after him? They trumped up 34 felonies and several impeachments and you mean to tell me they didn’t go after Trump if they knew he was involved with Epstein? That’s because they had nothing, or they would’ve gone all in. I’m sorry if you wanna live in fantasy land, but in my world you don’t get to move the goal post whenever you feel like it. This is why people can’t take Democrats seriously. Look at Minnesota and Tim Walz withdrawning his bid to run another term. It’s because he’s no longer useful to the party and neck deep in the Somalian scandal. Omar is most likely next.

 

[Absolut]

Do you realize Buenos Aires is in Argentina that Trump just bailed out with our money? Venezuelans might be happy to see Maduro get arrested but how is this going to better their lives since the same government us in place and Trump's goal is strictly to take their oil?

 

[GhostZ06]

Hes been 32% for awhile

 

[Roids]

People like you have a hard time grasping that socialism doesn’t work: capitalism does.

America doesn’t need Venezuelan oil. It’s to keep it away from China and Russia. You seem to have a hard time grasping this.

 

[Bwagster]

80% of oil from Venezuela goes to China. It’s probably a ploy to slow China down. Otherwise Venezuela is irreverent.

 

[SurferH2O]

I just want to share this gem from a legend.



“Socialism failing as it always does, this time in Venezuela. You talk about giving everybody something for free and all of sudden there’s no food to eat.” - Vin Scully

 

[Bwagster]

 

[Absolut]

80% of oil from Venezuela goes to China. It’s probably a ploy to slow China down. Otherwise Venezuela is irreverent.

 

[Koro_11]

You can blame the system for long waits scheduling a procedure but in an ER setting you go to triage and they determine the order in which patients are seen. I had a torn cornea here in NYC and had to wait something like 5 hours to be seen as new patients kept arriving that were much more seriously injured.

No, you can blame the system for that too, if the hospitals had more staff, and were better equipped to receive a normal volume of patients, they would be able to tend to both. The tens of billions of dollars they’ve given to Ukraine would go a long way in improving those conditions.

 

[MLarson]

Remember when MAGA kept pretending that Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris were secret neocon war hawks who were going to get us into World War III, and that Trump was the peace President who just wanted to focus on America?

I remember when people thought that Harris would beat Trump.

 

[Rational Poster]

Remember when you claimed this would be worse than Afghanistan

@Rational Poster

You couldn't have been more fucking wrong.

This is still ongoing what are you even talking about, guy who refused to read my post specifically going into post Maduro Venezuela.

And the Trump administration has been all over this place pretty much confirming my position, they don't actually have a plan for post Maduro Venezuela.

 

[Rod1]

This is still ongoing what are you even talking about, guy who refused to read my post specifically going into post Maduro Venezuela.

Your post claimed that it would be a worse Iraq because it was a mountain country, that Caracas was a fortress and that the US had no bases to operate from.

All of those points are ridiculous as many people pointed out Venezuelan military won't fight America, their only job is to repress an unarmed population, they will tuck tail and run the moment hostilities begin.

And the Trump administration has been all over this place pretty much confirming my position, they don't actually have a plan for post Maduro Venezuela.

They do seems to have a plan, which is to force negotiations with anyone in the regime the carrot and stick system, i mean Biden made a crapload of negotiations and concessions which is called the only carrots system