Opinion War Room Government Shutdown over/under predictions

[N13]

@avenue94

The biggest issue right now is SNAP benefits. The clock is ticking.

 

[avenue94]

I'm sorry mang. You are opening a big can of worms there and I'm not interested in doing that. Maybe another time.

By not doing this, you mean you're running because your views are unsupported by reality?

Here's the Medicare for All Act bill that perpetually floats around in the House and its sponsors. Notice how many Democrats vs Republicans sponsored it?

@avenue94

The biggest issue right now is SNAP benefits. The clock is ticking.

Which party cut back on SNAP spending and access to SNAP with the BBB? This is super simple if you aren't being dishonest.

 

[N13]

By not doing this, you mean you're running because your views are unsupported by reality?

Here's the Medicare for All Act bill that perpetually floats around in the House and its sponsors. Notice how many Democrats vs Republicans sponsored it?

Which party cut back on SNAP spending and access to SNAP with the BBB? This is super simple if you aren't being dishonest.

Ok fuckstick meat grinder. Find someone else to play with. Learn some manners.

 

[avenue94]

Ok fuckstick meat grinder. Find someone else to play with. Learn some manners.

Me: Democrats are more willingly to support Medicare for All
You: Both parties are equally bad on this issue.
Me: Here's the bill that's been in the House for 20 years, almost all the sponsors are Democrats.
You: You're being so rude.

 

[N13]

Me: Democrats are more willingly to support Medicare for All
You: Both parties are equally bad on this issue.
Me: Here's the bill that's been in the House for 20 years, almost all the sponsors are Democrats.
You: You're being so rude.

Lets keep it simple. Do you think the shutdown will end prior to SNAP benefits expiring?

 

[Fedor>Cain]

Explain what you meant by "the embodiment of lower class" Sounds like you are trying to back track on an insult. But that is not surprising.

Bro, he quite literally just explained it to you

 

[avenue94]

Lets keep it simple. Do you think the shutdown will end prior to SNAP benefits expiring?

I'm not sure, I'm not much of a tea reader on political things like that. My answer for the record is the same on whether or not one party will be hurt or helped more. IDK, I don't have a crystal ball.

I hope that the ACA premiums are extended and shutdown ends before SNAP benefits get interrupted, but I'm not in Congress.

 

[N13]

I'm not sure, I'm not much of a tea reader on political things like that. My answer for the record is the same on whether or not one party will be hurt or helped more. IDK, I don't have a crystal ball.

I hope that the ACA premiums are extended and shutdown ends before SNAP benefits get interrupted, but I'm not in Congress.

I'm thinking that the shutdown will not end, and this week will be chock full of propaganda regarding who is to blame. Meanwhile, people are about to suffer the consequences.

I have 3 friends who depend on SNAP to feed their families. They used to be in the middle class but now they are poor due to all the inflation over the last few years. They are terrified and they don't care about the blame game. Around here, food banks are running low already...

 

[avenue94]

I'm thinking that the shutdown will not end, and this week will be chock full of propaganda regarding who is to blame. Meanwhile, people are about to suffer the consequences.

I have 3 friends who depend on SNAP to feed their families. They used to be in the middle class but now they are poor due to all the inflation over the last few years. They are terrified and they don't care about the blame game. Around here, food banks are running low already...

Are those three friends going to be impacted if ACA subsidies aren't renewed?

 

[N13]

Are those three friends going to be impacted if ACA subsidies aren't renewed?

Yes. But one of them has no insurance. They are self employed and can't afford it. He uses Urgent Care as needed.

The subsidies have to be extended.

 

[N13]

@avenue94

I resorted to my AI agent:
Me: Tell me about the government shutdown. Will it end this week given the end of snap benefits on Nov. 1?
AI: The government shutdown is unlikely to end this week, despite the looming cutoff of SNAP benefits on November 1. The Senate has adjourned until Monday, October 27, and no deal is currently in sight.
What Could Break the Stalemate:
• Public backlash as SNAP and WIC benefits halt
• Economic pressure from furloughed workers and delayed federal services
• Fed rate cut on October 29 may shift fiscal urgency
• Presidential intervention or bipartisan compromise
Unless Monday’s vote brings a breakthrough, the shutdown will stretch into November, triggering widespread food insecurity and deepening economic strain.

This is bad news. The Devil's holiday is October 31. Will people depend on candy?

 

[italiamusica]

It's beyond pathetic that there are still people who support all of this, and act like it's the "evil libtards" who are trying to ruin food stamps and fuck everyone over.

Imagine being a professional and in a position where you're supposed to be respectful, and this is the type of shit you say:

"IF YOU DIE, IT'S THE EVIL DEMOCRATS FAULT, NOT US"

And some of you sea urchin retards believe it, and eat it up, and suck the dicks of the oppressors.

 

[N13]

Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks (R-Iowa) on Friday introduced a bill to fund the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) as the government shutdown threatens payments of the food aid in some states.

The Keep SNAP Funded Act of 2025 would keep the food aid program funded during the government lapse until the Department of Agriculture is funded through regular appropriations or stopgap measures.

The bill is the companion to a SNAP-funding bill in the Senate being led by Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.)

@avenue94 Do you think the dems will support this? I hope they do.

I'm wondering which bill will be voted on first in the Senate, the CR or SNAP?

 

[italiamusica]

It's all a fucking hypocritical joke, just nonsense over and over again. And the TDS MAGA crew just keep loving it and buying into all of it, and so many of them (since a lot of them are on food stamps as well) are going to suffer, but still blame THE EVIL LIBTARDS. Holy shit is it weird and deranged lol.



"He's the one who has to get people together," but now it's, "the democrats are losers and my enemies and I hate them and want nothing to do with them."

Fucked.

 

[N13]

Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks (R-Iowa) on Friday introduced a bill to fund the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) as the government shutdown threatens payments of the food aid in some states.

The Keep SNAP Funded Act of 2025 would keep the food aid program funded during the government lapse until the Department of Agriculture is funded through regular appropriations or stopgap measures.

The bill is the companion to a SNAP-funding bill in the Senate being led by Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.)

@avenue94 Do you think the dems will support this? I hope they do.

I'm wondering which bill will be voted on first in the Senate, the CR or SNAP?

@avenue94

I did some research and the 13th vote on the CR is tomorrow at 3pm.

The SNAP funding bill in the house needs to pass out of a committee first and then all it takes is a simple majority to pass. Shouldn't be a problem.

The SNAP funding bill in the Senate is also in a committee. After it moves through that the bill would require the 60 votes to continue to another final simple majority vote..(just like the CR)

Note: if the two bills do not match, then they go to reconciliation, which would slow things down. If that is not an issue, this measure could be finalized by November 1.

 

[MetalMilitia]

@avenue94

I did some research and the 13th vote on the CR is tomorrow at 3pm.

The SNAP funding bill in the house needs to pass out of a committee first and then all it takes is a simple majority to pass. Shouldn't be a problem.

The SNAP funding bill in the Senate is also in a committee. After it moves through that the bill would require the 60 votes to continue to another final simple majority vote..(just like the CR)

Note: if the two bills do not match, then they go to reconciliation, which would slow things down. If that is not an issue, this measure could be finalized by November 1.

Well, dipshit here already confirmed the two sides working amicably together here won't be happening. TRICK OR TREAT! (Federal food aid will not go out starting Nov. 1 amid government shutdown, Trump administration says)

"The reality is, if they sat down to try to negotiate, we could probably come up with something pretty quickly" -- "We could open up the government on Tuesday or Wednesday, and there wouldn't be any crisis in the food stamp program..."

SOURCE

...This isn’t governance -- it’s a fuckin' slow motion food fight -- ironically scheduled with 40 million empty plates...

Congress built a system where political gridlock starves citizens while lawmakers get paid -- The USDA and the “well has run dry” is bullshit bureaucratic garbage for “we’d rather let you skip dinner than skip protocol" -- a real great start to the week with zero good faith it seems from either side -- Imagine my shock.

Welcome to America! Where the safety net depends on who blinks first....

... so the government stays shut down -- food aid on hold.... you know what's great about that? -- The fuckin' people who need food don’t get any -- and the people who caused it still get steak dinners on taxpayer tabs. (R) crying about fiscal discipline -- (D) crying about moral duty -- they’re both standing on your balls wearing high heels... grinding the foot in...

...The "well has run dry" -- sure fucking thing! -- Except for corporate subsidies -- defense contracts -- and congressional salaries... that well seems to be alarmingly overflowing...

The truth is, they don’t care if you eat -- they care if you vote -- and they’re betting hunger makes you angrier at the other team. America being a country where politicians can starve you to prove how much they care about you is wrong from all sides of the argument.

Welcome to the "shutdown diet" -- let's just call the restaurant the "R&D Bullshit Buffet"

We hope you enjoy!

 

[Blayt7hh]

Says you.

42 million people on SNAP is a well known fact.

So the question is, what percentage of poor people are democrat voters?

From PEW research:

Partisanship by income groups​

Democrats have a substantial advantage over Republicans among voters in the lowest income tier, and a modest advantage among those at the highest income tier:

• About six-in-ten voters with lower family incomes (58%) associate with the Democratic Party, compared with 36% who affiliate with the Republican Party.

Yeah that’s quite a ways off from 85%. @heloder didn’t want to look it up because he already knew you were wasting peoples time with that claim.

This shutdown isn’t just “the dems” fault. It’s the result of these party line politics and hardball politics where both teams will no longer compromise on anything. Republicans are in power and haven’t made a single concession to the Democrats all year and this is the only tool the dems really have to get what they want. The Republicans have done the same thing when the shoe was in the other foot.

This is a problem that started with Newt Gengrich and has gotten worse until we got to today where neither side negotiates at all with the other. I don’t know how that’s ever going to get fixed.

 

[Blayt7hh]

You mean look at Republicans who have had almost 20 years to come up with a health care alternative to the ACA and have nothing to show for it?

They have come up with the alternative. That alternative is to completely privatize it in the hands of oligopolies that collude to prey on us.

In their defense some democrats don’t want that the change either

 

[Andy Capp]

They have come up with the alternative. That alternative is to completely privatize it in the hands of oligopolies that collude to prey on us.

In their defense some democrats don’t want that the change either

It's too bad they likely will never dispose of the electoral college.

 

[Blayt7hh]

It's too bad they likely will never dispose of the electoral college.

Two party system needs to be broken but I don’t ever see that happening in our lifetime