Wanderlei Silva gets lifetime ban

giusti825 said:
He only has to pay the fine to fight in Nevada.....nowhere else. Nevada is not the entire world, only a very small part of the US.

Surely you can see how refusing to pay a fine and having a fist fight are not the same thing??:redface:
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The UFC has the right to honor Nevada's suspension when considering to scheduled Wand for a fight regardless of where that fight may be.
 
giusti825 said:
He only has to pay the fine to fight in Nevada.....nowhere else.
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man you really do live in your own little word where facts are irrelevant.

1. the UFC will not book him to fight while under suspension.

2. If the UFC cut him and he signed with say Bellator, then the other commissions (in US) would not allow the fight because they would honour the NSAC decision.
 
Actually I'm wrong the Ravens terminated his contract so I guess he could go to England or China if he wanted.
 
if they're going to make this the norm from now on then that is okay with me.

there should be lifetime ban for dodging test, testing positive, or in the case of TRT testing over.
 
SerrabyTKO said:
He can certainly try, and will get laughed out of court, as I stated before. The UFC is well within their rights to honor his suspension before scheduling him.
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Usually that would be correct, if there was a time limit. Once they got into "indefinite" and "lifetime" issues that affect a contract, the contract begins to tread harshly over the 13th amendment and becomes unenforceable.

Contracts are required to benefit both parties. If they are not going to schedule him to fight, there is no need for the contract.

Sure, they have the right to breach the contract, but wand also has the right to seek termination of the contract for the breach.
 
aker2703 said:
indefinite suspension is not a lifetime ban. If Wand plays nice (accepts blame and apologises), he could most likely be back in 2 years (who knows maybe less if he kissed ass)
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Wanderlei got a lifetime ban. They first agreed on an indefinite suspension but ended up giving him a lifetime ban.
 
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He has retired anyway, not like any of this matters.
 
Pirroh said:
He has retired anyway, not like any of this matters.
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Why do you think he retired in the first place? He know this was coming. It also matters in the sense that we know he'll never be coming out of retirement.
 
I don't agree with it.

Overeem ran from a test is is still one of the highest paid fighters in the UFC.

But Wand retired anyway so it really doesn't matter.
 
aker2703 said:
man you really do live in your own little word where facts are irrelevant.

1. the UFC will not book him to fight while under suspension.

2. If the UFC cut him and he signed with say Bellator, then the other commissions (in US) would not allow the fight because they would honour the NSAC decision.
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Point number 2 is not correct. There are many states that would never enforce a lifetime ban for a first time offender of refusal of drug test.

Once again texas comes to mind. Its a right to work state. They wouldnt enforce any suspension but their own. And thats how it should be.
 
No. I agree that the punishment should've been harsher than normal because of what he did and the way he did it, but it should've been like 5 years or something. Either way, though, that would mean he's done fighting since he's old now.
 
He probably hurt his chances when he undermined their authority and skipped out on that one scheduled date.
 
Depends on if they continue the lifetime ban on future events like this. If so I have no problem with it.
 
Gametheory said:
That's exactly what I'm saying: Wand gets banned, but Overeem doesn't.
They both did the same thing, yet Wand gets punished more heavily.

And I'm an Overeem fan, and don't like Wand at all.
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if I remember correctly, Overeem ran when he heard the rumor about tests. at no point was he actually confronted by an AC official regarding the tests. Wand talked to an AC official and then ran out the back door. these are two completely different situations.
 
aker2703 said:
you do realise that Zuffa would sue Bellator as well right? Bellator can't sign a fighter that is under contract. Bellator tried this already (Vyacheslav Vasilevsky) and got their ass handed to them by M-1.

If wand fights in brazil (and breaches his UFC contract) it will not be with an American company.
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Of course they can. They'd just have to deal with the contractual penalty. Zuffa cannot enforce it in any other way.

Bellator is owned by Viacom. Do you really believe they wouldn't be able to afford Wand's penalty for breach of contract if they were to see such a move as being sound from a cost vs. profit perspective?
 
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