International Virus outbreak in China (and elsewhere)

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This virus is not as deadly as SARS, but more infectious. It's certainly much more serious than flu, unlike some have suggested.

Current death rate of 2% to 3% is achieved by China pouring massive amount of medical resources into confirmed cases. If that shit spread to country with weaker healthcare system, it's going to wreck havoc.
 
This virus is not as deadly as SARS, but more infectious. It's certainly much more serious than flu, unlike some have suggested.

Current death rate of 2% to 3% is achieved by China pouring massive amount of medical resources into confirmed cases. If that shit spread to country with weaker healthcare system, it's going to wreck havoc.

this is what people don’t get.... it’s 2-3% when people are getting round the clock care from dudes in hazmat suits. At the least you double that rate in less specific treatment environments. With the spread rate, could reach 100 million people could mean 5-6 million dead.
 
Vancouver airport is actually located in Richmond which has a little over 50% Chinese living there. Many are from Hong Kong though but not all.

Many line ups for masks.
 
Agreed, some have concerning mortality rates.

This one gives old and vulnerable people pneumonia, like the common cold and flu. Because they have compromised immune systems.

Even if the effects seem mild, it could have a major impact on the world if it's highly contagious. When countries start closing borders and limiting travel it starts to have a major effect.
 
Even if the effects seem mild, it could have a major impact on the world if it's highly contagious. When countries start closing borders and limiting travel it starts to have a major effect.
Thats the more legit concerns.
 
Vancouver airport is actually located in Richmond which has a little over 50% Chinese living there. Many are from Hong Kong though but not all.

Many line ups for masks.
I'm seeing more masks than usual around here. (Ottawa's Chinatown). A lot more.
 
Did the Chinese communist government already explain why they are closing entire cities with populations over 10 millions people, if this decease is not so serious? I would like to hear their explanations.
 
Did the Chinese communist government already explain why they are closing entire cities with populations over 10 millions people, if this decease is not so serious? I would like to hear their explanations.

dont ask questions. The media will tell you everything you are deemed worthy to know
 
The US should have already banned all flights from China. The virus can take up to two weeks to show itself, and is contagious during that period, so taking people's temperature's at airports isn't going to stop it from spreading. It's too easy to take a fever reducer and get past security in a lot of cases anyway. It's like we only have the choice to either downplay the potential seriousness of the virus, or go into full blown panic mode. There's middle ground where we can take some precautions and prepare ourselves without going into a panic, or hiding our heads in the sand. Hope for the best, and prepare for worst.

No one knows exactly how bad this virus is at the moment, or where it originated exactly, but everyone knows China can't be trusted and is most likely lying about the numbers they're releasing to some degree. Everyone should think about getting some food and water to store in case things get worse if you haven't already.

your racism is showing.

open borders! AOC BLESS!
 
All Americans evacuated from Wuhan will be quarantined for 72 hours at the March Air Reserve Base in Riverside, California. During this time, they will be "screened, monitored and evaluated".

Prior to landing, they underwent four screenings over the course of the journey - two before departure in Wuhan and another two during a refueling stop in Anchorage, Alaska.





America's 195 Wuhan evacuees are met on tarmac of California airbase by doctors in Hazmat suits as they undergo further coronavirus screenings and 72-hour quarantine before full repatriation



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...vacuated-Wuhan-diverted-military-airbase.html


The 72 hours quarantine is now extended to 2 weeks.

 
Canada preparing plane to fly Canadians from Wuhan amid coronavirus outbreak
By ALEX BALLINGALL | Jan. 29, 2020​

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Foreign Affairs Minister Francois-Philippe Champagne says the government has a plane preparing to fly Canadians out of Wuhan

OTTAWA—The federal government has chartered a plane but still needs China’s permission to fly Canadians out of that country’s coronavirus quarantine zone, Foreign Affairs Minister François-Philippe Champagne said Wednesday.

The evacuation is being planned as the impact of the deadly virus continues to be felt around the world. Airlines have cancelled scores of flights to China amid tight travel restrictions in the affected region, and Ottawa is urging all Canadians to avoid going to mainland China unless it is necessary.

By Wednesday afternoon, 160 Canadians had asked Ottawa to help get them out of Hubei province, where the novel strain of coronavirus emerged in late December and has infected almost 6,000 people.

As the death toll in China rises and the number of infections continues to climb, Canada is following other countries that have already moved their citizens from the quarantined area. Given the experience of the United States, which successfully removed more than 200 Americans on Wednesday, Champagne said it could take “several days” to receive China’s permission to send in a plane to repatriate Canadians stuck in the region.

Speaking outside the House of Commons, Champagne said the government still needs to sort out crucial details. That includes deciding whether to bring sick passengers back to Canada, and whether to follow other countries that have said they will quarantine their returning citizens for as long as two weeks.

“We have a plane secured, like the other nations, and now we’re working like the international community to get the landing permission and obviously the logistics,” Champagne said.

Following the American airlift, Japan chartered its own plane to carry more than 200 passengers from China to Tokyo and has reportedly sent a second plane to remove more of its citizens from Wuhan, the city where the outbreak reportedly began in late December.

New Zealand, the United Kingdom and France are among other countries planning to fly citizens home.

Health Minister Patty Hajdu said Wednesday that the government is looking to what other countries are doing to ensure the repatriation of citizens from China doesn’t increase the risk of the virus in Canada. Australia reportedly plans to quarantine returning citizens for 14 days — the length of time health experts believe it takes before infected people show symptoms of the virus — on Christmas Island, where the country detains incoming refugees and foreign nationals awaiting deportation. Britain has also said it will isolated citizens returning from Wuhan for 14 days.

Returning Americans were screened for the illness upon arrival in California and will reportedly be placed in temporary housing for an undetermined period of time.

Hajdu suggested Canada might do something similar.

“Part of the process now is figuring out exactly what our protocols will be when we return Canadians that wish to come home,” she said. “We’re working very closely with our U.S. counterparts who obviously have some experience in this and have set up some best practices, and we'll be following their lead very closely. And we'll have more to say as those processes unfold.”

Canadians stuck in China — as well as those with relatives in the region — have called on Ottawa to step in and get them out for several days. New Democrat MP Don Davies, the party’s health critic, said Wednesday that Ottawa should have moved quicker to evacuate Canadians from the region.

“Canada’s playing catch up,” said Davies, the NDP’s health critic. “While it’s a positive thing to see Canada now announce that they are going to get a plane ... it’s disappointing that it took this long and other countries to be ahead of us in order to do so.”

Champagne defended the timing, pointing out that only the U.S. and Japan have removed citizens so far.

“I will tell you Canada is at the forefront of the response,” he said. “I’ve talked to my counterparts, we’re in touch with everyone and I can assure you that the government of Canada is there to respond to this consular emergency that Canadians want there, and we will continue to do so. We’re using best practices.”

The vast majority of more than 6,000 confirmed cases of the infection are in China, with just 68 infections in other countries, including three so far in Canada, according to the World Health Organization. All of the 170 people who have died were in China.

Amid China’s efforts to clamp down on movement and stop the virus from spreading, Canada temporarily closed its visa application centres across China on Wednesday. Visa Facilitation Services, the private company that handles applications for travel visas to Canada at 11 centres across China, said all of its offices will be closed until at least Monday. It also cancelled all in-person appointments for visas that were scheduled before the end of January.

Meanwhile, Air Canada cancelled all of its flights to China as the federal government advises all Canadians to avoid non-essential travel to mainland China. The cancellations will take effect Thursday and the 33 flights per week to Beijing and Shanghai won’t resume until Feb. 29, the airline said Wednesday. British Airways and American Airlines have also cancelled flights to China.

In Toronto, public health officials confirmed the wife of the man who was the city’s first confirmed case also has the respiratory illness. Ontario’s health ministry also reported that 23 people are “under investigation” for the coronavirus, up from 19 people on Monday.

Dr. Eileen de villa, Toronto’s medical officer of health, said Wednesday that the cases in Toronto — as well as a presumptive third case in British Columbia — are “not unexpected,” given the frequent movement of people between Canada and China.

“In Canada, we’ve had three cases, they’re all connected to travel to Wuhan,” Dr. Theresa Tam, Canada’s chief public health officer, told the House of Commons health committee Wednesday afternoon.

“For sure, in the general population in Canada, the risk is low.”

https://www.thestar.com/amp/politic...ans-from-wuhan-amid-coronavirus-outbreak.html
 
UPDATE ON GENOME : a very intriguing new paper investigating the aforementioned mystery middle segment w/ “S” spike protein: likely origin from HIV. “Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag” from WHOA- the authors said the finding was “Unexpectedly” related to genes from HIV virus. Notably there were 4 gene insertions (see figure in above post #16). And so, which HIV gene proteins were found in the new #coronarvirus? Gag protein and Gp120- key HIV proteins.

Notably, in S , authors say for HIVinsertions: “Gag protein of HIV is involved in host membrane binding, packaging of the virus and for the formation of virus-like particles. Gp120 plays crucial role in recognizing the host cell by binding to the primary receptor CD4”

Again, these are new express published findings and not peer reviewed yet. Let’s not draw conclusions yet. But evidence suggest that 2 different HIV genes are present in the #coronarvirus S gene region (that didn’t map to any other coronavirus, according to other studies).

Further the authors add that “This indicates that these insertions have been preferably acquired by the 2019-nCoV, providing it with additional survival and infectivity advantage. Delving deeper we found that these insertions were similar to HIV-1.”

Paper piles on: “these insertions are present at binding site of 2019-nCoV. Due to presence of gp120 motifs in 2019-nCoV spike glycoprotein at its binding domain, we propose that these motif insertions could have provided an enhanced affinity towards host cell receptors.”

The authors dunked this final conclusion: “This uncanny similarity of novel inserts in the 2019- nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag is unlikely to be fortuitous”.

 
How do you say asshole in chinese?
 
UPDATE ON GENOME : a very intriguing new paper investigating the aforementioned mystery middle segment w/ “S” spike protein: likely origin from HIV. “Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag” from WHOA- the authors said the finding was “Unexpectedly” related to genes from HIV virus. Notably there were 4 gene insertions (see figure in above post #16). And so, which HIV gene proteins were found in the new #coronarvirus? Gag protein and Gp120- key HIV proteins.

Notably, in S , authors say for HIVinsertions: “Gag protein of HIV is involved in host membrane binding, packaging of the virus and for the formation of virus-like particles. Gp120 plays crucial role in recognizing the host cell by binding to the primary receptor CD4”

Again, these are new express published findings and not peer reviewed yet. Let’s not draw conclusions yet. But evidence suggest that 2 different HIV genes are present in the #coronarvirus S gene region (that didn’t map to any other coronavirus, according to other studies).

Further the authors add that “This indicates that these insertions have been preferably acquired by the 2019-nCoV, providing it with additional survival and infectivity advantage. Delving deeper we found that these insertions were similar to HIV-1.”

Paper piles on: “these insertions are present at binding site of 2019-nCoV. Due to presence of gp120 motifs in 2019-nCoV spike glycoprotein at its binding domain, we propose that these motif insertions could have provided an enhanced affinity towards host cell receptors.”

The authors dunked this final conclusion: “This uncanny similarity of novel inserts in the 2019- nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag is unlikely to be fortuitous”.



I just know some people on WeChat gonna look at this and starts making rumors that HIV can now be transmitted by sneezing.
 
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