International Virus outbreak in China (and elsewhere)

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Adjusts tin foil hat.

You think it's possible that some idiot from one of the two level 4 biosafety labs in Wuhan made a big oopsie, leaked a possible bioweapon, and now the Chinese government is trying to cover it up?

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I'd be lying if I said no.
 
Canada preparing plane to fly Canadians from Wuhan amid coronavirus outbreak
By ALEX BALLINGALL | Jan. 29, 2020​

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Foreign Affairs Minister Francois-Philippe Champagne says the government has a plane preparing to fly Canadians out of Wuhan

OTTAWA—The federal government has chartered a plane but still needs China’s permission to fly Canadians out of that country’s coronavirus quarantine zone, Foreign Affairs Minister François-Philippe Champagne said Wednesday.

The evacuation is being planned as the impact of the deadly virus continues to be felt around the world. Airlines have cancelled scores of flights to China amid tight travel restrictions in the affected region, and Ottawa is urging all Canadians to avoid going to mainland China unless it is necessary.

By Wednesday afternoon, 160 Canadians had asked Ottawa to help get them out of Hubei province, where the novel strain of coronavirus emerged in late December and has infected almost 6,000 people.

As the death toll in China rises and the number of infections continues to climb, Canada is following other countries that have already moved their citizens from the quarantined area. Given the experience of the United States, which successfully removed more than 200 Americans on Wednesday, Champagne said it could take “several days” to receive China’s permission to send in a plane to repatriate Canadians stuck in the region.

Speaking outside the House of Commons, Champagne said the government still needs to sort out crucial details. That includes deciding whether to bring sick passengers back to Canada, and whether to follow other countries that have said they will quarantine their returning citizens for as long as two weeks.

“We have a plane secured, like the other nations, and now we’re working like the international community to get the landing permission and obviously the logistics,” Champagne said.

Following the American airlift, Japan chartered its own plane to carry more than 200 passengers from China to Tokyo and has reportedly sent a second plane to remove more of its citizens from Wuhan, the city where the outbreak reportedly began in late December.

New Zealand, the United Kingdom and France are among other countries planning to fly citizens home.

Health Minister Patty Hajdu said Wednesday that the government is looking to what other countries are doing to ensure the repatriation of citizens from China doesn’t increase the risk of the virus in Canada. Australia reportedly plans to quarantine returning citizens for 14 days — the length of time health experts believe it takes before infected people show symptoms of the virus — on Christmas Island, where the country detains incoming refugees and foreign nationals awaiting deportation. Britain has also said it will isolated citizens returning from Wuhan for 14 days.

Returning Americans were screened for the illness upon arrival in California and will reportedly be placed in temporary housing for an undetermined period of time.

Hajdu suggested Canada might do something similar.

“Part of the process now is figuring out exactly what our protocols will be when we return Canadians that wish to come home,” she said. “We’re working very closely with our U.S. counterparts who obviously have some experience in this and have set up some best practices, and we'll be following their lead very closely. And we'll have more to say as those processes unfold.”

Canadians stuck in China — as well as those with relatives in the region — have called on Ottawa to step in and get them out for several days. New Democrat MP Don Davies, the party’s health critic, said Wednesday that Ottawa should have moved quicker to evacuate Canadians from the region.

“Canada’s playing catch up,” said Davies, the NDP’s health critic. “While it’s a positive thing to see Canada now announce that they are going to get a plane ... it’s disappointing that it took this long and other countries to be ahead of us in order to do so.”

Champagne defended the timing, pointing out that only the U.S. and Japan have removed citizens so far.

“I will tell you Canada is at the forefront of the response,” he said. “I’ve talked to my counterparts, we’re in touch with everyone and I can assure you that the government of Canada is there to respond to this consular emergency that Canadians want there, and we will continue to do so. We’re using best practices.”

The vast majority of more than 6,000 confirmed cases of the infection are in China, with just 68 infections in other countries, including three so far in Canada, according to the World Health Organization. All of the 170 people who have died were in China.

Amid China’s efforts to clamp down on movement and stop the virus from spreading, Canada temporarily closed its visa application centres across China on Wednesday. Visa Facilitation Services, the private company that handles applications for travel visas to Canada at 11 centres across China, said all of its offices will be closed until at least Monday. It also cancelled all in-person appointments for visas that were scheduled before the end of January.

Meanwhile, Air Canada cancelled all of its flights to China as the federal government advises all Canadians to avoid non-essential travel to mainland China. The cancellations will take effect Thursday and the 33 flights per week to Beijing and Shanghai won’t resume until Feb. 29, the airline said Wednesday. British Airways and American Airlines have also cancelled flights to China.

In Toronto, public health officials confirmed the wife of the man who was the city’s first confirmed case also has the respiratory illness. Ontario’s health ministry also reported that 23 people are “under investigation” for the coronavirus, up from 19 people on Monday.

Dr. Eileen de villa, Toronto’s medical officer of health, said Wednesday that the cases in Toronto — as well as a presumptive third case in British Columbia — are “not unexpected,” given the frequent movement of people between Canada and China.

“In Canada, we’ve had three cases, they’re all connected to travel to Wuhan,” Dr. Theresa Tam, Canada’s chief public health officer, told the House of Commons health committee Wednesday afternoon.

“For sure, in the general population in Canada, the risk is low.”

https://www.thestar.com/amp/politic...ans-from-wuhan-amid-coronavirus-outbreak.html

Quarantining a Canadian city over coronavirus would be illegal
By Liam Casey, The Canadian Press

Placing an entire city under quarantine to prevent the spread of a virus is inconceivable, unenforceable and ineffective — and in Canada would be against the law, experts say.

Steven Hoffman, a professor of global health, law and political science at York University, said he was shocked when he heard China had shut down Wuhan, a city of 11 million people that is the epicentre of a new coronavirus outbreak.

“It’s totally unprecedented in public health,” Hoffman said. “It reminds me of what we might see in movies.”

The virus, which is from the same family of viruses that cause the common cold, has so far sickened more than 800 in China and killed at least 25. Other countries, including the United States, have reported cases of the illness in recent days.

Canadian public health officials have said several people in two provinces — Quebec and British Columbia — are under observation for signs they may have contracted a coronavirus from China, but no confirmed cases have been reported.

Wuhan and the nearby cities of Huanggang and Ezhou — home to a total of 18 million people — were locked down on Thursday in an unprecedented effort to contain the deadly new virus.

Hoffman said such an extreme quarantine measure would never occur in Canada for a number of reasons.

“In Canada, such a broad, unspecific quarantine measure like this would certainly violate our Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms because it would be a restriction on people’s rights that are not justifiable,” he said. “In the Canadian context, it’s inconceivable.”

He pointed to the federal Quarantine Act that gives the government the authority to isolate someone who is a risk to the public.

During the SARS outbreak, which killed 44 people in Canada 17 years ago, those who had the illness were quarantined in health-care facilities, Hoffman said, while those who came in direct contact with an infected person were in quarantine at their homes.

Plus, travel bans do not work, he said, because people who want to get out will find a way, which undermines the whole idea of a quarantine.

“But from a scientific perspective, the travel ban in China is really intriguing,” he said. “If people are compliant and if there’s way to enforce it and to provide food to 20 million people, maybe it could work — I guess we’ll find out soon.”

Daniel Kollek, an emergency physician and a professor at McMaster University with a focus on disaster response research, scoffed at the idea of overarching travel bans, be it in China or Canada.

“People are shedding the virus before they’re sick — this is after the horse has bolted,” he said. “If you truly have contained everyone with illness and lock them down, you can shut it off. But that’s not feasible, so this kind of isolation doesn’t have any value.”

One of the challenges provinces such as Ontario would be faced with in the case of an outbreak is hospital overcrowding, he said.

“Hospitals are overcrowded, emergency departments are overcrowded and we can’t get people into isolation rooms because they’re already occupied,” he said. “If you can’t isolate a patient, then the risk of communicating disease to other people is obviously higher.”

But Ontario’s Minister of Health Christine Elliott said current overcrowding in hospitals won’t be an issue.

“We have specific measures that will be in place,” Elliott said. “Anyone who is being tested in the future will be placed in isolation and that staff will be given the necessary protective equipment.”

Dr. Barbara Yaffe, Ontario’s associate chief medical officer of health, said they’ll be focused on both quarantine, should someone be infected with the coronavirus, and active surveillance, which means the local public health unit checks in with those who may have been exposed every day.

“With SARS our lessons learned were that full quarantine wasn’t really that necessary, it was more active surveillance is what we ended up doing toward the end and making sure the person doesn’t spread it any further,” she said.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6453641/coronavirus-quarantine-illegal-canada/amp/
 
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Now we are all getting the aids.

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Must be genetic too because they all look like that dipshit lol.
Iv'e noticed that over the years. I can pretty much just look at someone and know their political affiliation. Not just clothes. It's a vibe they give off.
 
How bad was sars, really? 774 deaths seems like not that much for the amount of people exposed to it?
Sars is more deadly than Coronavirus. However, Coronavirus has a greater capacity to spread. It seems to be a bio weapon that was taken from Canada & brought to Wuhan. From there it was either released or escaped.
 
so that "new hospital" in Wuhan they are buildling.

there is rumors that is actually a mass grave.
Lol why build buildings then , you really think China couldn't dig some big holes out in the country side on the sly ?

 
Iv'e noticed that over the years. I can pretty much just look at someone and know their political affiliation. Not just clothes. It's a vibe they give off.
Lol , no , no you can't
 
Sars is more deadly than Coronavirus. However, Coronavirus has a greater capacity to spread. It seems to be a bio weapon that was taken from Canada & brought to Wuhan. From there it was either released or escaped.
Got a source on this ?
 
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Lol , no , no you can't
Read it again. Yes I can. It's really not that difficult. Pattern recognition is easy for higher IQ people. I understand if this ability seems like magic to you though.
 
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Read it again. Yes I can. It's really not that difficult. Pattern recognition is easy for higher IQ people. I understand if this ability seems like magic to you though.
Sure , cause of the vibe they give off
 
Shit's getting scary.

R is currently estimated to be 4.08. It's not really accurate but possibly the best information we have atm on just how much it can spread. Previously it was estimated to be around 2-3.

 
Got a source on this ?

Russian media is running a claim that the US did this.

Just like many of our media outlets are claiming this escaped out one of China's bio facilities in Wuhan.

Kind of concerning that both sides seem to be claiming this came out of a lab.
 
Shit's getting scary.

R is currently estimated to be 4.08. It's not really accurate but possibly the best information we have atm on just how much it can spread. Previously it was estimated to be around 2-3.




Yeah dude, I'm convinced this is the biggest story of our lifetimes thus far, and it just isn't being reported yet.
 
This weekend is a good weekend to review your current state of dry food that you can stretch and make sure you have at least the very basic stuff available so you can self treat. Should already have this anyway but if you haven't do it now.
 
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