Usyk lacked a punch at cruiser weight.

[eternaldarkness]

Some of your posts about Lomachenko are seriously like trolling level stupid

Just because you don't understand what your watching, it doesn't make Loma a good counter puncher. I recommend you take off those rose coloured glasses and watch him fight again. A good pro doesn't avoid more than two or three shots before throwing a counter. I you want to watch a truly classy pro boxer, that boxes well going forwards and backwards watch Lionel rose.

 

[eternaldarkness]

But yet you're spending more effort trying to convince everyone that certain boxers suck than anyone is fanboying


It's getting kind of absurd

Stop smoking pole. @Seano doesn't go out of his way to can on any boxer. That's my thing, and I only do that because certain fighters fan girls attacked me over giving valid criticism. Also no one is saying anybody sucks, just that fans rate certain fighters a bit too highly.

 

[Yacob]

Just because you don't understand what your watching, it doesn't make Loma a good counter puncher. I recommend you take off those rose coloured glasses and watch him fight again. A good pro doesn't avoid more than two or three shots before throwing a counter. I you want to watch a truly classy pro boxer, that boxes well going forwards and backwards watch Lionel rose.

You mask not understanding what you're watching by giving us imaginary scouting reports of people who fought 300 years ago. People who have like 30 seconds of tape but you act like you were there....it's sort of incredible to watch you believe your own bullshit

But yeah the rest of us don't get it. Right.

Stop smoking pole. @Seano doesn't go out of his way to can on any boxer. That's my thing, and I only do that because certain fighters fan girls attacked me over giving valid criticism. Also no one is saying anybody sucks, just that fans rate certain fighters a bit too highly.

It's both of your things. And it's dumb as hell.

I'm technically playing into it now so congratulations on that but somebody has to say it to you two tards

 

[eternaldarkness]

You mask not understanding what you're watching by giving us imaginary scouting reports of people who fought 300 years ago. People who have like 30 seconds of tape but you act like you were there....it's sort of incredible to watch you believe your own bullshit

But yeah the rest of us don't get it. Right.


It's both of your things. And it's dumb as hell.

I'm technically playing into it now so congratulations on that but somebody has to say it to you two tards

Look killer, you can watch some of roses fights in their complete version. How long have you boxed anyhow. Because I'm not really sure you know what your watching. Please explain what I'm not understanding. Are you saying that uysk is a great puncher and Loma is deadly on the back foot?......

 

[Yacob]

Look killer, you can watch some of roses fights in their complete version. How long have you boxed anyhow. Because I'm not really sure you know what your watching. Please explain what I'm not understanding. A you saying that uysk is a great puncher and Loma is deadly on the back foot?......

Your grammar is as basic as your knowledge of fighting.

You're creating arguments that i never commented on....but even those arguments are legitimately like middle school kid type of talks "oosik hits herd" "lerma a kounter punchar" like those are your examples of understanding this shit? Lol

 

[Yacob]

It's like you purposefully act like the typical shertard memes...but you're probably serious

 

[eternaldarkness]

It's like you purposefully act like the typical shertard memes...but you're probably serious

Dead serious. Usyk lacks punch as a heavyweight and Loma is dreadful on the back foot. It's not my fault that you don't know what a decent counter puncher looks like. Just so you can improve on that limited boxing knowledge of yours, I recommend you watch jersey Joe Walcott, one of the best counter punchers ever. If you can't handle watching the old timers, I recommend Crawford, at least he knows how to punch off the back foot. Canelo is also a solid counter puncher, especially with the body shots.

 

[eternaldarkness]

Your grammar is as basic as your knowledge of fighting.

You're creating arguments that i never commented on....but even those arguments are legitimately like middle school kid type of talks "oosik hits herd" "lerma a kounter punchar" like those are your examples of understanding this shit? Lol

Are the ol' English language teacher, best comeback ever.

 

[RabbitPunch36]

You mask not understanding what you're watching by giving us imaginary scouting reports of people who fought 300 years ago. People who have like 30 seconds of tape but you act like you were there....it's sort of incredible to watch you believe your own bullshit

But yeah the rest of us don't get it. Right.


It's both of your things. And it's dumb as hell.

I'm technically playing into it now so congratulations on that but somebody has to say it to you two tards

I agree @eternaldarkness is very ham fisted in his exaggerated analysis of fighters he doesn't like but his statements do have a hint of truth. Loma is a decent counterpuncher (he has plenty of room to grow as a fighter) but is nowhere near Marquez, SRR, Arguello, insert other legends. By the way Lionel Rose has hours of decent footage againest great fighters on youtube.

 

[eternaldarkness]

I agree @eternaldarkness is very ham fisted in his exaggerated analysis of fighters he doesn't like but his statements do have a hint of truth. Loma is a decent counterpuncher (he has plenty of room to grow as a fighter) but is nowhere near Marquez, SRR, Arguello, insert other legends. By the way Lionel Rose has hours of decent footage againest great fighters on youtube.

I just can't help but to rip Loma fans a bit. All time great, me eye. When I'm not taking the piss I will freely admit that Loma is an offensive artist, and a nightmare for skilful boxers that don't like wasting shots. I just doubt his abilities against an aggressive puncher with power and cardio. I think a fighter like porter would chew Loma up, not to mention someone like Duran.

 

[Yacob]

I just can't help but to rip Loma fans a bit. All time great, me eye. When I'm not taking the piss I will freely admit that Loma is an offensive artist, and a nightmare for skilful boxers that don't like wasting shots. I just doubt his abilities against an aggressive puncher with power and cardio. I think a fighter like porter would chew Loma up, not to mention someone like Duran.

I think Duran would be too strong and aggressive BUT


Bro. I'm not even specifically giving you grief about the counter punching or any one single argument. It's that you just spend so much goddamn time pushing back against what has become a completely non existent enemy. I'm not even defending Lomachenko. I don't care either way. I usually like to make little comments like the other day when i said sherdoggers will say he was always overrated after losing a 2nd time

Point is....just let this shit ride. You're literally doing what you hate by pushing back....political people pretty much exclusively do that which is why no good discussion takes place

I appreciate that you obviously read about boxing history and you like the old boxers a lot...my idols are Walcott and Jack Johnson. They're like in those cartoons, Joe is the good guy family man on the right shoulder and Jack was the guy saying "money, fame, bitches, fast cars" on the left. I like talking about boxing with you. But this prototypical shertard thread overreacting and pushing back on what you claim to hate is just too much to not call you out on

Good friends are honest with eachother bro

 

[eternaldarkness]

I think Duran would be too strong and aggressive BUT


Bro. I'm not even specifically giving you grief about the counter punching or any one single argument. It's that you just spend so much goddamn time pushing back against what has become a completely non existent enemy. I'm not even defending Lomachenko. I don't care either way. I usually like to make little comments like the other day when i said sherdoggers will say he was always overrated after losing a 2nd time

Point is....just let this shit ride. You're literally doing what you hate by pushing back....political people pretty much exclusively do that which is why no good discussion takes place

I appreciate that you obviously read about boxing history and you like the old boxers a lot...my idols are Walcott and Jack Johnson. They're like in those cartoons, Joe is the good guy family man on the right shoulder and Jack was the guy saying "money, fame, bitches, fast cars" on the left. I like talking about boxing with you. But this prototypical shertard thread overreacting and pushing back on what you claim to hate is just too much to not call you out on

Good friends are honest with eachother bro

Sometimes I just get bored and like to fight. And sometimes i just like bucking the status quo.

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

You don't muscle up in boxing and maintain your punch. Old school trainers hated muscle bound fighters.

Holyfield was on Rogan's podcast recently and said all the negative shit old school trainers believed about weight lifting are silly myths and he's glad his coach wasn't that close minded.
Interestingly, he also brought a ballet instructor for stretching sessions.

 

[Hagler]

Interestingly, he also brought a ballet instructor for stretching sessions.

And it fucking showed.

 

[Sonxy]

Almost everyone was surprised that he couldn't hurt Witherspoon. Even people aware of his lack of power.

That may be true.
I generally just dont really like if you(people in general) are talking of "people" or "almost everyone".
If you have something to say, talk about what you think or quote other people.

I am not surprised that Usyk has not much power. I am maybe a little disapointed as I was hoping for more as I do when I like a fighter, but its not normal that you move up in weight and start hitting harder all of a sudden. And Usyk won by stoppage, I know, not by knockout.
Usyk not being able to punch hard enough may be a problem in future fights, sure.

 

[aries]

Some of your posts about Lomachenko are seriously like trolling level stupid

Nah he is trolling. He admits that he's wrong in some cases so it's obvious he's doing it for a rise.

 

[aries]

Dead serious. Usyk lacks punch as a heavyweight and Loma is dreadful on the back foot. It's not my fault that you don't know what a decent counter puncher looks like. Just so you can improve on that limited boxing knowledge of yours, I recommend you watch jersey Joe Walcott, one of the best counter punchers ever. If you can't handle watching the old timers, I recommend Crawford, at least he knows how to punch off the back foot. Canelo is also a solid counter puncher, especially with the body shots.

I already shot you down on this Loma can't counterpunch shit. I showed you clip after clip of Loma countering the shit out of Gary Russell and you even admitted that you were wrong. But I guess that slipped you mind......

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Usyk throws lighter by design even when he realistically should be throwing harder shots. It would be a simple adjustment for him to make by sitting on them much more often (especially when he has an opponent on the ropes or cornered) and actually snapping his punches while driving through the target.

For example, the shots below should be heavy. His man is cornered and just covering up so he's able to freely pick his shots and unload with fight-ending power punches. Yet, that isn't what happens.

 

[PUO3]

The rest of the division lacks boxing.

Hell be fine.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Julian "J-Rock" Williams' trainer (Stephen "Breadman" Edwards) on Usyk's punching technique

He throws STICK punches, which are shots that don’t snap all the way through the target. They aren’t meant for KOs just to score. Usyk rarely gets countered because of that.

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