Crime Use it in a Sentence (special counsel thread v. 25)

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MikeMcMann said:
Clinton Whitewater ended up a consensual BJ with an intern.

The scope goes wherever the investigation leads and whatever it digs up. That is how it works.
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Why was the investigation started to begin with? What evidence was there a crime had been committed and what was the probably cause that Trump and his admin were responsible?

Furthermore this evidence was so strong that the scope of the investigation was left completely open and with no time constraint. How that is in line with the 4th?

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
 
So

Does something happen if the media decides not to cover it
 
lol

Hans Anatol von Spakovsky (born March 11, 1959) is an American attorney and a former member of the Federal Election Commission (FEC). He is the manager of the Heritage Foundation's Election Law Reform Initiative and a senior legal fellow in Heritage's Meese Center for Legal and Judicial Studies.[1] He is an advocate for more restrictive voting laws.[2][3] He has been described as playing an influential role in making alarmism about voter fraud mainstream in the Republican Party, despite no evidence of widespread voter fraud.[4][5]

He was nominated to the FEC by President George W. Bush on December 15, 2005, and was appointed by recess appointment on January 4, 2006.[6] However, von Spakovsky's nomination was opposed by Senate Democrats, who argued that his oversight of voter laws was unacceptably partisan and that he had consistently acted to disenfranchise poor and minority voters.[7][8] Opposition to the nomination was bolstered by objections from career Justice Department staff, who accused von Spakovsky of politicizing his nominally non-partisan office to an unprecedented degree.[9] While von Spakovsky and the Bush Administration denied the accusations of partisanship, the nomination was withdrawn on May 15, 2008.[10] Von Spakovsky subsequently joined the staff of the Heritage Foundation, a politically conservative think tank. On June 29, 2017, President Donald J. Trump named him to be a member of the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity.[11]

On February 22, 2017, Von Spakovsky sent an email arguing against the appointment of Democrats and "mainstream Republicans" to the Trump administration's Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity.[15] The email was forwarded to U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions by an aide.[15] The release of the email led civil rights leaders to call for Von Spakovsky to step down from the commission and for the commission to be disbanded.[16]

Von Spakovsky has supported his claims about the extent of voter fraud by citing a 2000 investigation by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, which purported to find 5400 instances of deceased people in Georgia voting in the last two decades.[5] The Journal-Constitution later revised its findings, noting that it had no evidence of a single deceased person voting and that the vast majority of the instances were due to clerical errors.[5]

In a court decision, Fish v. Kobach, US District Court Judge Julie A. Robinson ruled that von Spakovsky's claims of widespread voter fraud were not in fact found to be backed up with provable researched cases. Judge Robinson wrote that she gave his testimony little weight because it was "premised on several misleading and unsupported examples of non-citizen voter registration, mostly outside the State of Kansas."
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This just in: raging partisan, known liar, and appointee of Donald Trump says Donald Trump did nothing wrong.
 
JamesRussler said:
You're counting county-level shit dude. There are tens of thousands of those seats nationwide. That's pathetic to bring up as a talking point.
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And yet the righties creamed their pampers for every seat they gained on any level, for years.
 
Seaside said:
Mueller is trying to find unrelated stuff and tie it to Trump. And get him and all his supporters removed on the basis of weak links or fabricated ones. Cheating on taxes and few things of a few guys means nothing.
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Translation, DEEP STATE.

You idiots should just say that you're tin foiler deep staters and move on.
 
HereticBD said:
And even if they did...

We're talking about some red tape nonsense. Sorry Libs, some undisclosed money to a few women ain't gonna cut it. It's a fine at best.
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I'm glad you take the word of a bunch of hack Trump whores, but Mueller and his team don't give a dusty fuck about what some Canadian who doesn't know shit about dick pertaining to US law thinks.
 
hillelslovak87 said:
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glenwo2 said:
VON SPAKOVSKY: Cohen and Trump didn't violate campaign finance law

Those hoping the president’s former personal attorney, Michael Cohen, will provide the evidence needed to impeach the president and perhaps even “lock him up” are likely headed for a bitter disappointment. The Cohen guilty pleas are likely irrelevant to the fate of President Trump.

That’s because – as someone who served for two years as a member of the Federal Election Commission – the campaign finance law violations that Cohen pleaded guilty to committing, allegedly at Donald Trump’s direction, aren’t really violations.

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Cohen was sentenced to three years in prison by a federal judge and was also ordered to pay almost $2 million in fines, restitution and forfeitures after earlier pleading guilty to multiple counts of business and tax fraud. Those crimes have absolutely nothing to do with Trump, but rather involve Cohen’s own business dealings.

In addition, Cohen was sentenced on his guilty pleas to violating campaign finance law on Trump’s behalf – an action that, as I will explain, was not really a crime at all.

And finally, Cohen’s sentence included punishment for his guilty plea to making false statements to Congress regarding failed efforts to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.

The applicable federal sentencing guidelines for the crimes Cohen pleaded guilty to call for a prison sentence ranging from just over four years to just over five years.

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Many campaign finance law experts and fellow former commissioners of the Federal Election Commission agree with me that Cohen’s did not commit an actual violation of federal law.

Cohen has stated he arranged hush-money payments to two women – adult-film actress Stormy Daniels and Playboy model Karen McDougal – to not make public their unproven allegations of extramarital affairs with Donald Trump years ago. Trump has denied the allegations.

As a former Federal Election Commission member that such payments were not “campaign-related” – and therefore the rules and regulations governing campaign contributions don’t apply.

In fact, the only time the Justice Department has ever tried to make such a claim before – against former Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina – the Justice Department lost.

Furthermore, the Federal Election Commission – an independent federal agency responsible for civil enforcement of campaign finance law – didn’t consider the hush-money donations to the Edwards campaign to be campaign-related expenditures when it audited the Edwards campaign.

The bottom line: Cohen was “persuaded” to plead guilty to an action that was not an actual violation of the law.

Convicting Donald Trump of a criminal campaign finance violation will be extremely difficult, if not impossible. Just as Edwards was found not guilty, the same is likely to happen to President Trump if he is charged while he is president or after he leaves the White House.

As for the claim the hush-money payments would be an impeachable offense, members of Congress would have to explain why prior cases in which campaigns like that of Barack Obama paid civil penalties to the Federal Election Commission for violations of federal campaign finance law were not grounds for impeachment.

It certainly is possible that Cohen and others have provided some kind of evidence to Mueller that will prove that the Trump campaign somehow colluded with Russian officials. But if so, this evidence has not yet been publicly revealed.

In sentencing Cohen, U.S. District Judge William H. Pauley agreed with the prosecution’s claims that Cohen was motivated by “personal greed and ambition.”

But nothing in the charges Cohen pleaded guilty to provides any evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russian government to affect the outcome of the 2016 election, or that Trump violated campaign finance law. And even Trump’s bitterest opponents don’t claim he had any role in Cohen’s taxi business.

So while the headlines blare and Trump opponents line up on TV to say the Cohen plea could mean future criminal charges against President Trump and serve as grounds for impeachment, don’t be so sure.


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Awaiting the arrival of the Liberal-clown car. Yay.
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Don't you have everyone else on the board on your ignore list by now princess?
 
So did the reporters uncover who it was that was fighting his/her subpoena in court today?
 
hillelslovak87 said:
Another stupid fuckin Glen thread where he posts a wall of shit, and STILL can't learn to use a spoiler. Not only does he ignore everyone like a bitch, this shit too.
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This is what we were discussing earlier. There are many more expert people who believe these were not violations and felonies, or at least are not clear-cut as we would falsely assume.

Good article.
 
hillelslovak87 said:
I'm glad you take the word of a bunch of hack Trump whores, but Mueller and his team don't give a dusty fuck about what some Canadian who doesn't know shit about dick pertaining to US law thinks.
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Damn, you seem really invested in this
 
grizzard2bid said:
This is what we were discussing earlier. There are many more expert people who believe these were not violations and felonies, or at least are not clear-cut as we would falsely assume.

Good article.
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Spakovksy is a partisan hack. Good article? pfft.
 
Trotsky said:
This just in: raging partisan, known liar, and appointee of Donald Trump says Donald Trump did nothing wrong.
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hillelslovak87 said:
Spakovksy is a partisan hack. Good article? pfft.
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Well, he's a lawyer and was in charge of that area of government. I'm sure he has his biases, but if he can make a case for acquitting Trump, so can a good defense lawyer(lol and I'm not sure I mean Rudy Giuliani ). Can you imagine Rudy defending Don in court. Thing would be comedic gold.
 
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