Crime Use it in a Sentence (special counsel thread v. 25)

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Flynn and manafort need to be pardoned. This is a witch hunt. Its so obvious. The goal is to take down the Trump organization, his cabinet, Republican party, and now the NRA and all Trump advisors and Trump himself. Its akin to a coup

Exactly this.

As I believe Mark Levin would say, it is punishing political opponents with the full force of the FBI and corrupt elements of the DOJ and CIA.
 
Besides the criminal charges he pled guilty to?

Did you read the OP? Do you understand why the judged ordered a document release? Do you understand an original 302 form from Flynn's interview is missing and why that is relevant?

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He (Trump) didn't cheat on any taxes. That would have been "leaked" prior to the elections, the Obama/Clinton friendly IRS brass was looking, you can believe that. So that is not a concern.
I'm sure he'll show us like he promised to, instead of just telling us like he's done so far.

Or maybe his promise was just another lie
 
Winning the popular vote by 9 million as the dems did in the midterms is historic. Restored my faith in our cousins to the south quiet a bit. We're derailing here now I think.

Funny how the popular vote increases as the population increases. Anyway, It’s all kids of illegal aliens in border states.
 
Didn't the GOP lose over 300 seats at multiple levels as well? I kept hearing about Obama's term seeing over 1000 lost seats, yet if this rate kept up, Trump would eclipse Obama by a good deal.....

You haven’t really thought your post through, so I’m gonna let this one pass.
 
I'm sure he'll show us like he promised to, instead of just telling us like he's done so far.

Or maybe his promise was just another lie

I doubt he releases them voluntarily at this point. He likes pissing the left off.
 
no

also obama paid rev wright 250k to not talk during his election
Obama should be tried for treason after droning that American citizen.

Unlike yall mother fuckers I don't play that partisan bullshit
 
I doubt he releases them voluntarily at this point. He likes pissing the left off.
Almost as much as he does lying about every conceivable subject

These are crazy times we're living through my sherbros.
We're all gonna want to remember these events.
 
VON SPAKOVSKY: Cohen and Trump didn't violate campaign finance law

Those hoping the president’s former personal attorney, Michael Cohen, will provide the evidence needed to impeach the president and perhaps even “lock him up” are likely headed for a bitter disappointment. The Cohen guilty pleas are likely irrelevant to the fate of President Trump.

That’s because – as someone who served for two years as a member of the Federal Election Commission – the campaign finance law violations that Cohen pleaded guilty to committing, allegedly at Donald Trump’s direction, aren’t really violations.

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Cohen was sentenced to three years in prison by a federal judge and was also ordered to pay almost $2 million in fines, restitution and forfeitures after earlier pleading guilty to multiple counts of business and tax fraud. Those crimes have absolutely nothing to do with Trump, but rather involve Cohen’s own business dealings.

In addition, Cohen was sentenced on his guilty pleas to violating campaign finance law on Trump’s behalf – an action that, as I will explain, was not really a crime at all.

And finally, Cohen’s sentence included punishment for his guilty plea to making false statements to Congress regarding failed efforts to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.

The applicable federal sentencing guidelines for the crimes Cohen pleaded guilty to call for a prison sentence ranging from just over four years to just over five years.

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Many campaign finance law experts and fellow former commissioners of the Federal Election Commission agree with me that Cohen’s did not commit an actual violation of federal law.

Cohen has stated he arranged hush-money payments to two women – adult-film actress Stormy Daniels and Playboy model Karen McDougal – to not make public their unproven allegations of extramarital affairs with Donald Trump years ago. Trump has denied the allegations.

As a former Federal Election Commission member that such payments were not “campaign-related” – and therefore the rules and regulations governing campaign contributions don’t apply.

In fact, the only time the Justice Department has ever tried to make such a claim before – against former Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina – the Justice Department lost.

Furthermore, the Federal Election Commission – an independent federal agency responsible for civil enforcement of campaign finance law – didn’t consider the hush-money donations to the Edwards campaign to be campaign-related expenditures when it audited the Edwards campaign.

The bottom line: Cohen was “persuaded” to plead guilty to an action that was not an actual violation of the law.

Convicting Donald Trump of a criminal campaign finance violation will be extremely difficult, if not impossible. Just as Edwards was found not guilty, the same is likely to happen to President Trump if he is charged while he is president or after he leaves the White House.

As for the claim the hush-money payments would be an impeachable offense, members of Congress would have to explain why prior cases in which campaigns like that of Barack Obama paid civil penalties to the Federal Election Commission for violations of federal campaign finance law were not grounds for impeachment.

It certainly is possible that Cohen and others have provided some kind of evidence to Mueller that will prove that the Trump campaign somehow colluded with Russian officials. But if so, this evidence has not yet been publicly revealed.

In sentencing Cohen, U.S. District Judge William H. Pauley agreed with the prosecution’s claims that Cohen was motivated by “personal greed and ambition.”

But nothing in the charges Cohen pleaded guilty to provides any evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russian government to affect the outcome of the 2016 election, or that Trump violated campaign finance law. And even Trump’s bitterest opponents don’t claim he had any role in Cohen’s taxi business.

So while the headlines blare and Trump opponents line up on TV to say the Cohen plea could mean future criminal charges against President Trump and serve as grounds for impeachment, don’t be so sure.



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Awaiting the arrival of the Liberal-clown car. Yay.

well duh. The whole investigation is largely a witch hunt. The goal is to take down Trump, republicans, the NRA, and all of Trump´s advisors and his cabinet and the Trump organization.
 
Nah, it was about Trump colluding with Russia to get elected. Remember? I'd say nice try, but it really wasn't.
The goalposts have been moved so far, they're not even on the same field anymore.
You must be one of those gullible marks that fell hook line and sinker for it, right?
Nonsense. Trump has lied and told multiple stories about firing flynn and comey. There would be no Mueller investigation if it wasn't for his lies. Trump hasn't been truthful about any of this. He will continue to lie.
 
I'm don't really care either way, but it's pretty funny watching people defend someone using campaign funds to pay off his mistresses.
 
Another stupid fuckin Glen thread where he posts a wall of shit, and STILL can't learn to use a spoiler. Not only does he ignore everyone like a bitch, this shit too.
 
He (Trump) didn't cheat on any taxes. That would have been "leaked" prior to the elections, the Obama/Clinton friendly IRS brass was looking, you can believe that. So that is not a concern.

I was referring to Cohen
 
And even if they did...

We're talking about some red tape nonsense. Sorry Libs, some undisclosed money to a few women ain't gonna cut it. It's a fine at best.
 
It's rather hilarious watching the same posters who have been circle jerking over Trump going to jail for the last two years actually thinking that "this is it".

I wasn't around for the Hillary Benghazi shit. Was it as pathetic as this?
 
Obama should be tried for treason after droning that American citizen.

Unlike yall mother fuckers I don't play that partisan bullshit
Point being, there are no felonies
 
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