Media Umar ain't beating Merab he can't even defend a takedown from a collage wrestler

Not only did he never fight the guy, he never fought in that organization nor did he fight that calendar year lol.

Actually, upon further review, he didn't fight four guys on that list and only fought one guy from that list, and that guy didn't shoot takedowns lol. Going to have to edit my response
 
Those stats are wrong. He never fought Saimon oliveira, He never fough lezhnev, He never fought khaliev, he never fought Khousaev, and morozov didn't attempt to take him down, so not sure what the AI saw there.

Also, my main point was that we have a better idea of how merab deals with takedown threats, and I stand by that.

i can't believe my dude said "i'll look it up" and then posts a fucking ChatGPT prompt LMAO. i thought he was at least going to fight finder the stats or something, maybe fast forward through some old matches. not just ask ChatGPT like it's the authority on this shit LMAO. holy moly never change Sherdog lmao
 
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Outside of the UFC, Umar Nurmagomedov also maintained an impressive record for his takedown defense. Below are the details for his takedown defense in his non-UFC career, including his fights in organizations like Eagle Fighting Championship (EFC) and ACA (Absolute Championship Akhmat):

Umar Nurmagomedov - Takedown Defense (Outside UFC)

1. Umar Nurmagomedov vs. Khusein Khaliev (Eagle Fighting Championship 29 – May 27, 2016)​

  • Result: Win (Submission – Armbar)
  • Takedown Defense:100%
    • Opponent’s Takedown Attempts: 1 (0 successful)
    • Details: Umar defended a single takedown attempt early in the fight and controlled the action on the feet before transitioning to the submission for the win.

2. Umar Nurmagomedov vs. Dzhakha Khousaev (Eagle Fighting Championship 31 – May 20, 2017)​

  • Result: Win (Submission – Armbar)
  • Takedown Defense:100%
    • Opponent’s Takedown Attempts: 1 (0 successful)
    • Details: Umar kept the fight standing and showed off his submission skills once he secured the top position, while defending the takedown attempt with ease.

3. Umar Nurmagomedov vs. Andrey Lezhnev (Eagle Fighting Championship 32 – October 28, 2017)​

  • Result: Win (Submission – Guillotine Choke)
  • Takedown Defense:100%
    • Opponent’s Takedown Attempts: 2 (0 successful)
    • Details: Lezhnev’s attempts were unsuccessful as Umar’s takedown defense was on point. He controlled the pace and eventually secured a submission win in the second round.

4. Umar Nurmagomedov vs. Saimon Oliveira (ACA 107 – November 27, 2020)​

  • Result: Win (Unanimous Decision)
  • Takedown Defense:100%
    • Opponent’s Takedown Attempts: 1 (0 successful)
    • Details: Umar controlled the fight with striking and wrestling exchanges, stuffing Oliveira’s takedown attempt while keeping the fight standing or in advantageous positions on the ground.

5. Umar Nurmagomedov vs. Sergey Morozov (ACA 118 – February 21, 2021)​

  • Result: Win (Unanimous Decision)
  • Takedown Defense:100%
    • Opponent’s Takedown Attempts: 3 (0 successful)
    • Details: Morozov, known for his wrestling, couldn’t get Umar to the ground in this fight. Umar dominated with superior control and technique, defending every takedown attempt.

Summary of Takedown Defense (TDD%) Outside the UFC:

  • Total Takedown Attempts Against Umar (Outside UFC): 8
  • Takedowns Successfully Defended: 8
  • Takedown Defense Percentage: 100%

Analysis (Outside UFC):

Similar to his UFC performances, Umar Nurmagomedov displayed an incredible takedown defense rate outside the UFC as well, successfully defending every takedown attempt across multiple organizations. His defense was especially notable in his matches against opponents with strong wrestling backgrounds, including Sergey Morozov and Saimon Oliveira.
His ability to defend takedowns is a key part of his undefeated run, and he has shown the ability to keep opponents on the feet, where his pressure, striking, and ground control can take over.

Overall Takedown Defense Record (UFC + Outside UFC):

  • Total Takedown Attempts Against Umar: 15
  • Takedowns Successfully Defended: 15
  • Takedown Defense Percentage: 100%
Erm...you defaulting to this kind of tells me this is how you regularly use AI. I'm going to be blunt, you're using it very, very, incorrectly.

AI is wrong VERY often about these types of things, it is not google.
 
And Sean was stuffing Merab's takedowns with a frking torn labrum lol.
 
Dagestan haters digging through ancient training videos looking for the smoking gun on how Merab can beat Umar lol

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i can't believe my dude said "i'll look it up" and then posts a fucking ChatGPT prompt LMAO. i thought he was at least going to fight finder the stats or something, maybe fast forward through some old matches. not just ask ChatGPT like it's the authority on this shit LMAO. holy moly never change Sherdog lmao

Not sure wtf you guys are talking about but he's already champ.

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Umar can't ride a bicycle as good as Merab can either

 
So if Umar wins the fight, what's the next goalpost move here? Merab was never good and Umar still hasn't proved anything?

Umar could go 50-0 and only fight top 5 guys the rest of his career but you'll still be here talking shit about him and everyone else linked to Khabib.

As time goes on and you idiots keep doing this, it really only makes you look ridiculous. You can post this shit a thousand times a day but it doesn't actually affect reality in the slightest. Stay delusional if you want to but don't act like the rest of us need to follow your delusional bullshit.
 
Your mind will be blown when you realize that was a high schooler (at the time) not college wrestler.

New breed of top end high school kids have been training at a college level from high end guys since 8 years old and have less wear and tear/burn out and are taking down high level NCAA guys left and right now days, including NCAA champs.

With that said: Islam and everyone else is going to get taken down sometimes by high level wrestlers. You remove the threat of striking and guillotine chokes and a lot of great MMA wrestlers are actually only very good wrestlers.

Also some great wrestlers turn into only very good MMA wrestlers.
 
Your mind will be blown when you realize that was a high schooler (at the time) not college wrestler.

New breed of top end high school kids have been training at a college level from high end guys since 8 years old and have less wear and tear/burn out and are taking down high level NCAA guys left and right now days, including NCAA champs.

where are they in MMA though? America's wrestlers are failing at even the regional levels. it's sad because i believe MMA needs them.
 
Actually, upon further review, he didn't fight four guys on that list and only fought one guy from that list, and that guy didn't shoot takedowns lol. Going to have to edit my response

I think it's time to ban @MarioLemieux for his egregious use of AI.
 
Canelo was good but he wasn't at his peak c'mon.
He was, the only difference is weight. I even think there’s an argument for that Canelo having better skills. Because he didn’t just wing uppercuts and hooks and bank on his power to bail him out of being down on the scorecards.

In De La Hoya vs Chavez, you had the same ages but the narrative was that DLH was in his prime and Chavez was too old.

I would only say possibly Canelo could have been weight drained at 154. But even today, skill wise he would lose to the same Mayweather at that weight unless we’re saying Mayweather would for some reason move up to 175lbs to cater to current Canelo’s size advantage.
 
where are they in MMA though? America's wrestlers are failing at even the regional levels. it's sad because i believe MMA needs them.
Good question. Some just aren't that good at fighting? The Oklahoma St high level wrestler just lost once (should have been twice) in close fights on Dana White Contender Series.

Ive talked about before that American Wrestling has turned into a sport of money/privilege in the last decade more than it ever was in the past. Talking out of my ass but I'd be surprised if the top 8 guys in college each year at all the weight classes didn't have at least a median family income of 150k.

Before it had more athletes and tough people being coached up in college. Now kids are buying the college level coaching and training at a young age and basically coming to college a near finished product.

Rich family kids might not be eager to jump into getting punched for a living? NIL also giving these top guys an extra 40-50k now. That's not a ton of money but they aren't leaving college broke as well. Coaching youth club academies is a way for these guys to make 50-75k a year or so doing something they know and enjoy on their own hours working for themselves.

Just thinking out loud though, hopefully more of them make the jump soon.
 
Good question. Some just aren't that good at fighting? The Oklahoma St high level wrestler just lost once (should have been twice) in close fights on Dana White Contender Series.

Ive talked about before that American Wrestling has turned into a sport of money/privilege in the last decade more than it ever was in the past. Talking out of my ass but I'd be surprised if the top 8 guys in college each year at all the weight classes didn't have at least a median family income of 150k.

Before it had more athletes and tough people being coached up in college. Now kids are buying the college level coaching and training at a young age and basically coming to college a near finished product.

Rich family kids might not be eager to jump into getting punched for a living? NIL also giving these top guys an extra 40-50k now. That's not a ton of money but they aren't leaving college broke as well. Coaching youth club academies is a way for these guys to make 50-75k a year or so doing something they know and enjoy on their own hours working for themselves.

Just thinking out loud though, hopefully more of them make the jump soon.

interesting. i didn't know rich kids were starting to dominate wrestling. i'm not from a big wrestling state, but every wrestler i knew growing up were poor kids trying to grind their way into college. it's interesting to see how that's kind of changed and how this is changing American MMA.
 
Umar is future of the division, Merab better bring in some Dagestanis grapplers who can somewhat copy Umar.

Very excited for the match up.
 
Haha, imagine being taken down by a college student! Good luck taking me down, college boy, you're just a kid!
 
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