Media Umar ain't beating Merab he can't even defend a takedown from a collage wrestler

richardjohnson said:
Lol you’re so obsessed with hating on Khabib and Islam you don’t even realize that “Gilroy” isn’t a person, it’s the high school where DC coaches wrestling.
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That was my mistake on the highschool/college but kids from Gilroy are constantly learning and helping guys from AKA this doesn’t seem like a competitive grappling session like TS wants it to be.
 
"He can't defend a takedown"
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Yea, it's not like he's trained with Khabib, Usman, Islam and every other killer from that region for decades.
 
Luckyme said:
Merab is good at spamming takedowns but he hasn't shown he can do anything with them. He doesn't have GnP nor much of a submission game.

He also hasn't shown how he reacts to people trying to take him down.

I think they will cancel each other's wrestling and this will end up being fought on the feet where Umar is far better, and unlike O'Malley he won't be worried about the takedowns.
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In Umar's first 4 ufc fights his opponents shot 0 takedowns. The only takedowns shot on umar in his entire ufc career were desperate shit takedwons in round 5 from sandhagen. We have a much better idea of how Merab deals with guys trying to take him down than we do of Umar. Merab has has had plenty of people try to take him down in the UFC. Cejudo just did it recently, for example.
 
That training footage is bs.

But however I don´t know how good of a grappler Umar is because I always see the guy knocking guys out he is a good striker hence I have not seen his wrestling that much to be honest.

Anyone familiar with Umar´s level please come forward.

I know Khabib, Islam, Chimaev are legitimate GOAT level grapplers whereas Sterling and Movsar are just right below including Merab is same level as Sterling and Movsar great grappler as well but honestly I don´t know where to place Umar and I have never seen much from him grappling wise.

If I was Umar I would drill wrestling like crazy because EPO Merab won´t do anything else then spam takedowns and the whole fight comes down to can he defend or not.
 
fortheo said:
In Umar's first 4 ufc fights his opponents shot 0 takedowns. The only takedowns shot on umar in his entire ufc career were desperate shit takedwons in round 5 from sandhagen. We have a much better idea of how Merab deals with guys trying to take him down than we do of Umar. Merab has has had plenty of people try to take him down in the UFC. Cejudo just did it recently, for example.
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In other words his TDD average in the UFC is 100%

I wonder what it is in his full career. I'll look it up.
 
ChatGTP


Outside of the UFC, Umar Nurmagomedov also maintained an impressive record for his takedown defense. Below are the details for his takedown defense in his non-UFC career, including his fights in organizations like Eagle Fighting Championship (EFC) and ACA (Absolute Championship Akhmat):

Umar Nurmagomedov - Takedown Defense (Outside UFC)​

1. Umar Nurmagomedov vs. Khusein Khaliev (Eagle Fighting Championship 29 – May 27, 2016)​

  • Result: Win (Submission – Armbar)
  • Takedown Defense:100%
    • Opponent’s Takedown Attempts: 1 (0 successful)
    • Details: Umar defended a single takedown attempt early in the fight and controlled the action on the feet before transitioning to the submission for the win.

2. Umar Nurmagomedov vs. Dzhakha Khousaev (Eagle Fighting Championship 31 – May 20, 2017)​

  • Result: Win (Submission – Armbar)
  • Takedown Defense:100%
    • Opponent’s Takedown Attempts: 1 (0 successful)
    • Details: Umar kept the fight standing and showed off his submission skills once he secured the top position, while defending the takedown attempt with ease.

3. Umar Nurmagomedov vs. Andrey Lezhnev (Eagle Fighting Championship 32 – October 28, 2017)​

  • Result: Win (Submission – Guillotine Choke)
  • Takedown Defense:100%
    • Opponent’s Takedown Attempts: 2 (0 successful)
    • Details: Lezhnev’s attempts were unsuccessful as Umar’s takedown defense was on point. He controlled the pace and eventually secured a submission win in the second round.

4. Umar Nurmagomedov vs. Saimon Oliveira (ACA 107 – November 27, 2020)​

  • Result: Win (Unanimous Decision)
  • Takedown Defense:100%
    • Opponent’s Takedown Attempts: 1 (0 successful)
    • Details: Umar controlled the fight with striking and wrestling exchanges, stuffing Oliveira’s takedown attempt while keeping the fight standing or in advantageous positions on the ground.

5. Umar Nurmagomedov vs. Sergey Morozov (ACA 118 – February 21, 2021)​

  • Result: Win (Unanimous Decision)
  • Takedown Defense:100%
    • Opponent’s Takedown Attempts: 3 (0 successful)
    • Details: Morozov, known for his wrestling, couldn’t get Umar to the ground in this fight. Umar dominated with superior control and technique, defending every takedown attempt.

Summary of Takedown Defense (TDD%) Outside the UFC:​

  • Total Takedown Attempts Against Umar (Outside UFC): 8
  • Takedowns Successfully Defended: 8
  • Takedown Defense Percentage: 100%

Analysis (Outside UFC):​

Similar to his UFC performances, Umar Nurmagomedov displayed an incredible takedown defense rate outside the UFC as well, successfully defending every takedown attempt across multiple organizations. His defense was especially notable in his matches against opponents with strong wrestling backgrounds, including Sergey Morozov and Saimon Oliveira.
His ability to defend takedowns is a key part of his undefeated run, and he has shown the ability to keep opponents on the feet, where his pressure, striking, and ground control can take over.

Overall Takedown Defense Record (UFC + Outside UFC):​

  • Total Takedown Attempts Against Umar: 15
  • Takedowns Successfully Defended: 15
  • Takedown Defense Percentage: 100%
 
MarioLemieux said:
ChatGTP


Outside of the UFC, Umar Nurmagomedov also maintained an impressive record for his takedown defense. Below are the details for his takedown defense in his non-UFC career, including his fights in organizations like Eagle Fighting Championship (EFC) and ACA (Absolute Championship Akhmat):

Umar Nurmagomedov - Takedown Defense (Outside UFC)​

1. Umar Nurmagomedov vs. Khusein Khaliev (Eagle Fighting Championship 29 – May 27, 2016)​

  • Result: Win (Submission – Armbar)
  • Takedown Defense:100%
    • Opponent’s Takedown Attempts: 1 (0 successful)
    • Details: Umar defended a single takedown attempt early in the fight and controlled the action on the feet before transitioning to the submission for the win.

2. Umar Nurmagomedov vs. Dzhakha Khousaev (Eagle Fighting Championship 31 – May 20, 2017)​

  • Result: Win (Submission – Armbar)
  • Takedown Defense:100%
    • Opponent’s Takedown Attempts: 1 (0 successful)
    • Details: Umar kept the fight standing and showed off his submission skills once he secured the top position, while defending the takedown attempt with ease.

3. Umar Nurmagomedov vs. Andrey Lezhnev (Eagle Fighting Championship 32 – October 28, 2017)​

  • Result: Win (Submission – Guillotine Choke)
  • Takedown Defense:100%
    • Opponent’s Takedown Attempts: 2 (0 successful)
    • Details: Lezhnev’s attempts were unsuccessful as Umar’s takedown defense was on point. He controlled the pace and eventually secured a submission win in the second round.

4. Umar Nurmagomedov vs. Saimon Oliveira (ACA 107 – November 27, 2020)​

  • Result: Win (Unanimous Decision)
  • Takedown Defense:100%
    • Opponent’s Takedown Attempts: 1 (0 successful)
    • Details: Umar controlled the fight with striking and wrestling exchanges, stuffing Oliveira’s takedown attempt while keeping the fight standing or in advantageous positions on the ground.

5. Umar Nurmagomedov vs. Sergey Morozov (ACA 118 – February 21, 2021)​

  • Result: Win (Unanimous Decision)
  • Takedown Defense:100%
    • Opponent’s Takedown Attempts: 3 (0 successful)
    • Details: Morozov, known for his wrestling, couldn’t get Umar to the ground in this fight. Umar dominated with superior control and technique, defending every takedown attempt.

Summary of Takedown Defense (TDD%) Outside the UFC:​

  • Total Takedown Attempts Against Umar (Outside UFC): 8
  • Takedowns Successfully Defended: 8
  • Takedown Defense Percentage: 100%

Analysis (Outside UFC):​

Similar to his UFC performances, Umar Nurmagomedov displayed an incredible takedown defense rate outside the UFC as well, successfully defending every takedown attempt across multiple organizations. His defense was especially notable in his matches against opponents with strong wrestling backgrounds, including Sergey Morozov and Saimon Oliveira.
His ability to defend takedowns is a key part of his undefeated run, and he has shown the ability to keep opponents on the feet, where his pressure, striking, and ground control can take over.

Overall Takedown Defense Record (UFC + Outside UFC):​

  • Total Takedown Attempts Against Umar: 15
  • Takedowns Successfully Defended: 15
  • Takedown Defense Percentage: 100%
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Those stats are wrong. He never fought Saimon oliveira, He never fough lezhnev, He never fought khaliev, he never fought Khousaev, and morozov didn't attempt to take him down, so not sure what the AI saw there.

Also, my main point was that we have a better idea of how merab deals with takedown threats, and I stand by that.
 
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fortheo said:
He had more than 5 fights out of the UFC and morozov didn't attempt to take him down, so not sure what the AI saw there. Regardless, those stats are impressive if true
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How can you say "impressive if true" right after you just proved them as false?

ChatGPT isn't good for shit like this.
 
I think Umar is in good hands, he literally grapples people on Merabs or higher level everyday
 
13Seconds said:
I don't care about the video but im picking Merab.

As promising as Umar is, I think it's a case of too much too soon. I really do believe getting fast tracked here will work against him. Experience is real and Merab has spent alot of time in the octagon.

Like when Mayweather took out Canelo before Canelo truly entered his prime.
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Mayweather was past his prime and Canelo was in his physical prime with 42 fights under his belt.
 
Barteh said:
How can you say "impressive if true" right after you just proved them as false?

ChatGPT isn't good for shit like this.
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Lol, I was assuming the majority of those stats would be true, but now I see that umar never even fought Saimon Oliveira.
 
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fortheo said:
Lol, I was assuming the majority of those stats would be true, but now I see that Kumar never even fought Saimon Oliveira.
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Not only did he never fight the guy, he never fought in that organization nor did he fight that calendar year lol.
 
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