Rumored Tyson Fury vs Manuel Charr

WklySportsMemes said:
Hmmmm. So lets look at this objectively....
1. AJ should concede to all things Fury is requiring.
2. Usyk can not make the date and is injured
3. A 4th Wilder fight makes no sense and is to dangerous
4. Joyce is too dangerous too risk losing a unification chance to. Plus may not agree to short turnaround.
5. Are the old guard "B team" of Ruiz, Ortiz, Whyte, Chisora, Parker honestly any better at this point? I think inwould throw Dubois into this category too.

6. None of the other younger prospects are remotely ready or interesting. Sanchez. The old Chinese Olympian coming off a loss. Hrgovic looked bad in that lucky win. Anderson too young & is fresh off training with Fury. Hunter mehhh. That giant Russian looked bad in his win as well.

If the plan is to stay busy until Usyk heals and AJ won't concede..... As crazy as it sounds its hard to fault him.

Im open to logical suggestions that might make sense that I missed. Lets hear them.
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Surprisingly good post. Agreed on all points
 
Stormtrooper85 said:
I don't think he was expecting AJ to agree so quickly.
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I’m mot sure he expected him to agree at all. As soon as Joshua verbally accepted the goal posts moved from this year, to end of November/first weekend in dec. It’s not reasonable to expect Joshua to accept his fight 3 months after the last usyk fight, but he did pretty much straight away

I think this has backfired badly.
 
Why do people keep saying "AJ agreed?"
AJ agreeing doesn't matter until the contract is signed.
Also, if he has agreed for weeks now, what is the hold up with signing the contract?

Legitimate questions.
 
I'll say it again as I said in the thread about Joshua I'm surprised people are taking this serious as this fight also isn't happening.
 
WklySportsMemes said:
Why do people keep saying "AJ agreed?"
AJ agreeing doesn't matter until the contract is signed.
Also, if he has agreed for weeks now, what is the hold up with signing the contract?

Legitimate questions.
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If terms were presented and AJ initially agreed and the contract was sent with what seems to be a lot of BS from what was mentioned in here, it seems Fury wasn't as serious as he'd like people to think he is.
 
Stormtrooper85 said:
If terms were presented and AJ initially agreed and the contract was sent with what seems to be a lot of BS from what was mentioned in here, it seems Fury wasn't as serious as he'd like people to think he is.
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Objectively, from the outset who did this fight look a bad idea for?
 
WklySportsMemes said:
Why do people keep saying "AJ agreed?"
AJ agreeing doesn't matter until the contract is signed.
Also, if he has agreed for weeks now, what is the hold up with signing the contract?

Legitimate questions.
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How do you what was written in the contract? Fury own promoter said there as issues with it and that they where working on it today with matchroom. There wasn't a deadline between the promotors on this. Its just Fury not wanting the fight and playing up to the masses to try and convince the uneducated that AJ ducked him.
 
RDL81 said:
How do you what was written in the contract? Fury own promoter said there as issues with it and that they where working on it today with matchroom. There wasn't a deadline between the promotors on this. Its just Fury not wanting the fight and playing up to the masses to try and convince the uneducated that AJ ducked him.
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ironic post mate
 
Stormtrooper85 said:
If terms were presented and AJ initially agreed and the contract was sent with what seems to be a lot of BS from what was mentioned in here, it seems Fury wasn't as serious as he'd like people to think he is.
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Just my 2 cents. Not saying you're wrong.
I look at like this.
When it comes to contracts terms like "stuff" & "b.s." dont mean anything.

A.J. is in no position to require or request anything. Fury just threw him one of the greatest life lines of all time.

AJ & Hearn need to clearly communicate what they are not willing to bow to. Or call Fury's bluff and sign it already.
Its not calling Fury's bluff if they dont put pen to paper or if they make changes advantageous for AJ.

If not, its another case of FAST EDDIE.

Sure Fury is going to play mind games and be a prick to negotiate with. Why piss him off if you want the fight when you have no leverage.

Both sides could be playing the same games for all we know.
 
Stormtrooper85 said:
Obviously, AJ but if what's mentioned that Hearn and Warren say the contract was all over the place whose fault would that be?
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How all over the place can it be really. Promoters are the biggest shysters on earth, to pick one over another as a truth teller is kind of ridiculous.
 
RDL81 said:
How do you what was written in the contract? Fury own promoter said there as issues with it and that they where working on it today with matchroom. There wasn't a deadline between the promotors on this. Its just Fury not wanting the fight and playing up to the masses to try and convince the uneducated that AJ ducked him.
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You will still be saying "he never wanted the fight" after the results are on boxrec.

We dont know is the point. Im not married to any argument here. Just pointing out the flaws in calling things definitive too soon.
 
WklySportsMemes said:
Just my 2 cents. Not saying you're wrong.
I look at like this.
When it comes to contracts terms like "stuff" & "b.s." dont mean anything.

A.J. is in no position to require or request anything. Fury just threw him one of the greatest life lines of all time.

AJ & Hearn need to clearly communicate what they are not willing to bow to. Or call Fury's bluff and sign it already.
Its not calling Fury's bluff if they dont put pen to paper or if they make changes advantageous for AJ.

If not, its another case of FAST EDDIE.

Sure Fury is going to play mind games and be a prick to negotiate with. Why piss him off if you want the fight when you have no leverage.

Both sides could be playing the same games for all we know.
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If Furys promotor says there are issues with the contract then how can AJ be expected to sign it?

There are also two broadcasters involved in the discussions today as well as Hearn and Warren so its not as simple as "sign the contract now"
 
WklySportsMemes said:
You will still be saying "he never wanted the fight" after the results are on boxrec.

We dont know is the point. Im not married to any argument here. Just pointing out the flaws in calling things definitive too soon.
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Your are saying AJ should sign no matter what and its not as simple as that if for example he is breach of another contract (his DAZN one) if he signs
 
RDL81 said:
If Furys promotor says there are issues with the contract then how can AJ be expected to sign it?

There are also two broadcasters involved in the discussions today as well as Hearn and Warren so its not as simple as "sign the contract now"
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Fury has been giving that imaginary deadline for multiple weeks now. Its obviously part of his schtick
 
WklySportsMemes said:
Just my 2 cents. Not saying you're wrong.
I look at like this.
When it comes to contracts terms like "stuff" & "b.s." dont mean anything.

A.J. is in no position to require or request anything. Fury just threw him one of the greatest life lines of all time.

AJ & Hearn need to clearly communicate what they are not willing to bow to. Or call Fury's bluff and sign it already.
Its not calling Fury's bluff if they dont put pen to paper or if they make changes advantageous for AJ.

If not, its another case of FAST EDDIE.

Sure Fury is going to play mind games and be a prick to negotiate with. Why piss him off if you want the fight when you have no leverage.

Both sides could be playing the same games for all we know.
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thank god there's another free of the mob mentality
 
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