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You realize Obama DID NOT want to get involved, he was pressured into it by the Neoconservatives, Hillary and the GOP. The Saudis and other Gulf Arab were also pressuring him to depose Assad but he rebuffed them.Obama for getting us involved in a civil war we should have stayed far, far, far the fuck away from because there was literally no way to come out of it cleanly.
You realize Obama DID NOT want to get involved, he was pressured into it by the Neoconservatives, Hillary and the GOP. The Saudis and other Gulf Arab were also pressuring him to depose Assad but he rebuffed them.
He did not want to get involved as proven by the shit he got for putting down the red line on Assad using chemical weapons then not doing anything when Assad was accused of using them.
Unlike Trump Obama was not a president who thumbed his nose at both parties and did his own thing. So he had to give in a bit, which is why he did the half ass support for the rebels in a limited capacity.
Now as far as ISIS goes, he did the right thing in using US resources to destroy them. Any US president should get involved in destroying ISIS.
they knew the arms were going to al qaeda. And didn’t care. And the “moderate jihadists” were just as bad. Still murdered and raped and pillaged.
they knew what was happening there, and didn’t care. So they gave weapons that’s went to al qaeda and kept on doing . Month after month, year after year.
first thing trump did when he was sworn into office was out a stop to that evil bullshit.
He enraged the murderous establishment from day one. That’s nothing short of a heroic move
You realize Obama DID NOT want to get involved, he was pressured into it by the Neoconservatives, Hillary and the GOP. The Saudis and other Gulf Arab were also pressuring him to depose Assad but he rebuffed them.
He did not want to get involved as proven by the shit he got for putting down the red line on Assad using chemical weapons then not doing anything when Assad was accused of using them.
Unlike Trump Obama was not a president who thumbed his nose at both parties and did his own thing. So he had to give in a bit, which is why he did the half ass support for the rebels in a limited capacity.
Now as far as ISIS goes, he did the right thing in using US resources to destroy them. Any US president should get involved in destroying ISIS.
You realize Obama DID NOT want to get involved, he was pressured into it by the Neoconservatives, Hillary and the GOP. The Saudis and other Gulf Arab were also pressuring him to depose Assad but he rebuffed them.
He did not want to get involved as proven by the shit he got for putting down the red line on Assad using chemical weapons then not doing anything when Assad was accused of using them.
Unlike Trump Obama was not a president who thumbed his nose at both parties and did his own thing. So he had to give in a bit, which is why he did the half ass support for the rebels in a limited capacity.
Now as far as ISIS goes, he did the right thing in using US resources to destroy them. Any US president should get involved in destroying ISIS.
Do you have proof they knew the arms were going to go to AQ?they knew the arms were going to al qaeda. And didn’t care. And the “moderate jihadists” were just as bad. Still murdered and raped and pillaged.
they knew what was happening there, and didn’t care. So they gave weapons that’s went to al qaeda and kept on doing . Month after month, year after year.
first thing trump did when he was sworn into office was out a stop to that evil bullshit.
He enraged the murderous establishment from day one. That’s nothing short of a heroic move
only a handful of corrupt millionaire corporatist establishment brass. They are all heavily invested in forever war, for whatever reason, and they know they aren’t “defending America”. I mean, they have so intertwined with the military industrial complex it’s criminal.
The troops still love trump, and the patriotic top brass.
It's pretty pathetic to think that Donald Trump is anything but a chickenshit coward. It's even more pathetic to think US troops are as ignorant and lacking in ethics as to be on par with you in their assessments.
This guy could throw a pregnant woman in front of himself to avoid a kick and you'd praise his gumption.
Do you have proof they knew the arms were going to go to AQ?
Trump? They guy who defended Saudi Arabia when they murdered and chopped up a journalist? They guy who's still fuelling the war in Yemen. Nothing heroic about that scumbag.
Others have expressed fear that President Donald Trump's stated desire to get out of "stupid endless wars" in the Middle East makes him an unreliable ally as Israel faces threats from Iran.
In brief remarks after their meeting, Pompeo said "the remarkable, close relationship between our two countries is as strong as it has ever been." He said they discussed ways to push back against Iran, and "efforts to jointly combat all the challenges that the world confronts here in the Middle East."
Was still his call in the end, because getting US forces involved in foreign conflicts is the one thing the president can put his foot down on and tell both houses to eat shit. And he caved, when the best move was staying far the fuck away from that fiasco.
Do you have proof they knew the arms were going to go to AQ?
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Yeh I did it. What was the proof?Did you miss a democrat running for president stating this during a national debate like 2 days ago?
Because clearly you missed 2015/16. Though to be fair, western media did absolutely fail you in their reporting.
Yeh I did it. What was the proof?
Notice how only Gold has upward mobility while bronze and iron (aka the majority) are stuck right where they are? Maybe next time open your fucking eyes when you play pseudo intellectual.
Could we have at least had the UN peace keeping force put in place of the US military? When we leaving Iraq? Should be happening anytime now. Waiting for the end of Iraq war.PS, ceasefire doesn’t mean cease thread.
Where are the liberals cheering for war?