International Tucker Carlson in Russia to interview Vladimir Putin UPDATE - Also Dugin

Rod1 said:
Of course its not happening, which is why your comparison is retarded.



The point is being addressed directly you fucking moron.

Russia bullies Ukraine so Ukraine looks for protection, this is what a normal country would act.


Which is why America implemented the "Good neighbor policy" towards Mexico

America realized since the early XX under Woodrow Wilson, that Mexico would be wooed by great powers and that if America kept messing with Mexican internal politics it would lead to potentially Mexico aligning with America's enemies.



Indeed, what is acceptable to Ukraine, Mexico or any other sovereign nation.


They did because Russia kept being aggressive towards Ukraine and it was apparent that Russia was just bidding its time until they could take over the country and they were right.


The only whiny bitches is the Russian cucks parroting Putin's idea that Russia is a great power and that America and the rest of the world must heed their warnings.

Russia is an enemy state that treated a country like shit until said country fought back.
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dont be too hard on him..he has shelves to stack..
 
Rod1 said:
That's not an analogy, that's a hypothetical.

For it to be an analogy it has to be analogous, its in the fucking name, ANALOGY.


Mexico wouldn't let America murder their politicians, take big chunks of their country or invade under false pretenses either.



Says the guy that literally falls for Russian propaganda.
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And still you refuse to address the point by diverting away time and time again. As for your comment about it not being an analogy, here's another bit of mud in your eye to go with all your other slam dunks you've inflicted on yourself......


"A hypothetical analogy is a type of analogy that is used to make a difference or comparison more clear by creating a hypothetical scenario. It involves imagining a hypothetical situation or example to illustrate a point or highlight similarities or differences between two things For example, suppose we have two individuals named John and George, and John is faster than George. To make the difference in their speed more clear, we can create a hypothetical analogy by saying, "If John and George were vehicles, John would be a Ferrari and George would be a bike." This hypothetical analogy helps to emphasize the difference in speed between John and George"


This is the part where by your retard logic you start crying about how George isn't a bike though so that is stuhpedd!

Now go cry some more baby girl.
 
Limbo Pete said:
His opinion that he can just take someone elses country isn't a valid opinion lol
"But Putin really wants it and we have to respect his thoughts on this matter" lolololololol
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I didn't say we have to respect his thoughts. Or that i think it's valid. I was clearly referring to how he sees it. And the guy who rules Russia has a far more relevant opinion than some random guy on sherdog who can't do shit other than guzzle all the western propaganda he can.
 
CyberRubberDuck said:
I didn't say we have to respect his thoughts. Or that i think it's valid. I was clearly referring to how he sees it. And the guy who rules Russia has a far more relevant opinion than some random guy on sherdog who can't do shit other than guzzle all the western propaganda he can.
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Jesus Christ, this is making dimballer look coherent
 
CyberRubberDuck said:
I didn't say we have to respect his thoughts. Or that i think it's valid. I was clearly referring to how he sees it. And the guy who rules Russia has a far more relevant opinion than some random guy on sherdog who can't do shit other than guzzle all the western propaganda he can.
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oh geez what do we have here, more internet chud fallacy hogwash lol
This kind of shit slays me to no end lmao Like, somehow there's a contest of worth between random internet person and the almighty Vladimir Putin. Of course, what's really going on here is that you don't like what i'm saying, so you're trying to undercut any opinions I have by holding them up against this sort of authority figure, even though there are a number of problems with that strategy. And of course of course, the bonus here is to attach your own kind of argumentative worth, if you will, to the person you are appealing to, therefore shielding yourself within the armor of shitty internet chuddery.
Vladimir Putin is most certainly an important global figure, but that doesn't mean the "opinions" of a dicatator, or anyone else, somehow have a kind of intrinsic trump card . His opinions on freedom, democracy, human dignity, etc are pure authoritarian dogshit and nobody anywhere is bound to respect them, even if any number of people are bound to live under his rule
 
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CyberRubberDuck said:
This is the part where by your retard logic you start crying about how George isn't a bike though so that is stuhpedd!

Now go cry some more baby girl.
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The one who cried "George isn't a bike" was you fucking moron, i merely said that if we are in an analogy, then Mexico joins an alliance with China after Mexico is invaded, carved and bullied by the US.

But you conveniently leave that part of the analogy out.
 
CyberRubberDuck said:
I didn't say we have to respect his thoughts. Or that i think it's valid. I was clearly referring to how he sees it. And the guy who rules Russia has a far more relevant opinion than some random guy on sherdog who can't do shit other than guzzle all the western propaganda he can.
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Western propaganda?

Man you are dropping your "im a neutral guy who doesn't cares about a side, i don't agree with Putin but...".
 
Rod1 said:
Western propaganda?

Man you are dropping your "im a neutral guy who doesn't cares about a side, i don't agree with Putin but...".
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Yeah yeah whatever. The fact I know our governments lie to us means I automatically have to support Putin.......?
That's so retarded it's not even funny. And we aren't bombarded with propaganda by our governments and media? You're surely not that stupid. Or are you?
 
Islam Imamate said:
I think there's more than a seed of truth to the idea that Ukrainians and Russians are sister peoples but what Putin gets wrong is that this doesn't really matter in the way he thinks. Look at Taiwan, its culturally far closer to China than Ukraine is to Russia and there's a far stronger argument about it being an artificial state. But even they want nothing to do with the PRC and that's because their people want liberal democracy, not to live under a communist dictatorship. Similarly it doesn't matter how much shared history and cultural overlap exists between the Russian and Ukrainian people if the Ukrainians want to turn towards the West and liberal democracy while Russia ossifies as an authoritarian oligarchy.
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It's not that simple, and Taiwan's history doesn't begin in WW2 or the 17th Century which is as far back as the vast majority of non-natives go. That view is just as incomplete and misleading as starting Ukrainian history in the Soviet era and leads to equally false conclusions. Taiwan has a history going back thousands of years to the natives who started a civilization on the island, well before the Dutch & Chinese colonized & annexed it. As a descendent of those natives, I'd argue that Taiwan was illegally occupied by foreigners from the 17th century until the end of martial law in 1987. And that's where shit gets messy, because now we have the problem of what Taiwan really is and who actually represents it.
 
Rod1 said:
The one who cried "George isn't a bike" was you fucking moron, i merely said that if we are in an analogy, then Mexico joins an alliance with China after Mexico is invaded, carved and bullied by the US.

But you conveniently leave that part of the analogy out.
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But Ukraine were trying to join the EU and NATO before they were invaded moron. FFS.
You're just a troll. Surely you aren't this stupid? Holy fuck. You actually are aren't you.
 
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