Trumps many, many business failings explained

[mike sherry]

I love how liberals now attack people for failing along the way. The reason why of course is because they are failures who never tried to do anything. Talk to ANY succesful business person and they will say they failed at something. They'll say they failed over and over. Some will say they failed for years. But eventually the work paid off. Yet liberals are now digging shit up in the 70's about how he came up short. Like above, oh no he didn't make it hollywood 40 years ago. Who gives a shit? Who in their right mind judges someone for not being perfect all the time? No, you judge the end result. You don't judge Bill Gates for being a drop out. You don't judge Bill Gates for being arrested when determining today how to do business with him.

I remember in highschool some kids would drive really nice vehicles to school. Most people just thought oh cool, nice car/truck. But some kids would be like "Yea too bad his daddy bought for him." That's what you call someone who is butthurt. We all know damn well if your parent bought you a nice car you'd drive it. But you're hating.

With this logic Alexander the Great is just a piece of shit. His dad made the army, trained the army, and planned the invasion of Persia. Alexander had it handed to him. I guess one of the greatest figures in world history, looked up to til the present, is just a piece of shit according to liberal logic.

My parents taught me how to be responsible with money and the value of investing. Clearly my success is invalid because of this

Let's take it further. My parents paid for my college, ergo my success is absolutely invalid. I'd not have anything if it wasn't for them

 

[Thunderflash500]

My parents taught me how to be responsible with money and the value of investing. Clearly my success is invalid because of this

Let's take it further. My parents paid for my college, ergo my success is absolutely invalid. I'd not have anything if it wasn't for them

That's what Obama's point was about when he said "You didn't build that." It's propaganda against the people who build society. It's like a little seed of hate. He's setting the stage to attack business owners. People who just suck off the system can be guilt free. Because in their eyes they can justify stealing from others by saying "Well he didn't make that business, he only got success because he's white." "He only got success because he's a man." "He only got success because of the government. He doesn't deserve to keep the fruits of his labor. I deserve his money just as much as him."

 

[mike sherry]

WSJ did the math. If he invested his inheritance in index funds he'd be ten billion richer.

And if he invested in bitcoin in 2010 and then sold at the 1k peak he would have been the first ever trillionaire

 

[JosephDredd]

That's what Obama's point was about when he said "You didn't build that." It's propaganda against the people who build society. It's like a little seed of hate. He's setting the stage to attack business owners. People who just suck off the system can be guilt free. Because in their eyes they can justify stealing from others by saying "Well he didn't make that business, he only got success because he's white." "He only got success because he's a man." "He only got success because of the government. He doesn't deserve to keep the fruits of his labor. I deserve his money just as much as him."

When he said, "You didn't build that." he immediately explained he was talking about roads, bridges and other infrastructure that you were given access to.

 

[JosephDredd]

And if he invested in bitcoin in 2010 and then sold at the 1k peak he would have been the first ever trillionaire

Has bitcoin been the recommended investment for the last half century? I missd that

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

The truth can be funny sometimes huh ?

Its a moronic statement thus the lol but im not surprised , new account , check , the flavor of the month fighter as his avatar , check ..... usually not a good recipe for quality posts

 

[Thunderflash500]

When he said, "You didn't build that." he immediately explained he was talking about roads, bridges and other infrastructure that you were given access to.

His whole point is a communist argument. That the state creates wealth. That was the point of the comment. He's arguing that business owners are not responsible for their own wealth. It's propaganda to incite people who do nothing. It makes them feel like they are owed something. That we should all share everything because we all share in the creation of wealth.

 

[JosephDredd]

His whole point is a communist argument. That the state creates wealth. That was the point of the comment. He's arguing that business owners are not responsible for their own wealth. It's propaganda to incite people who do nothing. It makes them feel like they are owed something. That we should all share everything because we all share in the creation of wealth.

You're on crack. He's a right-leaning Democrat who implemented Republican ideas and tried to impement many more.

Wikipedia says it better than I could:

The president's remarks reflected the belief, common among Democrats, that successful citizens owed their success partly to public infrastructure and government spending, and that they should contribute to finance public goods.[7]

 

[mike sherry]

Has bitcoin been the recommended investment for the last half century? I missd that

Oh, my bad, I thought we were just throwing out all the missed opportunities we can think of using hindsight.

 

[Joe]

trump was always the poor mans billionaire. what other billionaires go around telling the media how wealthy they are?

 

[JosephDredd]

Oh, my bad, I thought we were just throwing out all the missed opportunities we can think of using hindsight.

This thread is even better if you read it for what is actually being written. Thunderflash made that mistake, too.

 

[mike sherry]

This thread is even better if you read it for what is actually being written. Thunderflash made that mistake, too.

I actually got a lot out of this thread.

It is still absolutely asinine to use the index fund as an example of how he has failed as a business man.

 

[Thunderflash500]

You're on crack. He's a right-leaning Democrat who implemented Republican ideas and tried to impement many more.

Wikipedia says it better than I could:

Right leaning Democrat lol. In like the first minute you can hear him for yourself say people should try communism.

Here he's calling straight up for communism in the Americas "If it works."

"Just be practical"

I mean you people have no intuition at all.

 

[JosephDredd]

Right leaning Democrat lol. In like the first minute you can hear him for yourself say people should try communism.

Here he's calling straight up for communism in the Americas "If it works."

That is literally not what he's saying. At all

"Just be practical"

I mean you people have no intuition at all.

It must be frustrating, talking to people who don't twist reality into wild fantasies with you. I can see why you're so angry.

He quite clearly praises the free market system for producing wealth, innovating and allowing people freedom and tells people that if they need to solve a social problem they shouldn't be afraid to look at ideas that people are demonizing as being communist/socialist. Which is exactly what he faced passing Obamacare: the GOP ranting and raving and working up idiots that he was trying to impement communism and destroy America and make everyone poor... even though he literally implemented a Republican proposal.

 

[Thunderflash500]

That is literally not what he's saying. At all



It must be frustrating, talking to people who don't twist reality into wild fantasies with you. I can see why you're so angry.

He quite clearly praises the free market system for producing wealth, innovating and allowing people freedom and tells people that if they need to solve a social problem they shouldn't be afraid to look at ideas that people are demonizing as being communist/socialist. Which is exactly what he faced passing Obamacare: the GOP ranting and raving and working up idiots that he was trying to impement communism and destroy America and make everyone poor... even though he literally implemented a Republican proposal.

He's saying that a market economy works in some ways but isn't stable. And that communist nations should be praised for their success's. Yea you're right, he gave minor praises to capitalism but followed it up saying it's not stable. In every way he's building a case against free markets while at the same time praising aspects of communism.

No intuition at all. Complete inability to understand propaganda. Complete inability to look more than one step ahead. Obama legalized propaganda to be used against the American people under the NDAA, now he's arguing against Capitalism and your head is completely in the sand. Talking about the bad things Republicans do. Yea they suck too, that's why they are anti-trump. They are globalist filth too.

 

[JosephDredd]

He's saying that a market economy works in some ways but isn't stable. And that communist nations should be praised for their success's. Yea you're right, he gave minor praises to capitalism but followed it up saying it's not stable. In every way he's building a case against free markets while at the same time praising aspects of communism.

No intuition at all. Complete inability to understand propaganda. Complete inability to look more than one step ahead. Obama legalized propaganda to be used against the American people under the NDAA, now he's arguing against Capitalism and your head is completely in the sand. Talking about the bad things Republicans do. Yea they suck too, that's why they are anti-trump. They are globalist filth too.

it's almost like words someone would speak after poor regulation of the financial sector created a massive global downturn that ruined millions of lives...

 

[HOLA]

My favorite park is liberals thinking having some failed businesses means you're a failure as a businessman. It makes sense since the vast majority of liberals have never created a job in their lives, so they don't realize pretty much every single successful business owner in existence has had failures prior to reaching the success they have now.

He had some failures but his successes far outweigh them. It's a testament to his tenacity and skill as a businessman that he didn't give up and he overcame adversity. It's why, despite some failures, he's a billionaire today instead of some drone making $42k at a mind-numbing desk job. Keep scraping the bottom of the barrel to criticize him, guys, it doesn't look desperate at all.

The reason he isn't a drone making 42k is because he inherited his dad's $200 million company when he was 25. Adjusted for inflation that's over a $1 billion company he received. Off the top of my head, about $1.4 By doing nothing.

Some reputable sources don't even think he's CURRENTLY a billionaire. Some put it at $200-300 million.

This is a man who doesn't shy about bragging about his supposed wealth, but an instrument to really help clarify annual income - tax returns - he refuses to release. Because he's hiding something. Namely, he isn't worth nearly as much as he claims. He wouldn't be begging for campaign money if he was.

The guy stamps his names on things and has ghost writers who think he is a psychopath aggrandize him. He even makes up fake publicists to aggrandize himself further. He's insecure and pathetic.

He's not worthy of shining Warren Buffett's shoes.

 

[HOLA]

Some of his history...financing the purchase of the Taj Mahal with 14% junk bonds and declaring bankruptcy in 1 year...not even Scyther would be that dumb.

 

[Squarechoke]

He's a globalist. Not a liberal. Nice try.

He's put billions into funding liberal organizations. Also, being a globalist doesn't put you anywhere on the political scale. There are such ideas in all kinds of political ideologies so it's not a counterpoint to being liberal.

 

[2GunTommy]

Yes, I'm well aware you randomly brought that up in a discussion about Trump's business history in a sad attempt to change the topic. In fact, it's why I was laughing at you.

But thank you for even more laughter.

It's the hypocrisy of focusing on Trump's successful record as a businessman and ignoring Hilarys many legitimate scandals that include allowing men to die in Benghazi so as not to offend their govt and having proof of her lies about sending classified info through her email right out of the FBI directors mouth that I was pointing out.

Its a legit point. Stop playing dumb if that's possible.