Trump's Ed. Pick with No Teaching or Admistrative Experience

[Falsedawn]

That's why we need school choice

This is why you need educational standards.

 

[Gervinho]

It's amazing that anyone would stick up for her. This goes beyond party lines. She's genuinely NOT qualified and her hearing couldn't have gone much worse.

come on, she aint that bad. Half of the country thought Palin was qualified to be second in life for the presidency. Hell they could pick me and half of the country would say I am qualified depending on which team I am representing

 

[Undying Poster]

Who cares ? Look what progressive led public education has given us ;

In this partisan forum, notice how you got zero likes. I can say anything negative about liberals, Hillary, or Muslims no matter the context or reason and guarantee about 5 likes. And you got nothing. Think about it.

 

[dissolved]

What does a speech writer building a relationship with the pres have to do with this? lol. Stop trying to play politics.

Don't play politics? You just spun foreign-affairs-guru, of whom the New York Times said, "[Ben Rhodes] is, according to the consensus of the two dozen current and former White House insiders I talked to, the single most influential voice shaping American foreign policy aside from Potus himself," into "speech writer."

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/...o-became-obamas-foreign-policy-guru.html?_r=0

I earlier explained that Devos is a Conservative Christian activist - someone who's in the past criticized Trump (regarding pussy-gate). So, politics being what they are, Obama filled his administration with Muslim-activists and Black-issue-activists (both labeled differently but they are what they are) who most certainly have affected policy and contributed to the divisiveness in America that we see right now.

A good article on Betsy Devos:

https://edtechtimes.com/2016/11/30/betsy-devos-busting-myths-trumps-secretary-of-education-pick/

"DeVos has been called unqualified, but others argue she is just as qualified as many previous secretaries of education.

So, how does she compare to other secretaries of education, such as recently resigned education secretary Arne Duncan? Both Duncan and DeVos were educated at private colleges (DeVos at Michigan’s Calvin College and Duncan at Harvard). They both educated their children, at least in part, at private schools. And they both had unconventional routes to the office of Secretary of Education."

"The current U.S. Secretary of Education, John B. King, Jr., as described in his U.S. Department of Education biography, received his bachelor’s degree at Harvard and holds master’s and doctoral degrees from Columbia University’s Teachers College. Before becoming Secretary, King was the principal senior advisor in the Department of Education.

A Truman Scholar and a recipient of the James Madison Memorial Fellowship for teaching, King had previously served as a high school social studies teacher, as a co-founder and co-director of Roxbury Preparatory Charter School, as the managing director of a charter management group, and as the commissioner of education in New York.

Clearly a variety of paths can lead to the office of Secretary. DeVos’s meteoric rise from local education to the national stage isn’t unprecedented, nor is her lack of teaching experience. As a matter of fact, according to Education Week, only four of the eleven Secretaries of Education had K-12 teaching experience.

Experience aside, only time will tell what effect DeVos will have on U.S. education. But one thing we do know, is that by selecting Betsy DeVos as U.S. Secretary of Education, President-elect Donald Trump has signaled his continued interest in his campaign promise to support school choice.

'This pick really shows, you know, school choice issues will be the core of Trump’s education agenda,' NPR’s Eric Westervelt told All Things Considered."

 

[Jim Bob]

Did they have a choice?

Look up what school choice is about. When there is none, that is why some families home school.

 

[44nutman]

My family prefers home school.

Must not have taught the oldest boy to not molest his sisters nor cheat on his wife.
The rest of the brood, teach them to use a yahoo email for their Ashley Madison account.

 

[Rod1]

Don't play politics? You just spun foreign-affairs-guru, of whom the New York Times said, "[Ben Rhodes] is, according to the consensus of the two dozen current and former White House insiders I talked to, the single most influential voice shaping American foreign policy aside from Potus himself," into "speech writer."

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/...o-became-obamas-foreign-policy-guru.html?_r=0

I earlier explained that Devos is a Conservative Christian activist - someone who's in the past criticized Trump (regarding pussy-gate). So, politics being what they are, Obama filled his administration with Muslim-activists and Black-issue-activists (both labeled differently but they are what they are) who most certainly have affected policy and contributed to the divisiveness in America that we see right now.

A good article on Betsy Devos:

https://edtechtimes.com/2016/11/30/betsy-devos-busting-myths-trumps-secretary-of-education-pick/

"DeVos has been called unqualified, but others argue she is just as qualified as many previous secretaries of education.

So, how does she compare to other secretaries of education, such as recently resigned education secretary Arne Duncan? Both Duncan and DeVos were educated at private colleges (DeVos at Michigan’s Calvin College and Duncan at Harvard). They both educated their children, at least in part, at private schools. And they both had unconventional routes to the office of Secretary of Education."

"The current U.S. Secretary of Education, John B. King, Jr., as described in his U.S. Department of Education biography, received his bachelor’s degree at Harvard and holds master’s and doctoral degrees from Columbia University’s Teachers College. Before becoming Secretary, King was the principal senior advisor in the Department of Education.

A Truman Scholar and a recipient of the James Madison Memorial Fellowship for teaching, King had previously served as a high school social studies teacher, as a co-founder and co-director of Roxbury Preparatory Charter School, as the managing director of a charter management group, and as the commissioner of education in New York.

Clearly a variety of paths can lead to the office of Secretary. DeVos’s meteoric rise from local education to the national stage isn’t unprecedented, nor is her lack of teaching experience. As a matter of fact, according to Education Week, only four of the eleven Secretaries of Education had K-12 teaching experience.

Experience aside, only time will tell what effect DeVos will have on U.S. education. But one thing we do know, is that by selecting Betsy DeVos as U.S. Secretary of Education, President-elect Donald Trump has signaled his continued interest in his campaign promise to support school choice.

'This pick really shows, you know, school choice issues will be the core of Trump’s education agenda,' NPR’s Eric Westervelt told All Things Considered."

School choice? you mean like Trump University?

 

[Deleted member 196663]

Don't play politics? You just spun foreign-affairs-guru, of whom the New York Times said, "[Ben Rhodes] is, according to the consensus of the two dozen current and former White House insiders I talked to, the single most influential voice shaping American foreign policy aside from Potus himself," into "speech writer."

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/...o-became-obamas-foreign-policy-guru.html?_r=0

I earlier explained that Devos is a Conservative Christian activist - someone who's in the past criticized Trump (regarding pussy-gate). So, politics being what they are, Obama filled his administration with Muslim-activists and Black-issue-activists (both labeled differently but they are what they are) who most certainly have affected policy and contributed to the divisiveness in America that we see right now.

A good article on Betsy Devos:

https://edtechtimes.com/2016/11/30/betsy-devos-busting-myths-trumps-secretary-of-education-pick/

"DeVos has been called unqualified, but others argue she is just as qualified as many previous secretaries of education.

So, how does she compare to other secretaries of education, such as recently resigned education secretary Arne Duncan? Both Duncan and DeVos were educated at private colleges (DeVos at Michigan’s Calvin College and Duncan at Harvard). They both educated their children, at least in part, at private schools. And they both had unconventional routes to the office of Secretary of Education."

"The current U.S. Secretary of Education, John B. King, Jr., as described in his U.S. Department of Education biography, received his bachelor’s degree at Harvard and holds master’s and doctoral degrees from Columbia University’s Teachers College. Before becoming Secretary, King was the principal senior advisor in the Department of Education.

A Truman Scholar and a recipient of the James Madison Memorial Fellowship for teaching, King had previously served as a high school social studies teacher, as a co-founder and co-director of Roxbury Preparatory Charter School, as the managing director of a charter management group, and as the commissioner of education in New York.

Clearly a variety of paths can lead to the office of Secretary. DeVos’s meteoric rise from local education to the national stage isn’t unprecedented, nor is her lack of teaching experience. As a matter of fact, according to Education Week, only four of the eleven Secretaries of Education had K-12 teaching experience.

Experience aside, only time will tell what effect DeVos will have on U.S. education. But one thing we do know, is that by selecting Betsy DeVos as U.S. Secretary of Education, President-elect Donald Trump has signaled his continued interest in his campaign promise to support school choice.

'This pick really shows, you know, school choice issues will be the core of Trump’s education agenda,' NPR’s Eric Westervelt told All Things Considered."

His job is strategic communications/speech writer ("guru" is not a job). His influence has to do with the relationship he developed, which has nothing to do with being confirmed by congress. What was the point of bringing this up?

 

[dissolved]

His job is strategic communications/speech writer. His influence has to do with the relationship he developed, which has nothing to do with being confirmed by congress. What was the point of bringing this up?

Rhodes position was NOT just that of a communications/speech writer, he is in an advisory position and key figures with many times over his experience were passed over. Ultimately Obama's appointment was a shot at establishment and was seen as such by even many Democrats and former key defense and security personnel.

Who were the other candidates? First, Democrats for Education Reform warned Democrats to stay away from Trump's cabinet. Of the candidates, Rhee (who had some alignment but also was behind the Dream Act allowing for some illegal immigration [amongst a few other controversies]) had been pressured to decline the position by Democrats, Moscowitz at one point flat-out said she wouldn't accept the position, and Democratic Kevin Chavous likely wouldn't align with Trump's cabinet (further, has had some controversy in his family life with a son involved in a sexual assault charge).

Devos is a billionaire so does have experience handling large sums of money. I find Warren's line of questioning misleading regarding the financial aspects of the position. "Have you ever handled a trillion dollar budget?" Laughable. As if any of the candidates would have.

 

[Deleted member 196663]

Rhodes position was NOT just that of a communications/speech writer, he is in an advisory position and key figures with many times over his experience were passed over. Ultimately Obama's appointment was a shot at establishment and was seen as such by even many Democrats and former key defense and security personnel.

Who were the other candidates? First, Democrats for Education Reform warned Democrats to stay away from Trump's cabinet. Of the candidates, Rhee (who had some alignment but also was behind the Dream Act allowing for some illegal immigration [amongst a few other controversies]) had been pressured to decline the position by Democrats, Moscowitz at one point flat-out said she wouldn't accept the position, and Democratic Kevin Chavous likely wouldn't align with Trump's cabinet (further, has had some controversy in his family life with a son involved in a sexual assault charge).

Devos is a billionaire so does have experience handling large sums of money. I find Warren's line of questioning misleading regarding the financial aspects of the position. "Have you ever handled a trillion dollar budget?" Laughable. As if any of the candidates would have.

You don't get it. You're still comparing a position that is confirmed by Senate to a White House staffer position that isn't. Bringing it up in this thread is irrelevant.

 

[dissolved]

You don't get it. You're still comparing a position that is confirmed by Senate to a White House staffer position that isn't. Bringing it up in this thread is irrelevant.

Oh I get it.

Who should Trump have chosen to be confirmed by the Senate?

 

[luckyshot]

I'm not saying school choice is always a bad thing. But it is definitely bad to have a Secretary of Education with a clear business agenda and profit motive vested in pushing states towards any one model of education. There is a word for that: corruption.

 

[Deleted member 196663]

Oh I get it.

Who should Trump have chosen to be confirmed by the Senate?

So you agree that bringing up that story here was irrelevant? You kinda dismissed that point.

 

[dissolved]

So you agree that bringing up that story here was irrelevant? You kinda dismissed that point.

The story wasn't irrelevant. Obama brought in a person with zero experience for his own political reasons. Trump brought in someone with little experience because a) the pickings were extremely thin, and b) for his own political reasons.

It's politics. And Trump's reasons are much more justifiable.

 

[Deleted member 196663]

The story wasn't irrelevant. Obama brought in a person with zero experience for his own political reasons. Trump brought in someone with little experience because a) the pickings were extremely thin, and b) for his own political reasons.

It's politics. And Trump's reasons are much more justifiable.

There is a reason why her job requires Senate confirmation, and White House staffer positions don't. Comparing the two just makes absolutely no sense, imo.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

You don't give a shit about the future of my country as long as your "side" wins.

That's conservatism in the age of Trump.

NOTHING matters as long as the left, the liberals and the SJWs are pissed. A preposterously unqualified cabinet nominee? How do liberals feel about it? They're angry? Then I love it. Next question.

 

[dissolved]

There is a reason why her job requires Senate confirmation, and White House staffer positions don't. Comparing the two just makes absolutely no sense, imo.

Do you think Devos will be rejected by the Senate?

 

[AgonyandIrony]

Who cares ? Look what progressive led public education has given us ;

Such a bullshit garbage fire of a post. They should have a special belt for such a Partisan hack.

 

[The Sausage King]

Such a bullshit garbage fire of a post. They should have a special belt for such a Partisan hack.

truth hurts, huh ?

 

[Deleted member 196663]

Do you think Devos will be rejected by the Senate?

From what I understand, people aren't really nominated unless the backdoor politics has been done and they know they will get through. If I had to set the moneyline it would be -200 on her getting approved.