Elections Trump's approval rating

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The demise of the Democratic Party is the culmination of a four decade ethos shift that left what was once
the Party of the People a shriveled, impotent shell of it's former self.

It historically championed the Middle Class and during certain periods, those voters responded favorably and
Dems dominated federal elections. It also dominated the Supreme Court with Chief Justice Warren led a nearly
two decade run of consistently progressive case rulings.

The party is now dominated and run by holier than thou elites who wage social justice battles for a tiny percentage
in defiance of the opinions and views that the majority of voters hold.

In fact, if anyone dares to dispute or even question their stance and dictum, they vilify and demonize them,
ultimately 'cancelling' them with zero discussion or debate.

They need to jettison some of their loony, out of touch mouthpieces (AOC and the squad for starters)
and 're-imagine' their identity if they hope to salvage anything of their party.
 
essie said:
I’m not acting like it wasn’t a loss just putting it in perspective. It’s much smaller of a win than Biden in 20 and the two Obama wins. Demographics shifted but they shifted in 20 and back in 24, specifically in the suburbs. All I’m saying is every new presidency feels like they finally cracked the electoral code and will rule forever.

Trump is still one of the most unpopular presidents ever, can’t run again and has a small margin in the house. I know it feels good to dunk on the libs right now.
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Fair points, but there are many more aspects that contributed the Trump's win. Not gonna list em as its been done to death.

Now... factor in all the people on both sides of the aisle that were never-trumpers. In 2028 that will no longer be a factor. So wouldn't that be a huge factor in favor of the republicans in 2028 no matter who runs?
 
evansusmc2 said:
Fair points, but there are many more aspects that contributed the Trump's win. Not gonna list em as its been done to death.

Now... factor in all the people on both sides of the aisle that were never-trumpers. In 2028 that will no longer be a factor. So wouldn't that be a huge factor in favor of the republicans in 2028 no matter who runs?
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It's certainly possible! That's one thing that is so remarkable is how high his floor is but how capped his ceiling is. Which is to say his base is the strongest in terms of they will always turn out for him no matter what and they vote. But his ceiling is capped by yeah just how divisive he is, like you said a lot of never Trumpers. So the question in 28 would be how much does Trump being out of the race shave off his base and how much does it add from groups that were so put off by him?

Assuming it is Vance I still think the coalition that just hates Trump will be as strong, if not stronger. Vance had truly abysmal approval ratings for a running VP. His debate performance and Walz poor debate performance did help him but he's still running a few points behind Trump. My gut says 2028 would come down to where the economy is at. If it's soaring and there is less culture war stuff I could see Vance winning. If the economy is struggling and the left finds a way to communicate its social agenda again I could see it being pretty rough for Vance.

Right now to be clear I would favor Vance but maybe just slightly, and that's because the trending down approval ratings signal a public that is already growing sour on Trump 2.0. But again, they are in the position where they could easily win. One thing I am so struck by is this narrative that the Democrats are done for. It's easy to forget Kamala did get 75 million votes. That's a lot! So there are still voters out there, we just need to pick up the stragglers imo.
 
Yorick the Wiser said:
The demise of the Democratic Party is the culmination of a four decade ethos shift that left what was once
the Party of the People a shriveled, impotent shell of it's former self.

It historically championed the Middle Class and during certain periods, those voters responded favorably and
Dems dominated federal elections. It also dominated the Supreme Court with Chief Justice Warren led a nearly
two decade run of consistently progressive case rulings.

The party is now dominated and run by holier than thou elites who wage social justice battles for a tiny percentage
in defiance of the opinions and views that the majority of voters hold.

In fact, if anyone dares to dispute or even question their stance and dictum, they vilify and demonize them,
ultimately 'cancelling' them with zero discussion or debate.

They need to jettison some of their loony, out of touch mouthpieces (AOC and the squad for starters)
and 're-imagine' their identity if they hope to salvage anything of their party.
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There is some truth in there but a lot of it is applicable to both sides. The Republicans have the majority so depending on how well or bad that they do, the tides could shift one or another.
 
filthybliss said:
There is some truth in there but a lot of it is applicable to both sides. The Republicans have the majority so depending on how well or bad that they do, the tides could shift one or another.
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Waited of course for the 'what about them!' response.
I wasn't intending a comparison discussion.
We could go back and forth with that angle for some time.
I was simply pointing out, and lamenting for that matter, the decline and failure of a once great party.
 
Yorick the Wiser said:
Waited of course for the 'what about them!' response.
I wasn't intending a comparison discussion.
We could go back and forth with that angle for some time.
I was simply pointing out, and lamenting for that matter, the decline and failure of a once great party.
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I mean I agree democrats got complacent and cocky.
 
Americans worshipping their leaders always reminds of nut megs fight fans who think all the fight build up hype is real. President takes a photo with a baby ''that's out our leader looking out for the children'' ... in Europe even the good leaders are looked at with extreme skeptism, which is why every single UK PM you see is either being mocked or looked down on no matter how well they're doing. The logic is that leadership is meant to be an undesirable position. The scrutiny levels are way higher in parliamentary democracies. I mean it is WWE land so what do we expect?
 
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What is happening in the media is the same thing that happened surrounding Biden and Kamala. Media said Biden was fine, but we all saw the opposite. Until right before Kamala took over when they couldn't hide the truth anymore. With Kamala, constant news on how she is winning over this and that, and all the billions she raised....in reality it was all bullshit. Agenda driven news was not telling the story that most of America could not stand her. I sat there scratching my head when I saw her speeches because she was terrible. It was all a ruse.
Now we have constant coverage of the small percentage of people that hate Trump and are against Elon. When in reality, most Americans agree with what is going on. Truth is MOST Americans are happy that we are:

1. Deporting criminals and gang members.
2. Attacking Government waste and spending.
3. Holding other countries accountable for their borders.
4. Trying for peace instead of writing blank checks for foreign wars.
5. Trying to stop men from competing against women in sports.

Meanwhile Dems polls continue to drop and they:
1. Wear pink to protest Trump and for women's rights.....After they declined a bill, PROTECTING women's rights.
2. Are against cutting Government jobs that have no value, including people clocking in with no actual job.
3. Are against looking into USAID which is now proven to be a huge waste and not what people think it was.
4. Are supporting protecting migrants including ones already IN JAIL FFS.
5. Can't even clap for a special moment for a cancer child.
 
It will go up, it will go down. It will still be higher than Democrat approval, which is what the lefties really need to focus on. You'll need Trump to hit sub 30's to start getting excited. That's how shit the Dems are right now, and I can't imagine that mocking a child cancer survivor is helping.
 
filthybliss said:
I’m not gonna take the moral purity test from you. Trump literally used a baby that just lost his parents in a shooting as a prop for a picture. Doesn’t get more trashy than that.

President Trump smiles, gives thumbs up in photo with baby orphaned in El Paso massacre

cbsaustin.com cbsaustin.com
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Same thing democrats do with shit head criminals. At least Trump does it classy unlike you all scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Democrats are such goofballs and your tears are delicious.
 
UberHere said:
Same thing democrats do with shit head criminals. At least Trump does it classy unlike you all scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Democrats are such goofballs and your tears are delicious.
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You think that is the same as using a newborn orphan as a prop?

Shameless.
 
filthybliss said:
There is some truth in there but a lot of it is applicable to both sides. The Republicans have the majority so depending on how well or bad that they do, the tides could shift one or another.
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Republicans are definitely going to screw all this up and Democrats will be back in the race for 2028. However, the future looks grim either way with the sad state of affairs that both parties are stuck in.

How hard is it for either of them to just do well and not fuck up horribly?
 
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