Elections Trump: We have to use military to target radicals and enemy from within

Pentagon already passed this. Now what? Still vaginal pain?
 
what is being intentionally misunderstood here though? I agree that the left often allows themselves to be intentionally trolled by trump practicing double speak but this is not one of those cases.

here trump really did suggest using the military not on illegal migrants but on us citizens. only a liar would pretend otherwise.
So the implication (your implication) is Trump is willing to order the military to execute citizens? What does "use" mean to you, in this context and what scenario could you see Trump invoking the military when it's not required? You remember he was SHOT AT right? How does anyone address groups of people who are mentally willing to shoot at a person especially when they know they've "lost" this game in their heads? Now, I'm asking these questions in good faith and attempting to give you credit enough, so read it over and try to be objective...

My point wasn't about trolling by Trump, it's to express in almost every instance when he's accused of some malfeasance and one goes to the source it's obvious his intent isn't what being ascribed...

Trump cures cancer so Trump hates doctors and puts them out of work...

There has been multiple instances where Trump probably should have exercised some force yet in every one he exercised his judgement instead to allow/expect the state governance and/or the capitol police/Pelosi to use their authority (which of course they all failed at) to handle. He's obviously not stupid despite the deranged accusations and he knows the optics and the implications of invoking the national guard, let alone being in such an extreme but believable scenario as to see the military as a solution...

And I suspect you've lost the plot on what deems one a "liar"...
 
So the implication (your implication) is Trump is willing to order the military to execute citizens? What does "use" mean to you, in this context and what scenario could you see Trump invoking the military when it's not required? You remember he was SHOT AT right? How does anyone address groups of people who are mentally willing to shoot at a person especially when they know they've "lost" this game in their heads? Now, I'm asking these questions in good faith and attempting to give you credit enough, so read it over and try to be objective...

My point wasn't about trolling by Trump, it's to express in almost every instance when he's accused of some malfeasance and one goes to the source it's obvious his intent isn't what being ascribed...

Trump cures cancer so Trump hates doctors and puts them out of work...

There has been multiple instances where Trump probably should have exercised some force yet in every one he exercised his judgement instead to allow/expect the state governance and/or the capitol police/Pelosi to use their authority (which of course they all failed at). He's obviously not stupid despite the deranged accusations and he knows the optics and the implications of invoking the national guard, let alone being in such an extreme but believable scenario as to see the military as a solution...

And I suspect you've lost the plot on what deems one a "liar"...
I listened to that interview and fully expected it to be one of those times when the left is trolled by Trump using double speak. But in this case, he clearly is talking about Democrats who like Pelosi who he mentioned in particular, serve our country and just have a different ideology than him.

He literally included Pelosi in his discussion about using the military, which is illegal to do, on American citizens.

You cannot apologize or obfuscate your way out of this. It's what Trump said and the question isn't "how will he go about it?" That's an obfuscation. The question is who on earth could possibly support a traitorous human being like Trump who is willing to talk about doing something illegal against good solid American citizens who just simply disagree with him?

A person willing to do and say those things could do and say anything and is reckless, dangerous and anti-American.

All you guys have left now is that yes, Trump is a traitorous villain who would harm American citizens who disagree with him but he couldn't possibly accomplish it because the government has mechanisms to stop him. And when you think about it, that's a fool's argument.


You guys are all being dog walked down the slippery slope to violence by Trump, recklessly and foolishly and because you have enough hate in your heart that you're willing to obfuscate for the obvious terror that Trump is threatening on human beings.
 
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I addressed performance by pointing out that too often people's opinion on performance is largely driven by how they feel about the intended policy direction. Most of your post is about how people feel about the intended objectives. The one performance element you mention is immigration but Congress had an immigration bill ready to pass and the other candidate scuttled it. It's crazy to then say that the VP failed at immigration when Congress had a bill ready to go.

And her performance in interviews is absolutely irrelevant to her ability to do a job as an elected politician...unless we're electing people to make pretty speeches and give interviews. And if people are doing that then, imo, they're idiots. 99% of the job isn't public facing.

If you ask me, fixating on campaign performance is worthless. It's like picking your car mechanic because he's a great guy at the bar. I'm a lawyer, I know brilliant lawyers who are terrible in front of juries. The performance element of the job is not one of their strengths. There are brilliant doctors who have very poor bedside manner but they're phenomenal at diagnosing and treating patients.

I know this conversation is about Harris but there is a relevant Trump issue here. A large part of Trump's appeal is how he makes his base feel about him. He's extremely effective at communicating a sense of strength or competence or whatever but many people who have watched him perform the job say he's bad at it. And not bad in the "I don't agree with your choices" way but bad in the "He doesn't actually know what he's doing" way.

I bring it up because it's important to separate one's feelings about the individual from their actual job.

None of your criticisms about Harris are about her failing to do the jobs she was elected to do. They're all about your feelings on the intended objectives of the Democrat administration or her campaigning. Tell me where she failed to do the job itself, not which objectives you disagreed with or that you don't like how she comes across on tv.

Let's do an experiment. Im gonna do the exact same thing you did, but keep the person anonymous. Im sure you can figure out who it is pretty easily but meh. You tell me if they make a good choice for President of the united states. Im just gonna keep the resume you made and alter it slightly for the new prospect. I went ahead and showed the edits with brackets just to demonstrate similarities despite changes.



JUDICIAL SIDE:
[He's] a law school graduate so a more than passing familiarity with the Constitution and the general intent behind our government. [Practiced law and was investigator for the Consumer Protection Division of the Office of the Attorney General], has direct experience with elements of law and order. Enforcement, recidivism, understanding what a populace responds to in that area (which is separate from if everyone agrees with they're conclusions).

[He] was never a judge but [his role as a practicing attorney and working in the Attorney Generals Office] brought [him] pretty close to understanding those responsibilities.


LEGISLATIVE SIDE:
[Elected to the House of Representatives]. [He was also] elected to the Senate. Meaning that [he] has experience in the legislative side of the government. The people who craft the laws of the land.

EXECUTIVE SIDE:
[He] spent years as Vice President. Which means [he] spent years operating on the branch of government responsible for carrying out the laws Congress writes.

[He was head of the Council of Competitiveness and the first chairman of the National Space Council]

If you can look past how we might feel about individual policy choices, [he's] one of the few people I can think of who has publicly elected experience related to all 3 elements of the government. It's hard to say that makes someone a "poor choice" for President.



Now, you tell me if you think this person is a good candidate for President of the United States. As you can see, it's very similar accomplishments to your criteria.





For reference, heres the post of yours Im using as the template:

JUDICIAL SIDE:
She's a law school graduate so a more than passing familiarity with the Constitution and the general intent behind our government. She was an elected Attorney General so she has direct experience with elements of law and order. Enforcement, recidivism, understanding what a populace responds to in that area (which is separate from if everyone agrees with her conclusions).

She was never a judge but her role as an elected AG brought her pretty close to understanding those responsibilities.


LEGISLATIVE SIDE:
She was elected to the Senate for one of the largest states in the country. Meaning that she experience in the legislative side of the government. The people who craft the laws of the land.

EXECUTIVE SIDE:
She spent 4 years as Vice President. Which means she spent 4 years operating on the branch of government responsible for carrying out the laws Congress writes.

She was on the Budget committee, the Judiciary Committee, and Homeland Security.

If you can look past how we might feel about her individual policy choices, she's one of the few people I can think of who has publicly elected experience related to all 3 elements of the government. It's hard to say that makes someone a "poor choice" for President.


I'll answer the rest of your post in greater detail, but let's do this first.
 
no. there is nothing remotely close in Kamala that makes her even on the same level as the villainous trump. our conversation about trump being far far worse is about the thing he does again and again. he says terrible divisive hateful things to tear people apart and troll the left. he just did it saying we should use the military against us citizens.

his words are divisive and dangerous and reckless and unfit for a president to utter.

let me guess... you are going to pretend he did not say what he just said?

you guy are hacks.
Why did you answer this post a second time?
 
Kamala's career is such a mess and a failure that it's borderline criminal.
As opposed to a convicted criminal/ felon/ rapist?

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I don’t have an opinion on the topic but it’s not unprecedented to use federal powers against citizens. Consider labor rebellion’s squashed by federal troops, or protests that were fought against using active soldiers. Nonetheless that the FBI for decades sought out and oppressed, imprisoned, threatened “enemies” of the US govt under director Hoover. The point is *if trump actually did these things, it’s really in keeping with American traditions.
When has a president ever expressed as a platform using the executive power against US citizens at a military capacity?

We know our country has done unscrupulous things, but has a president ever expressed that Americans are enemies and are to be dealt with by the military?
 
I listened to that interview and fully expected it to be one of those times when the left is trolled by Trump using double speak. But in this case, he clearly is talking about Democrats who like Pelosi who he mentioned in particular, serve our country and just have a different ideology than him.

He literally included Pelosi in his discussion about using the military, which is illegal to do, on American citizens.

You cannot apologize or obfuscate your way out of this. It's what Trump said and the question isn't "how will he go about it?" That's an obfuscation. The question is who on earth could possibly support a traitorous human being like Trump who is willing to talk about doing something illegal against good solid American citizens who just simply disagree with him?

A person willing to do and say those things could do and say anything and is reckless, dangerous and anti-American.

All you guys have left now is that yes, Trump is a traitorous villain who would harm American citizens who disagree with him but he couldn't possibly accomplish it because the government has mechanisms to stop him. And when you think about it, that's a fool's argument.


You guys are all being dog walked down the slippery slope to violence by Trump, recklessly and foolishly and because you have enough hate in your heart that you're willing to obfuscate for the obvious terror that Trump is threatening on human beings.
He had the opportunity and didn't... End of story...

Stay afraid but it's not helping you, me or America's future...
 
He had the opportunity and didn't... End of story...

Stay afraid but it's not helping you, me or America's future...
Your basic plan is elect the guy that brags about wanting to illegally use the military on human beings and just trust that he won't really do it because he didn't do it last time he bragged about it.

You and I both know that that's not a sane thought process or approach.

Even just the violence and division that his speech foments is reason enough to make him unelectable and unfit and you know that, but since it's the guy you want, you're overlooking it.
 
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Your basic plan is elect the guy that brags about wanting to illegally use the military on human beings and just trust that he won't really do it because he didn't do it last time he bragged about it.

You and I both know that that's not a sane thought process or approach.

Even just the violence and division that his speech foments is reason enough to make him unelectable and unfit and you know that, but since it's the guy you want, you're overlooking it.
No... My plan is to elect someone who has proven himself and isn't completely inept... As well as electing someone who is of the people, for the people, not establishment made and indebted... We can most likely trust him to do what he's done when presented with scenarios where he had the options, and if for whatever reason he goes rogue we will deal with that as we would with any president who goes rogue...

The secret service apparently allowed some muppet to take shots at him, right? Wouldn't they at the very least be so porous as to not be able to protect him in the case he does something to disregard the Constitution? Many people who vote Trump love the country and constitution much more than any individual and they would not be ok with him going rogue, Trump himself respects that despite your fears...

And no, his speeches are in effort to unite not divide under a shared appreciation for common sense and a love for what America is and what we must remain, a country of Liberty, generosity, civility, prosperity, humanity, and a beacon for the world to aspire to. Now if you or anyone doesn't think America should be united under a common appreciation for what it is and had been then obviously it's you who desires division... There are serious problems with aspects of America but it's the establishment who will do anything to prevent these aspects from being addressed, not Trump... Obviously...
 
No... My plan is to elect someone who has proven himself and isn't completely inept... As well as electing someone who is of the people, for the people, not establishment made and indebted... We can most likely trust him to do what he's done when presented with scenarios where he had the options, and if for whatever reason he goes rogue we will deal with that as we would with any president who goes rogue...

The secret service apparently allowed some muppet to take shots at him, right? Wouldn't they at the very least be so porous as to not be able to protect him in the case he does something to disregard the Constitution? Many people who vote Trump love the country and constitution much more than any individual and they would not be ok with him going rogue, Trump himself respects that despite your fears...

And no, his speeches are in effort to unite not divide under a shared appreciation for common sense and a love for what America is and what we must remain, a country of Liberty, generosity, civility, prosperity, humanity, and a beacon for the world to aspire to. Now if you or anyone doesn't think America should be united under a common appreciation for what it is and had been then obviously it's you who desires division... There are serious problems with aspects of America but it's the establishment who will do anything to prevent these aspects from being addressed, not Trump... Obviously...
and the part I said which is undeniable.
 
and the part I said which is undeniable.
Which part? His speeches fomenting violence? Of course that's inaccurate and another example of people misunderstanding due to their bias and fear. But what we do know is plenty of political puppets have called for literal violence without consequence and who when they fomented violence, they proceeded to encourage more and they funded those who committed said violence and destruction. How do you justify that?

Saying "let your voices be heard" doesn't seem like fomenting violence to me... "Violent protests will not stop and they should not" seems like someone supporting and promoting violence, right?
 
Which part? His speeches fomenting violence? Of course that's inaccurate and another example of people misunderstanding due to their bias and fear. But what we do know is plenty of political puppets have called for literal violence without consequence and who when they fomented violence, they proceeded to encourage more and they funded those who committed said violence and destruction. How do you justify that?
Saying "let your voices be heard" doesn't seem like fomenting violence to me... "Violent protests will not stop and they should not" seems like someone supporting and promoting violence, right?
there is no misunderstanding what he said about using the national guard or military on lefties including nancy pelosi. trump forgot to use cleverly crafted double speak in that instance. he just said it out loud and plainly. you know this but as as fellow liar will pretend you don't see it.

trump is a thug and a degradation of everything our country stands for.

you guys are just so degraded yourselves that you cant tell.
 
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