Crime Trump-Ukraine Megathread v4

[weed]

wrong fred

 

[JamesRussler]

This is it, is it not?
...Or is it?

 

[andnowweknow]

wrong fred

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Can you please site source when you make these claims because there is 0 evidence anything you ever said has happened. You are no better than Trump. You think you can say wild ass shit and get away with it. The only issue is that you aren’t the POTUS.

And to pull a page from the right. Obama wasn’t running for office and he used the US Intel agencies to investigate what appeared to be foreign influence on the 2016 election. By the way he was right.

He’s a republican. What do you expect from these people? Honesty? They’re liars and criminals

 

[JamesRussler]

That’s a pretty accurate picture of Dems right now. Down 30 points in the final quarter, looking defeated, feeling defeated...

 

[andnowweknow]

That’s a pretty accurate picture of Dems right now. Down 30 points in the final quarter, looking defeated, feeling defeated...

You've just given up even trying lol.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Yes I said that and you assumed I meant something I did not ---even though I have repeatedly told you I did not mean he should be prosecuted. And yes you made the same ignorant and willingly dishonest assumption in the last thread. Once I proved that to you you tucked tail and quit replying and rightly so. I think today you have had a lot of caffeine and are feeling spunky once again....


So here it is AGAIN Mike. I think Trump ought to be prosecuted to the fullest extent possible, aggressively. Biden is guilty but there is no reason to dig all that up again and so he ought to be abandoned as the corrupt piece of shit he is. No one should defend him or accuse him from the democratic side. Instead of going after Biden or stupidly defending him (I've said this several times) we should seriously and publicly stand up for legislation that makes it illegal to do what Biden's son and countless others do and did which is obviously pay for play.

And lastly the dems are missing the ball here as this is a chance to prove to the whole disillusioned country that we meaningfully stand against corruption in all of its forms --- no matter who it effects.

Any leader with vision and integrity could turn this whole debacle into a win for the democrats if only they had the moral fortitude to want to do so.


I hope I made this simple enough that even a MIKE could understand it. Now kindly quit nipping at my heel like a puppy.

what is Biden guilty of?

 

[franklinstower]

what is Biden guilty of?

Are you done lying about my positions Mike? Can you concede that you have misstated my position many many times? If not then fuck off with your questions. You have no credibility with me at all and I used to think you were a decent poster.

 

[JamesRussler]

You've just given up even trying lol.

No you’re just making this easy, by posting gifs identifying with a losing team.

 

[Oliver Clothesoff]

Are you done lying about my positions Mike? Can you concede that you have misstated my position many many times? If not then fuck off with your questions. You have no credibility with me at all and I used to think you were a decent poster.

You stepped out of line son. You're not allowed to do that.

 

[JamesRussler]

Are you done lying about my positions Mike? Can you concede that you have misstated my position many many times? If not then fuck off with your questions. You have no credibility with me at all and I used to think you were a decent poster.

He’s a can. Don’t take Mike McCann too seriously. I get what you’re saying about Biden tho. While I disagree about Trump, I think we all should just leave Biden alone. Trump shouldn’t waste energy on him. We’ll make sure it never happens again by passing a law to outlaw this type of influence peddling. In the mean time, Dems should just dodge the bullet by nominating someone other than Joe.

 

[LuchaBear]

 

[andnowweknow]

No you’re just making this easy, by posting gifs identifying with a losing team.

Same team bro. You're acting like a Chi-Com.

We're all...

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Also
If they're interfering in the past, that's a direct violation of the temporal prime directive.

Also, if they're interfering then they're doing something and not nothing

 

[PainIsLIfe]

On the Bush', Cheney, etc cases, one need only look at defense contracts. That was more general corruption than the types of emolument violations Trump engages, but corruption nonetheless.

On your last sentence, I didn't think I needed to label China as communist and not label Ukraine or Australia as the same. Jesus.

Keep defending the traitor.

You were talking out your ass and won't admit it.

You know Trump didn't ask China to investigate Biden, but your leftist news sources are saying it so you feel compelled to repeat it.

Keep defending the party that actually accepted and paid for foreign interference in the 2016 election.

 

[xcvbn]

Yes I said that and you assumed I meant something I did not ---even though I have repeatedly told you I did not mean he should be prosecuted. And yes you made the same ignorant and willingly dishonest assumption in the last thread. Once I proved that to you you tucked tail and quit replying and rightly so. I think today you have had a lot of caffeine and are feeling spunky once again....


So here it is AGAIN Mike. I think Trump ought to be prosecuted to the fullest extent possible, aggressively. Biden is guilty but there is no reason to dig all that up again and so he ought to be abandoned as the corrupt piece of shit he is. No one should defend him or accuse him from the democratic side. Instead of going after Biden or stupidly defending him (I've said this several times) we should seriously and publicly stand up for legislation that makes it illegal to do what Biden's son and countless others do and did which is obviously pay for play.

And lastly the dems are missing the ball here as this is a chance to prove to the whole disillusioned country that we meaningfully stand against corruption in all of its forms --- no matter who it effects.

Any leader with vision and integrity could turn this whole debacle into a win for the democrats if only they had the moral fortitude to want to do so.


I hope I made this simple enough that even a MIKE could understand it. Now kindly quit nipping at my heel like a puppy.

Devout liberals kneeling to their establishment liberal gods are the holdup to the Political Revolution. They've been conned into thinking progressive change is enough, when it's the act of progressive change that moves democracy forward.

This is where the right wingies are correct in their criticisms of liberal "wokeness" and their incessant identity politics(the essence of neoliberalism).

This may come as a shock but if we want to end the corruption, it has to start with the corrupt being held to account- even family members(what a radical idea!) But the establishment Dems are just upset at the corruption of the other side not that their own are just as corrupted.

 

[franklinstower]

Devout liberals kneeling to their establishment liberal gods are the holdup to the Political Revolution. They've been conned into thinking progressive change is enough, when it's the act of progressive change that moves democracy forward.

This is where the right wingies are correct in their criticisms of liberal "wokeness" and their incessant identity politics(the essence of neoliberalism).

This may come as a shock but if we want to end the corruption, it has to start with the corrupt being held to account- even family members(what a radical idea!) But the establishment Dems are just upset at the corruption of the other side not that their own are just as corrupted.

I agree for the most part. I mean Trump is an evil aberration and the republicans are MORE bought and paid for than the dems IMO but both sides are way too far gone to have any moral authority. We cant go back to what it was like before Trump. We either get worse or better than before. I don't see the dems helping us get better at this point.

 

[xcvbn]

what is Biden guilty of?

Being a corrupt sack of shit

And racist. Definitely racist with his Strom Thurmand infatuation

 

[xcvbn]

I agree for the most part. I mean Trump is an evil aberration and the republicans are MORE bought and paid for than the dems IMO but both sides are way too far gone to have any moral authority. We cant go back to what it was like before Trump. We either get worse or better than before. I don't see the dems helping us get better at this point.

I think there are some on the right and more within the Democratic party who aren't too far gone, but neither amount to anywhere near the number of those who can help affect real change that aren't active within any party.

These are the people we should focus on. However, we should also maintain the front of commandeering the democratic party from within.

This is winnable. Ignore the too far gone. Focus on the message and keep fighting.

 

[bobgeese]

Being a corrupt sack of shit

And racist. Definitely racist with his Strom Thurmand infatuation

Not to mention telling racist jokes on camera.