Crime Trump-Ukraine Megathread v4

[Confucamus]

Considering that the difference consists of a total of 78K votes TOTAL across 3 states and electoral votes are almost entirely an all or nothing affair... yes, it was very, very close.

Out of 129 million votes cast, the difference between winning and losing was .00006% of the total votes cast.

Remind me of the result....

 

[Ophydian]

304-227 in electoral votes is close to you? They smoke that good stuff on your small bus, huh?

That might seem like a large amount. How about a throw one out there, Trump won by less than 2% margin of victory.

 

[Low Test With da Best]

Lets remember the IG says there were 6 sources or corroborators he spoke to that made up the WB substantiation for his report.

Trump is now on a very vocal hunt for those 6 people saying they are spies and committed treason. They are vulnerable and exposed and maybe the only way for them to get legal protection of the system is to, themselves file a whistle blower report before they get outed and punished by Trump with none of the protections the WB system provides.

You might see all 6 forced to come out,not because they want to but because they feel they have to because Trump is coming for them otherwise.

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2nd Official Is Weighing Whether to Blow the Whistle on Trump’s Ukraine Dealings
The official, a member of the intelligence community, was interviewed by the inspector general to corroborate the original whistle-blower’s account.


...The official has more direct information about the events than the first whistle-blower, whose complaint that Mr. Trump was using his power to get Ukraine to investigate his political rivals touched off an impeachment inquiry. The second official is among those interviewed by the intelligence community inspector general to corroborate the allegations of the original whistle-blower, one of the people said.

Appreciate the link.

Still tenuous IMO having 3rd hand info, first and second of which are anonymous, that the person is thinking about filing a complaint, but sounds logically valid compared to expectations.

 

[Julius_Caesar]

Just gonna leave this here until after the 3rd of November

 

[Striderxdj]

Remind me of the result....

I will take that misdirection away from the point as your concession.

 

[franklinstower]

lol at you Lib's playing 2D chess while Trump is playing 5D.

The best way to drain a swamp is to lure in all the swamp monsters first and then execute them.

The best way to find all the countries who might interfere illegally in your elections is to invite them all in (Russia, Ukraine and now China) to do so and then spring your trap and catch them all.

Trump is secretly working with a bipartisan group (Rudy and Barr) and they are going to end corruption as we know it.

Amazingly it took me a minute or so to realize this was parody. Its not far off at all from what these guys actually think.

 

[Joe]

Lmao there goes one trump defense. It was not direct! Der!

 

[hillelslovak87]

Lmao there goes one trump defense. It was not direct! Der!

Say it doesn't matter or isn't real, talk about Biden, make fun of liberals because Trump isn't in jail right now. Surely a good strategy that won't age like milk.

 

[franklinstower]

If the dems had any political sense AT ALL they would burn Biden and Trump down on this together. As it is they are losing credibility with way too many people trying to pretend that Biden is not corrupt.

You can say all you want that there is no PROOF and that is true but I know a liar when I see one and so does the average person and the average person is more angry about corruption than almost anything else.

This whole thing is a chance for the dems to come out and actually stand for what is right but they wont.

 

[andnowweknow]

Lmao there goes one trump defense. It was not direct! Der!

 

[xcvbn]

If the dems had any political sense AT ALL they would burn Biden and Trump down on this together. As it is they are losing credibility with way too many people trying to pretend that Biden is not corrupt.

You can say all you want that there is no PROOF and that is true but I know a liar when I see one and so does the average person and the average person is more angry about corruption than almost anything else.

This whole thing is a chance for the dems to come out and actually stand for what is right but they wont.

Dude- if you think any of this is corruption idk what to tell you

After graduating from law school, Biden took a position at MBNA America, a major bank holding company which was also a major contributor to his father's political campaigns. By 1998, he had risen to the rank of executive vice president.[2] From 1998 to 2001, he served in the United States Department of Commerce, focusing on ecommerce policy.[14] Biden became a lobbyist in 2001, co-founding the firm of Oldaker, Biden & Belair.[15] According to Adam Entous of The New Yorker, Biden and his father established a relationship in which "Biden wouldn't ask Hunter about his lobbying clients, and Hunter wouldn't tell his father about them."[2] In 2006, Biden and his uncle, James Biden, attempted to buy Paradigm, a hedge-fund group, but the deal fell apart before completion.[2] That same year, Biden was appointed by President George W. Bush to the board of directors of Amtrak; he served on the board of Amtrak from 2006 to 2009.[14]

Later career, 2009–present
After his father was elected as vice president in 2008, Biden resigned from his position on the Amtrak board of directors and left his career as a lobbyist.[2] Along with Christopher Heinz, son of Teresa Heinz and stepson of John Kerry, and Devon Archer, Biden founded the investment firm Rosemont Seneca Partners.[15][16]

He also became an attorney with the law firm Boies Schiller Flexner LLP,[2] and founded Eudora Global, a venture capital firm.[13]

U.S. Navy Reserve
In May 2013, Biden was selected as a direct commission officer in the U.S. Navy Reserve, receiving an age-related waiver and a second waiver due to a past drug-related incident.[17] Joe Biden administered the commissioning oath to Hunter Biden in a White House ceremony.[2]

The following month, Biden tested positive for cocaine during a urinalysis test and was subsequently discharged.[18] According to Biden, he had unwittingly consumed the cocaine after being given cigarettes he believed were surreptitiously laced with the drug.[2

That's just definitely-not-nepotism that's typical for Washington

Actually nothing to see here but have you heard what Trump said on TV! China! Impeachment!

 

[franklinstower]

Dude- if you think any of this is corruption idk what to tell you

That's just definitely-not-nepotism that's typical for Washington

Actually nothing to see here but have you heard what Trump said on TV! China! Impeachment!

I don't know what you mean sorry.

 

[hillelslovak87]

Yet here we are, the Chinese give Hunter Biden 2 billion and a spy satellite, and you libs don't care, do you?

 

[Striderxdj]

That's just definitely-not-nepotism that's typical for Washington

I'm pretty sure its both... but the problem isn't so much fighting corruption, its singling out targets.

You can't have it both ways where you claim to be against corruption but find nothing wrong with someone only selecting politically advantageous instances of potential corruption, misusing government resources, withholding aid as a bargaining chip, and leveraging your position to do it.

 

[xcvbn]

I don't know what you mean sorry.

The part where Hunter failed a drug test a month after sworn in by his father? Or perhaps quickly becoming VP of a bank who heavily funded his dad's campaign?

 

[xcvbn]

I'm pretty sure its both... but the problem isn't so much fighting corruption, its singling out targets.

You can't have it both ways where you claim to be against corruption but find nothing wrong with someone only selecting politically advantageous instances of potential corruption misusing government resources to do it, withholding aid as a bargaining chip, and leveraging your position to do it.

And that's the problem with liberals. Their only goal is to take down the corruption on the other side of the aisle

 

[King of Fists]

And that's the problem with liberals. Their only goal is to take down the corruption on the other side of the aisle

"Their only goal" bro you sound like you watch too much Fox n Friends.

Of course in political investigations, political parties are more interested in investigating the other side than themselves. That's basic human nature. Trumptard 101 playbook is to take that line of logic and use it to excuse any misdeed, because "the other guys aren't perfect either!"

I'm not sure why *that* would be your problem with liberals, that's simple human nature that is being grossly shoved in your face by the current admin..if that's what you don't like about "liberals" I can only imagine how much you must hate "conservatives"

In reality, neither "liberal" not "conservative" have anything to do with this absolute shit show the US presidency has become. Trump is an outlier to the office in terms of disreputable character which is where all this is really coming from.

 

[hillelslovak87]

And that's the problem with liberals. Their only goal is to take down the corruption on the other side of the aisle

The vast majority of us don't care what side of the aisle it is. We want corruption, money in politics, sweetheart deals, etc etc etc rooted out. Why? Because a cursory glance at the world's first republic would show you why shredding norms and being lawless leads to the downfall of a nation. Ethics buttresses this view of history, and tells us, along with the writings and actions of our founding fathers, why as Americans, corruption is something we should intrinsically be against.

We have to keep saying this: The President is lobbying Communist nations to investigate US citizens who are running against him in a presidential race.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

And what about endless propaganda tweets like they are real news?

Are you fucking serious?
Gtfo with that shit.

 

[superpunch]

At this point, the liberals have just "cried wolf" too much. Even if anything they say is true, who can believe them? And who actually cares anymore?