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Well, I don’t like the options you put forth and I will stick with my assertion that antifa is a problem that needs a response-but not the military or guard. An fbi led task force with some state troopers in a joint-task force would be ideal. PPB doesn’t seem to wait long for nt to engage and haven’t for years, so they don’t have to participate.
Ok, and that's fair enough; the problem remains that (misleading) trumped up fears about antifa are being used to trample the constitution, but at the very least i'm happy to accept you rejecting the idea that it should be used to federalize the national guard. Well, for now anyway. The other issue here, taking your idea (for example), is that contrary to what twitter and the Trump administration may have you believe, there actually isn't anything remotely resembling a large, cohesive organization here. Most of the problem "antifa" last time around were quasi transient anarchist types squatting in the same locations and showing up just enough to get everyone else tear gassed. And that's what we have now, just not aggravated and congealed to nearly the same extent. That will 100% change -dramatically- if/when the federal presence builds more aggressively into the rest of the city, particularly anywhere in or adjacent to the east side of downtown.
See, this is something i've been repeating over and over and over for literally years. I was downtown constantly last time. I saw exactly how unpleasant this can be. Not on twitter, not on the news, not on any social media or word of mouth from my cousin. Me, in person. And I wanted to grab the nearest of these little shits and fucking choke them every single day I was there. But it's not terrorism, nor is it anything the regular non-military police can't handle. When something escalates past that point, then it needs to be our governor of our state making decisions about the national guard. And it vanished almost entirely from the face of the city when the feds, and particularly the camera crews, left. They feed off attention. But the Trump administration isn't railing against the antifa hordes to safeguard freedom; no, what they want is further escalation in order to "justify" further concentrations of power. I hate the crybaby anarchist chuds about as much as anyone can, but they aren't sitting on the SC destroying the voting rights act, or granting the president criminal immunity, or sending ICE to stake out elementary schools, or very obviously building toward using the insurrection act. As much as I enjoy watching the guy throwing fireworks get arrested (and oh boy should he), he's not raiding entire apartment complexes with Blackhawk helicopters and sending old grandmas across the country to sit in "detention" for weeks or months on end. There is one threat to our constitutional order here, and it isn't the stinky white-with-dreadlocks guy screaming at the federal courthouse in Portland, Oregon.My whole issue with antifa is they’re destructive and violent, but a bigger issue is that they are preventing people from exercising their rights without interference or threats/violence. Again, this isn’t happening in the lit-up cop heavy zone, but the areas generally away from the ice building. No one should have trepidation or fear to express their rights because they are going to get followed and harassed, threatened, have their flag or signs stolen, phones broken, or physical attacks. And this last part definitely isn’t just portland. We saw it in LA when people protested the issue at the Wi spa where a trans “woman” with a large penis was changing in the locker room in front of a young girl or something like that. It led to protests on both sides, but only one side routinely attacked the other side. Then you have other antifa strongholds such as Eugene and Seattle and many other cities in different states-but the northwest is the worst of it.
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