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DoctorTaco said:
I checked on all of those accounts and none of them are posting multiple daily antifa attacks for months at a time
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Here’s a few more. This first video interviews a guy that has been coming out for a few months or so to film and he talks about how he has been attacked and in his circle of conservatives that have been down there, he leads the group in the number of times he has been assaulted-including most recently, having urine thrown on him and another time where he was carrying a firearm in his hip and someone tried to grab it. I just went back a week or two. I did not get all the way to the incident of the guy grabbing his gun, but the last video is the piss being thrown on him. Keep in mind, this is one guy’s tweets only going back to like Oct 6 or so. There were a few videos that he retweeted from earlier in the timeline.



















 
nhbbear said:
Here’s a few more. This first video interviews a guy that has been coming out for a few months or so to film and he talks about how he has been attacked and in his circle of conservatives that have been down there, he leads the group in the number of times he has been assaulted-including most recently, having urine thrown on him and another time where he was carrying a firearm in his hip and someone tried to grab it. I just went back a week or two. I did not get all the way to the incident of the guy grabbing his gun, but the last video is the piss being thrown on him. Keep in mind, this is one guy’s tweets only going back to like Oct 6 or so. There were a few videos that he retweeted from earlier in the timeline.



















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See, you're not making the point you think you are. Your algorithm is melting anything resembling critical thought and replacing it with outrage porn. Setting aside that first clip, which is just a guy talking, most of what you're seeing there is less intense than a random Florida sovicit getting manhandled lol. But we aren't making the case the feds need to send in ICE troops to ensure rednecks are driving with a license, now do we? I could post you hundreds of videos of them, right? Take all the hours in a day, line them up in a row, and you have a handful of inflammatory things painting a picture that doesn't reflect reality. Those clips aren't showing rabid terrorists. And woe betide our society if someone gets arrested for stepping over the blue property line. Yeah, straight to gitmo. and btw, that's still a pretty healthy distance away from "hundreds of videos"
 
Limbo Pete said:
See, you're not making the point you think you are. Your algorithm is melting anything resembling critical thought and replacing it with outrage porn. Setting aside that first clip, which is just a guy talking, most of what you're seeing there is less intense than a random Florida sovicit getting manhandled lol. But we aren't making the case the feds need to send in ICE troops to ensure rednecks are driving with a license, now do we? I could post you hundreds of videos of them, right? Take all the hours in a day, line them up in a row, and you have a handful of inflammatory things painting a picture that doesn't reflect reality. Those clips aren't showing rabid terrorists. And woe betide our society if someone gets arrested for stepping over the blue property line. Yeah, straight to gitmo. and btw, that's still a pretty healthy distance away from "hundreds of videos"
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We have to go back to the original thread I made where nick sortor was attacked for being a conservative in that area. I said there were tons of those videos daily and that many others have experienced the same thing. I said that basically anyone could get attacked down there if they were wearing clothes that singled them out as conservative. You challenged me and said it was not true. Whether I can find hundreds of videos or not-I am not going to find out because I am not doing that search daily, but keep in mind that was just a few videos going back a week from one guy’s twitter. We would have four months worth to go through with I don’t know, maybe 2 dozen or so people filming these interactions? I don’t know how many there are, but there’s more than enough to prove that these twats are a. Targeting conservatives over their beliefs b. threatening violence, harrassing, grabbing, striking, spitting, etc and c. that it has been going on for months and there continues to be arrests and incidents where antifa goons are targeting people.

I never ever said we need to send in national guard or military-so stop saying that or implying that.
 
nhbbear said:
We have to go back to the original thread I made where nick sortor was attacked for being a conservative in that area. I said there were tons of those videos daily and that many others have experienced the same thing. I said that basically anyone could get attacked down there if they were wearing clothes that singled them out as conservative. You challenged me and said it was not true. Whether I can find hundreds of videos or not-I am not going to find out because I am not doing that search daily, but keep in mind that was just a few videos going back a week from one guy’s twitter. We would have four months worth to go through with I don’t know, maybe 2 dozen or so people filming these interactions? I don’t know how many there are, but there’s more than enough to prove that these twats are a. Targeting conservatives over their beliefs b. threatening violence, harrassing, grabbing, striking, spitting, etc and c. that it has been going on for months and there continues to be arrests and incidents where antifa goons are targeting people.

I never ever said we need to send in national guard or military-so stop saying that or implying that.
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That narrative itself is the problem. Every day there are groups of counter protesters down there -not just 30 seconds on a twitter clip, but all day- with flags, MAGA gear, whatever. And it's fine. That was why I sent you that 4 hour stream, so you could get a much better contextualized idea of what normal is over there right now. You see someone having a scuffle or getting arrested and that is the point at which the hyperbole and performative rage rhetoric comes into play. And before the Trump administration decided on this current round of escalation, that specific area around the ICE facility was mostly devoid of protesters of any persuasion for long stretches of time.
As for your last point, you can't have it both ways. You have consistently railed against the "antifa goons" being out of control, which is the exact same thing being used by the Trump administration to justify the rampant abuses and authoritarian creep going on. I can't convince you the problem isn't what social media tells you it is, so how about this: either this is a problem that warrants the response, or it is not a problem that warrants the response. Pick one.
 
Stoic1 said:
True or not that shit is funny.

All the NG guys wear those fucking mustaches. And they are fat. It's disgusting.
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Not kidding I go to the gym at 3:30 am and half the guys are former Marines or Army. They take their fitness seriously lifting weights and cardio. They don't understand why national guard is overweight. The guys drive trucks, land surveyor, machine shop operator, electrician on an on. They work full-time jobs an still find time to exercise. I have not shown them this photo but told them about how they are called Meal team six lol
 
nhbbear said:
@DoctorTaco here is some video from a few hours ago. Take note of the user’s names because these are some of the people that are posting 4-5 videos/day. I will post a few videos that were posted today or yesterday for your viewing pleasure.









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You can't use your 1A in a road. Roads are for travelling in vehicles. The sidewalk and easement are okay for the 1A.

I have been blocked by asshole protestors when trying to get my pregnant wife to a doctor appointment. Lame
 
Limbo Pete said:
That narrative itself is the problem. Every day there are groups of counter protesters down there -not just 30 seconds on a twitter clip, but all day- with flags, MAGA gear, whatever. And it's fine. That was why I sent you that 4 hour stream, so you could get a much better contextualized idea of what normal is over there right now. You see someone having a scuffle or getting arrested and that is the point at which the hyperbole and performative rage rhetoric comes into play. And before the Trump administration decided on this current round of escalation, that specific area around the ICE facility was mostly devoid of protesters of any persuasion for long stretches of time.
As for your last point, you can't have it both ways. You have consistently railed against the "antifa goons" being out of control, which is the exact same thing being used by the Trump administration to justify the rampant abuses and authoritarian creep going on. I can't convince you the problem isn't what social media tells you it is, so how about this: either this is a problem that warrants the response, or it is not a problem that warrants the response. Pick one.
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Well, I don’t like the options you put forth and I will stick with my assertion that antifa is a problem that needs a response-but not the military or guard. An fbi led task force with some state troopers in a joint-task force would be ideal. PPB doesn’t seem to wait long for nt to engage and haven’t for years, so they don’t have to participate.

My whole issue with antifa is they’re destructive and violent, but a bigger issue is that they are preventing people from exercising their rights without interference or threats/violence. Again, this isn’t happening in the lit-up cop heavy zone, but the areas generally away from the ice building. No one should have trepidation or fear to express their rights because they are going to get followed and harassed, threatened, have their flag or signs stolen, phones broken, or physical attacks. And this last part definitely isn’t just portland. We saw it in LA when people protested the issue at the Wi spa where a trans “woman” with a large penis was changing in the locker room in front of a young girl or something like that. It led to protests on both sides, but only one side routinely attacked the other side. Then you have other antifa strongholds such as Eugene and Seattle and many other cities in different states-but the northwest is the worst of it.
 
lifelessheap said:
You can't use your 1A in a road. Roads are for travelling in vehicles. The sidewalk and easement are okay for the 1A.

I have been blocked by asshole protestors when trying to get my pregnant wife to a doctor appointment. Lame
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In Portland? Well, roads are for vehicles, but a bunch of naked twats in Portland shut down the bridge. I really really hate when they block the streets and stop and surround cars while beating on the windows and hoods. And I posted a video the other night where a guy was walking on the sidewalk and he got surrounded and told to leave and that it was their (antifa) sidewalk. A girl? goes up to him carrying a club and tells him to leave and he rips the club/stick out of her hand and after he gets shoved, he swings it at the goons and scares them away.
 
Here’s another good one. Conservative protester is surrounded and gets into a fight with one antifa person and another antifa runs up and hits him in the head with a rock knocking him unconscious and then the assailant runs off. While recovering in the hospital, PPB officers show up to arrest him for assault for getting into the fight in the first place. His attacker was never caught.
 
nhbbear said:
Here’s another good one. Conservative protester is surrounded and gets into a fight with one antifa person and another antifa runs up and hits him in the head with a rock knocking him unconscious and then the assailant runs off. While recovering in the hospital, PPB officers show up to arrest him for assault for getting into the fight in the first place. His attacker was never caught.
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All of that from a 14 second clip huh? Maybe, just maybe Andy Ngo isn't the best source for an unbiased version of the events that occurred.
 
He needs to deploy troops in every blue city that refuses to prosecute criminals. This is a long time coming.
 
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