Law Trump says the Epstein list is a conspiracy created by Obama and Clinton

Do you believe Trump is in the Epstein List?

  • Yes, absolutely.

    Votes: 259 57.8%

  • Yes, probably.

    Votes: 125 27.9%

  • No, he's not on the list.

    Votes: 28 6.3%

  • No, there is no list. So of course he's not on it.

    Votes: 18 4.0%

  • I'm on the fence.

    Votes: 18 4.0%
  • Total voters
    448
RemyR said:
Damn, I hate to give Gavin credit but that's pretty damn funny
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His Shawn Ryan interview is terrifying.
Dude is such a polished politician that gives the right answers. Such a phony and typical establishment guy. Such a pro at never answering the questions about his fk ups & diverting with Clinton like charm on the stuff the left sucks at. Or schmoozing over the other side & fence riders with his every man dad routine.

But he fights Trump so well and can win over a ton of voters. Whatever it is that makes people popular and fool people he has it in spades on multiple levels.

Never been a fan of Gavin or some of the things about Cali (theres great & bad there), but its hard not to say hes light years ahead of any MAGA moron or Republicans who bent the knee for predators.
 
Whippy McGee said:
Your claim that Trump fucked kids is pure conjecture, but here you are making it.

That was not the reason he got suicided. His real transgression was getting caught.

He was an intelligence agency operative working for the CIA / Mossad. Do you know who Maxwell's father was?
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holy fuck dude
you went down some rabbit hole or some shit. You'll believe anything that suits your pre-established beliefs at this point.
 
Damien Karras said:
holy fuck dude
you went down some rabbit hole or some shit. You'll believe anything that suits your pre-established beliefs at this point.
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I'm a skeptic until someone proves something. Nothing is proven, it's all pure conjecture at this point. So many people are just making shit up because that's what they want to think.

I've repeatedly left all these options open and dismiss none of them.

(a) Trump is on the list
(b) Trump is protecting someone(s) on the list
(c) Trump got something for withholding the list
(d) The list (information) has been so deeply corrupted by the Democrats that it cannot be trusted
(e) National Security
(f) More that one of the above
(g) There is no list. Trump lied and stoked the conspiracy theory for his own benefit. (Credit: @Neph)


I am not the guy that makes some claim because I want it to be so. That seems to be all the Left Cult can do anymore... and it's pathetic.
 
Damien Karras said:
and yet that's all conjecture based on even less evidence
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Indeed it is... the evidence that pushes me in that direction:

Epstein's mysterious $$$ that allowed him to buy everything
Maxwell's father's position with Israel
The inability to get any Democrat or Republican to release information

But, you're 100% correct, I am just guessing like everyone else at this point and have said so repeatedly. I've also said that Trump shit the bed on this information release that has been absent.
 
44nutman said:
Question did the Dems run on releasing the Epstein files? Remind me of when Biden handed out redacted copies of Epstein documents to left wing social media influencers 2 months into his Presidency and then say 5 months later the Epstein files are a hoax. MAGA is trying to find a spin, but none of them are based in logic. MTG said the GOP two days ago voted against the release because it would give Dems control of the house. The GOP has had 2 days to bring it to vote, to keep control of the floor. Guess what, Trump told them to not bring it up, so another spin not based in logic.
Face the facts, you support a dude running cover for Epstein, no matter how you try to spin it.
So, either the files were a hoax all along and Trump ran on it anyway because he thinks his voters are dumb or Trump is on the files, told his supporters to shut the fuck about it, because he thinks they are dumb and worship him. Either way Trump thinks his base is dumb. Hell he has got them even bragging about a Treasury surplus because of tariffs but fails to tell them that surplus is paid by Americans paying higher for goods. That is a regressive tax.
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Not excusing this about face by Trump's administration at all. And do not believe it was some hoax either. Jeffrey Epstein alone did not sex traffick all those underage girls and he did not just kill himself.

That still doesn't change the fact that no one among the Dems released any info. Not to mention one of the Epstein girls/victims have previously said they met Bill Clinton at some points and named some other people.

Seems pretty obvious powerful people, both Dem and Republicans, are being protected.

panamaican said:
The Dems didn't run on releasing the files. The issue here is pretty basic: Is Trump going to do what he said or is he lying.

Either he lied about his plans to release a non-existent list or he's lying about the existing list so he doesn't have to release it. Either way, his base was told that something was going to happen and now they're being told shifting stories about the truth.
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Pretty sure he's lying about an existing list.

payton said:
Answer: No, MAGAnut who still pretending to be a democrat, they did not because Biden did not use the DOJ as his own personal tool. The way that your cult leader has been using it is a perversion of how it's supposed to be run.
The president is supposed to have no part in it, because it's supposed to be independent.
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I don't pretend to be anything and I say exactly what I am. Feel free to do a keyword search going back years. I've been saying the same exact shit. Voted Obama, supported Bernie, reluctantly Hilary and only voted Kamala due to Medicaid cuts that will inevitably happen with Trump.

You on the other hand are a presumptuous retard and constantly making assumptions because I'm not in lockstep with your beliefs. Can't comprehend that not everyone falls into neat binary belief systems and can think independently.

You must go by they/them pronouns.
 
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44nutman said:
Trumps best friend at one time.
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... and how did their relationship end?

In 2011 Epstein tried to "hire" one of the Mara Lago member's daughters. Trump caught wind and banned him from all Trump properties and cut all ties, never to be seen with him again. If someone has blackmail material on you, you don't get to cut all ties, just ask Bill Gates and Bill Clinton.
 
Whippy McGee said:
The projection of the Left Cult losers is endless... and funny. People wouldn't take joy in the constant L's if they all weren't such a bunch of whining pansies.

Trump needs to be dogged for not releasing the information. Everything else at this point is conjecture.
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It is indeed conjecture, and everyone (yes, even trump) deserves to be assumed innocent until proven guilty.

It is conjecture to say trump is on the list, but it’s not wild.

1. They partied together for years and years.

2. Trumps infamous “he likes them young” quote

3. Trump and his buddies hosted private, invite only parties with underage girls on his yacht under the guise of being “talent scouts” for a modeling agency during the same period he and Epstein were partying together

4. Maxwell was preying on victims at mars a lago
5. He’s on the Epstein flight logs 7 times.

6. There was a civil lawsuit against trump for rapping (hip hop!) with a 13 year old. (The young woman rescinded the lawsuit after threats to her life were made.

7. Trump banned Epstein from mars a lago. Why? Bc he’s a predator? Ok cool, good move. But maybe do more like bust him, turn him in, cooperate with the feds? Seems fishy.

8. Trump doesn’t want to release the list

9. He is sort of but definitely is panicking and spiraling about it.


Im the first to admit there has yet to be definitive proof of any fire, but that is a loooot of smoke.
 
DoctorTaco said:
It is indeed conjecture, and everyone (yes, even trump) deserves to be assumed innocent until proven guilty.

It is conjecture to say trump is on the list, but it’s not wild.

1. They partied together for years and years.

2. Trumps infamous “he likes them young” quote

3. Trump and his buddies hosted private, invite only parties with underage girls on his yacht under the guise of being “talent scouts” for a modeling agency during the same period he and Epstein were partying together

4. Maxwell was preying on victims at mars a lago
5. He’s on the Epstein flight logs 7 times.

6. There was a civil lawsuit against trump for rapping (hip hop!) with a 13 year old. (The young woman rescinded the lawsuit after threats to her life were made.

7. Trump banned Epstein from mars a lago. Why? Bc he’s a predator? Ok cool, good move. But maybe do more like bust him, turn him in, cooperate with the feds? Seems fishy.

8. Trump doesn’t want to release the list

9. He is sort of but definitely is panicking and spiraling about it.


Im the first to admit there has yet to be definitive proof of any fire, but that is a loooot of smoke.
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100% - That is a rational approach and view.
 
While not Trump in this, if you've never watched this prince Andrew interview then you should.




Don't let the island distract you. These monsters did this globally. They're all rich, they all have private jets, and they all have many properties. Pimps do offer outcalls to their clients.
 
Whippy McGee said:
... and how did their relationship end?

In 2011 Epstein tried to "hire" one of the Mara Lago member's daughters. Trump caught wind and banned him from all Trump properties and cut all ties, never to be seen with him again. If someone has blackmail material on you, you don't get to cut all ties, just ask Bill Gates and Bill Clinton.
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It ended because Epstein tried to buy a house that Trump, and him ended up bidding on. Epstein cost Trump millions by trying to buy the same house. Same house Trump later sold to a Russian.
nypost.com

Inside the $41M mansion fight that led to Donald Trump’s fallout with Jeffrey Epstein

Despite a history of moving within the same Palm Beach circles, the Maison de l’Amitie came in between them, ultimately souring their relationship.
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That Mar Lardo story did not come out until Trump started getting heat. Let me guess you believe that one, like you believed Trump was going to release the Epstein Files.
 
Either he is on the list or his friends are on the list or he is being threatened by someone.

Something is going on.

My guess is powerful people from both political parties are on it along with other wealthy non political business people.
 
DoctorTaco said:
It is indeed conjecture, and everyone (yes, even trump) deserves to be assumed innocent until proven guilty.

It is conjecture to say trump is on the list, but it’s not wild.

1. They partied together for years and years.

2. Trumps infamous “he likes them young” quote

3. Trump and his buddies hosted private, invite only parties with underage girls on his yacht under the guise of being “talent scouts” for a modeling agency during the same period he and Epstein were partying together

4. Maxwell was preying on victims at mars a lago
5. He’s on the Epstein flight logs 7 times.

6. There was a civil lawsuit against trump for rapping (hip hop!) with a 13 year old. (The young woman rescinded the lawsuit after threats to her life were made.

7. Trump banned Epstein from mars a lago. Why? Bc he’s a predator? Ok cool, good move. But maybe do more like bust him, turn him in, cooperate with the feds? Seems fishy.

8. Trump doesn’t want to release the list

9. He is sort of but definitely is panicking and spiraling about it.


Im the first to admit there has yet to be definitive proof of any fire, but that is a loooot of smoke.
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I can’t imagine looking at all this and believing trump had no idea what Epstein was up to and wasn’t involved in any way shape or form.

He simply partied with him, found out he tried to recruit a child from his property, cut ties and that was that.
 
Deaths Head said:

Trump, he said, was almost “functionally illiterate” but did read the Page Six gossip column in the New York Post. He was “incapable” of reading a balance sheet, and any “act of kindness” would have been an accident, Epstein said
But it is Epstein’s description of Trump’s conduct toward women which is likely to attract most attention, given the pair’s long friendship, and the 28 women who have made accusations against the former president of sexual misconduct (all of which he denies). Many of the attacks are alleged to have occurred when he and Epstein were friends.

On the tape Epstein can be heard saying, “He’s a horrible human being. He does nasty things to his best friends, best friends’ wives, anyone who he first tries to gain their trust and uses it to do bad things to them.”

On one occasion, Epstein alleged, Trump took a woman to what he called “the Egyptian Room” in an Atlantic City casino. Epstein alleged, “He came out afterward and said, ‘It was great, it was great. The only thing I really like to do is f--- the wives of my best friends. That is just the best.’”

Not being able to read a balance sheet would explain why he doesn’t know how Tarriffs work either . <lmao>
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Imagine Jeffrey Epstein calling you a "horrible person"

imrs.php
 
Hog-train said:
I don't pretend to be anything and I say exactly what I am. Feel free to do a keyword search going back years. I've been saying the same exact shit. Voted Obama, supported Bernie, reluctantly Hilary and only voted Kamala due to Medicaid cuts that will inevitably happen with Trump.

You on the other hand are a presumptuous retard and constantly making assumptions because I'm not in lockstep with your beliefs. Can't comprehend that not everyone falls into neat binary belief systems and can think independently.

You must go by they/them pronouns.
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Already did. You're just another closeted MAGA goober whos obsessed with trans women for some reason.

Just come out like Mr Holmes and I Am Legion did. No one is buying your bs.
 
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