Law Trump says the Epstein list is a conspiracy created by Obama and Clinton

[44nutman]

Question: Didn't the Dems have 4 years to release the info and didn’t do a damn thing?

Question did the Dems run on releasing the Epstein files? Remind me of when Biden handed out redacted copies of Epstein documents to left wing social media influencers 2 months into his Presidency and then say 5 months later the Epstein files are a hoax. MAGA is trying to find a spin, but none of them are based in logic. MTG said the GOP two days ago voted against the release because it would give Dems control of the house. The GOP has had 2 days to bring it to vote, to keep control of the floor. Guess what, Trump told them to not bring it up, so another spin not based in logic.
Face the facts, you support a dude running cover for Epstein, no matter how you try to spin it.
So, either the files were a hoax all along and Trump ran on it anyway because he thinks his voters are dumb or Trump is on the files, told his supporters to shut the fuck about it, because he thinks they are dumb and worship him. Either way Trump thinks his base is dumb. Hell he has got them even bragging about a Treasury surplus because of tariffs but fails to tell them that surplus is paid by Americans paying higher for goods. That is a regressive tax.

 

[payton]

Question: Didn't the Dems have 4 years to release the info and didn’t do a damn thing?

Answer: No, MAGAnut who still pretending to be a democrat, they did not because Biden did not use the DOJ as his own personal tool. The way that your cult leader has been using it is a perversion of how it's supposed to be run.
The president is supposed to have no part in it, because it's supposed to be independent.

 

[Soggust]

Question: Didn't the Dems have 4 years to release the info and didn’t do a damn thing?

Question: How do we hold the Dems accountable for the cover up without releasing the files and who is currently preventing that?

 

[SurferH2O]

Intelligence agencies did not have access to the evidence. The DOJ did. Why would the CIA, Homeland Security or anyone in the IC have access to any of this?

There is no list of clients. There are flight logs with lists of passengers to his private island, and he has a list of contacts he kept in a book like the good old days before cell phones. How could you connect any of that to organization of child sex trafficking and names of clients? You can't. And if the Democrats had that evidence, they would have gone after the culprits. Now that Trump and Bondi have the evidence, they are quick to realize they have nothing. But they fanned the flames, especially Bondi with her statement that they have the documents sitting on her table, to imply the list is in there. So you got MAGA conspiracy nuts all horny waiting for it to be released, but they didn't because it was all one giant lie.

And then Trump called you stupid for believing there was a list in the first place. That's what the President thinks of you.

Who do you think Epstein was? Let's start there.

 

[payton]

The least trump could do is release the Fake List he is saying the Democrats made, because he obviously has access to that list..

Show us the Fake List!!

Or show us the real one.

 

[Blayt7hh]

“When the dust settles this will be worse for members of the democratic party over all. Which party takes this biggest political damage remains to be seen”

So much cope lmao.

He really might be the biggest dumbass on this forum right now

 

[ermac88]

 

[Crazy Source]

Who do you think Epstein was? Let's start there.

I'll answer. He was a guy that fucked kids with Trump and other powerful men.

 

[Deaths Head]

You are doing exactly that by refusing to hold both parties accountable. This has nothing to do with MAGA cope this is about retard leftoids like you thinking this is somehow a win for your sid when it is a indictment across the board. In fact the majority of names on the list are linked to democrats and during time frame this was going on Trump himself had deeper ties to the democrats the he did the republicans.

 

[panamaican]

Question: Didn't the Dems have 4 years to release the info and didn’t do a damn thing?

The Dems didn't run on releasing the files. The issue here is pretty basic: Is Trump going to do what he said or is he lying.

Either he lied about his plans to release a non-existent list or he's lying about the existing list so he doesn't have to release it. Either way, his base was told that something was going to happen and now they're being told shifting stories about the truth.

In the grand scheme of things, Trump's actions aren't going to have consequences because no one can force him to release anything, except Congress and they don't have the balls. It only matters as yet another example of how much he played the fuck out of the MAGA crowd. And this is the first time they're actually acknowledging that he lied to them and they're getting fucked by the same type of politician that they claimed he wasn't.

 

[Aegon Spengler]

I don't think you're seeing that. What do you mean, by dumb take?

People are pissed off at Trump specifically because he directly campaigned on this thing, and whipped everyone into a lather about it. Also, there isn't a public figure who was MORE closely tied to Epstein than was Trump. They really did seem not just like associates but good buddies. Finally, Trump just gaslights everyone about these supposed Epstein files. They don't exist, but they do exist as a hoax started by the Democrats, but its not a hoax because MAxwell is in prison, but it is a hoax because, just shut up and forget about it.

I think it's totally reasonable to have disdain for the democrats and republicans about this - I have disdain for the Democrats and Republicans both that supercedes and preceeds the Epstein affair. Politicians are vampiric sociopaths, generally. In this case, there's a much larger story than the fact that many people of different political stripes seem to have been involved with Epstein. The Trump storyline on this is truly bonkers. It makes sense that people are talking more about the one guy who was Epstein's best buddy, who campagined on releasing the files, who then started just gaslighting everyone that there was no files.

Calling this TDS, or saying that people who call this out have a dumb take is totally missing the whole point.

The democrats have now twice voted to release this list and the Republicans have blocked it both times.

It couldn’t be more clear that the Republicans are protecting this current administration. The Democrats likely know that Clinton would be implicated but have decided that’s fine.

Republicans are protecting the worst, most powerful sexual predators in the world right now. Right now, today, there is no “both siding”. The Dems have put themselves out there, willing to risk whatever blowback comes their way and the Republicans are the ones directly preventing that from happening.

The people doing “both sides” shit are being laughed at because they deserve to be. It’s one side, The Republicans, as of right now, July 2025, and that’s the side that did all the years of accusations and conspiracy peddling. The Democrats main promise in the last election was cheaper housing and not being Trump: that was what Kamala ran on. Trump ran on conspiracy theories and outlandish claims like that he could end the Ukraine war in one day.

 

[SurferH2O]

I'll answer. He was a guy that fucked kids with Trump and other powerful men.

Your claim that Trump fucked kids is pure conjecture, but here you are making it.

That was not the reason he got suicided. His real transgression was getting caught.

He was an intelligence agency operative working for the CIA / Mossad. Do you know who Maxwell's father was?

 

[44nutman]

Or show us the real one.

The guy on the left definitely looks like the type of dude who checks peckers at urinals in the men's bathrooms.
I don't know any of those MAGA social media influencers. They seem like C Level influencers. The question I have is have they already done a 180 on Epstein since Trump told his base to shut the fuck up about it. I know most of the prominent MAGA, A Level social media influencers have cucked to Trump and done a 180 on Epstein but wonder if Pecker Checker has.

 

[Blayt7hh]

Your claim that Trump fucked kids is pure conjecture, but here you are making it.

That was not the reason he got suicided. His real transgression was getting caught.

He was an intelligence agency operative working for the CIA / Mossad. Do you know who Maxwell's father was?

Well no it’s not really pure conjecture at all. The sun is blotted out with smoke so it’s fairly safe to assume that there’s a fire. Turns out you just don’t care nearly as much as you pretended to the last four years

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

Epstein - "I'm giving you this evidence against Trump in case I'm ever arrested or killed... Release It To The Press."

*Epstein is Arrested & Killed.*

'Hmmm ... I better hold onto this.'

You leftists are bigger conspiracy theory wackos than Alex Jones.

As if it's impossible to give evidence to the press without it being traced back.
Think about it. Really hard.

lol yeah known leftist Mr. Holmes

 

[Belaya Smert]

Of course I do. I think him and all his kid diddling friends.
The ones he has been donating to for decades knew it was going on and that is why we can’t divulge the truth.

 

[44nutman]

Who do you think Epstein was? Let's start there.

Trumps best friend at one time.

 

[Crazy Source]

Your claim that Trump fucked kids is pure conjecture, but here you are making it.

That was not the reason he got suicided. His real transgression was getting caught.

He was an intelligence agency operative working for the CIA / Mossad. Do you know who Maxwell's father was?

 

[SurferH2O]

Trumps best friend at one time.

If a Logical Fallacy was a human being, you'd be it.

Sorry, Guilt by Association is a debate loser.

 

[payton]

@Whippy McGee is grasping at straws to defend Trump’s involvement with Epstein. Crazy.