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Elections Trump Indicted On 91 Counts

Hey, I asked a question before.

What is your stance on immunity for ex-presidents?

They all must do some whacked shit to keep this nation somewhat safe. We don't want them thinking if some marginal shit will get them tossed in the Fed Prison dissuading them from doing the job. In Trump's docs case part of it was a CYA. He knew Milley and the Establishment were going to try and claim he wanted War with Iran, when it was the opposite. He kept the docs that exposed it. Now, he kept other shit that he didn't belong having most likely, but they all do.... except Obama*

*People wonder why Obama never had any issues with docs. It was really simple. He gave the National Archives the largest budget and payoff they've ever seen and they spent thousands and thousands of man hours de-classifying tons of documents for his use as they grew their department to levels never before seen. You want to endear a Federal Agency to you? Fund the hell out of them. Barack funded them just before he left to be his workforce. Most people don't know he had fleets and fleets of them approving tons and tons of documents for him to keep like no other. Our fucked press doesn't report about it in context, because that Orange Man must be fully demonized. They'll just say that he had them properly declassified, but not share the budget trick and payoff to the department. Barack has way more documents than anyone. Now, the boss of that was the main guy shitting on Trump (recently retired). He's an Obama Deep Stater if ever anyone was. We should give credit where credit is due to Barack. He played it like a Master and was 3 moves ahead of everyone. I am starting to wonder if Trump's Library, when built, will even have documents. The Biden DOJ/FBI virtually took them all. If Biden learned anything from Obama, he will also give the National Archives a huge budget boost at the end to be his workforce on documents. Trump didn't play the game properly.
 
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They all must do some whacked shit to keep this nation someone safe. We don't want them thinking if some marginal shit will get them tossed in the Fed Prison dissuading them from doing the job. In Trump's docs case part of it was a CYA. He knew Milley and the Establishment were going to try and claim he wanted War with Iran, when it was the opposite. He kept the docs that exposed it. Now, he kept other shit that he didn't belong having most likely, but they all do.... except Obama*

*People wonder why Obama never had any issues with docs. It was really simple. He gave the National Archives the largest budget and payoff they've ever seen and they spent thousands and thousands of man hours de-classifying tons of documents for his use as they grew their department to levels never before seen. You want to endear a Federal Agency to you? Fund the hell out of them. Barack funded them just before he left to be his workforce. Most people don't know he had fleets and fleets of them approving tons and tons of documents for him to keep like no other. Our fucked press doesn't report about it in context, because that Orange Man must be fully demonized. They'll just say that he had them properly declassified, but not share the budget trick and payoff to the department. Barack has way more documents than anyone. Now, the boss of that was the main guy shitting on Trump (recently retired). He's an Obama Deep Stater if ever anyone was. We should give credit where credit is due to Barack. He played it like a Master and was 3 moves ahead of everyone. I am starting to wonder if Trump's Library, when built, will even have documents. The Biden DOJ/FBI virtually took them all. If Biden learned anything from Obama, he will also give the National Archives a huge budget boost at the end to be his workforce on documents. Trump didn't play the game properly.
Oh, Whimpy...If it's true that Trump kept documents to expose something, why then did he never expose anything? Ehh? Hmm? Umm?

“He said that I wanted to attack Iran – isn’t it amazing? I have a big pile of papers. This thing just came up, look. This was him. They presented me this...It is like highly confidential, secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this...See, as president, I could have declassified, but now I can’t, you know. But this is classic...Isn’t that interesting? It’s so cool.”

This is from a recording made in 2021, that the public only learned about in 2023, because it was part of Jack Smith's evidence against Trump.
 
What Jack Smith really wanted was from this paragraph.

"The court denied without comment special counsel Jack Smith’s request asking the justices to circumvent the normal appeals court process and quickly decide the question, which looms large in Trump’s prosecution in Washington over allegations of election interference."

SCOTUS said nope and bitch slapped Jack Smith. Jack Smith just learned that it is the Defendant's prerogative to fast track, not the Prosecution's. You must give the Defense the opportunity and time for a proper Defense if that is what they want, the Prosecution doesn't get to rush them, because they have Authoritarian motives. Smith is an asshole for even trying it.


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They aren't giving him any less time to prepare his defense. It's the same argument no matter what court it's before. It's the same argument he already used in court and it'll be the same argument when it eventually gets appealed to the SCOTUS.
 
They all must do some whacked shit to keep this nation someone safe. We don't want them thinking if some marginal shit will get them tossed in the Fed Prison dissuading them from doing the job. In Trump's docs case part of it was a CYA. He knew Milley and the Establishment were going to try and claim he wanted War with Iran, when it was the opposite. He kept the docs that exposed it. Now, he kept other shit that he didn't belong having most likely, but they all do.... except Obama*

*People wonder why Obama never had any issues with docs. It was really simple. He gave the National Archives the largest budget and payoff they've ever seen and they spent thousands and thousands of man hours de-classifying tons of documents for his use as they grew their department to levels never before seen. You want to endear a Federal Agency to you? Fund the hell out of them. Barack funded them just before he left to be his workforce. Most people don't know he had fleets and fleets of them approving tons and tons of documents for him to keep like no other. Our fucked press doesn't report about it in context, because that Orange Man must be fully demonized. They'll just say that he had them properly declassified, but not share the budget trick and payoff to the department. Barack has way more documents than anyone. Now, the boss of that was the main guy shitting on Trump (recently retired). He's an Obama Deep Stater if ever anyone was. We should give credit where credit is due to Barack. He played it like a Master and was 3 moves ahead of everyone. I am starting to wonder if Trump's Library, when built, will even have documents. The Biden DOJ/FBI virtually took them all. If Biden learned anything from Obama, he will also give the National Archives a huge budget boost at the end to be his workforce on documents. Trump didn't play the game properly.
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Oh, Whimpy...If it's true that Trump kept documents to expose something, why then did he never expose anything? Ehh? Hmm? Umm?

“He said that I wanted to attack Iran – isn’t it amazing? I have a big pile of papers. This thing just came up, look. This was him. They presented me this...It is like highly confidential, secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this...See, as president, I could have declassified, but now I can’t, you know. But this is classic...Isn’t that interesting? It’s so cool.”

This is from a recording made in 2021, that the public only learned about in 2023, because it was part of Jack Smith's evidence against Trump.
ol whippy , reliably fuckwitted as ever..
 
They all must do some whacked shit to keep this nation someone safe. We don't want them thinking if some marginal shit will get them tossed in the Fed Prison dissuading them from doing the job. In Trump's docs case part of it was a CYA. He knew Milley and the Establishment were going to try and claim he wanted War with Iran, when it was the opposite. He kept the docs that exposed it. Now, he kept other shit that he didn't belong having most likely, but they all do.... except Obama*

*People wonder why Obama never had any issues with docs. It was really simple. He gave the National Archives the largest budget and payoff they've ever seen and they spent thousands and thousands of man hours de-classifying tons of documents for his use as they grew their department to levels never before seen. You want to endear a Federal Agency to you? Fund the hell out of them. Barack funded them just before he left to be his workforce. Most people don't know he had fleets and fleets of them approving tons and tons of documents for him to keep like no other. Our fucked press doesn't report about it in context, because that Orange Man must be fully demonized. They'll just say that he had them properly declassified, but not share the budget trick and payoff to the department. Barack has way more documents than anyone. Now, the boss of that was the main guy shitting on Trump (recently retired). He's an Obama Deep Stater if ever anyone was. We should give credit where credit is due to Barack. He played it like a Master and was 3 moves ahead of everyone. I am starting to wonder if Trump's Library, when built, will even have documents. The Biden DOJ/FBI virtually took them all. If Biden learned anything from Obama, he will also give the National Archives a huge budget boost at the end to be his workforce on documents. Trump didn't play the game properly.
k

What is your stance on immunity for ex-presidents?

FYI this is in regards to the DC case Jack Smith is prosecuting. It is specifically in regards to efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

Documents aren't the issue here.
 
Instead of getting excited about Scotus not fast tracking the Immunity issue, I'll tell you what y'all should be watching closely, @cottagecheesefan @Whippy McGee @Super_Nintendo and that is the Supreme Court's decision on the appeal from Joseph Fischer on the obstructing an official proceeding charge. They have agreed to hear the appeal, and it is the charge that many of the Jan 6 folks have been convicted with, and makes up 2 of the charges against Trump in the DC criminal trial. Unfortunately, it's not fast tracked, and could take up to the end of June! (I don't get how it's NOT fast tracked...you've got hundreds of people in jail on the same charge, where if they decide one way get out sharpish... how do you just sleep on that??? In a lot of ways, I don't get the law)

That would be a huge win for Trump IMO.

I personally think Scotus will strike this conviction down, and insanity will ensue as a result...lots of insurrectionists getting a get out of jail free card.

The least of the consequences will be the removal of two charges being dismissed against tiny-D.

Scotus deciding to not hear arguments on Immunity atm doesn't really mean much, since oral arguments are set in the DC court of appeals on Jan 9th, and then Scotus will get the ball shortly thereafter. Delayed, but not denied.
 
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Instead of getting excited about Scotus not fast tracking the Immunity issue, I'll tell you what y'all should be watching closely, @cottagecheesefan @Whippy McGee @Super_Nintendo and that is the Supreme Court's decision on the appeal from Joseph Fischer on the obstructing an official proceeding charge. They have agreed to hear the appeal, and it is the charge that many of the Jan 6 folks have been convicted with, and makes up 2 of the charges against Trump in the DC criminal trial. Unfortunately, it's not fast tracked, and could take up to the end of June! That would be a huge win for Trump IMO.

I personally think Scotus will strike this conviction down, and insanity will ensue as a result...lots of insurrectionists getting a get out of jail free card.

The least of the consequences will be the removal of two charges being dismissed against tiny-D.

Scotus deciding to not hear arguments on Immunity atm doesn't really mean much, since oral arguments are set in the DC court of appeals on Jan 9th, and then Scotus will get the ball shortly thereafter.

Thanks. That's all legit. This Lawfare is tiring to track and I think that's part of the appeal for those conducting it. There may be some valid suits out there regarding Trump, but damn, there are some seriously abusive and stupid charges like the idiots in New York. I did not add that last part to take away from your post. What you shared was solid.
 
k

What is your stance on immunity for ex-presidents?

FYI this is in regards to the DC case Jack Smith is prosecuting. It is specifically in regards to efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

Documents aren't the issue here.
Yep, even if Scotus affirms "Absolute Immunity" this is very clearly outside of that, since ex-Presidents do not enjoy that privilege.

Massive jail time @ stake in the FL case... unfortunately Judge Eileen to the right Cannon doesn't seem to want to do her job and officiate the case.
 
Thanks. That's all legit. This Lawfare is tiring to track and I think that's part of the appeal for those conducting it. There may be some valid suits out there regarding Trump, but damn, there are some seriously abusive and stupid charges like the idiots in New York. I did not add that last part to take away from your post. What you shared was solid.

hey man how much are you charging for these dancing lessons?
 
Thanks. That's all legit. This Lawfare is tiring to track and I think that's part of the appeal for those conducting it. There may be some valid suits out there regarding Trump, but damn, there are some seriously abusive and stupid charges like the idiots in New York. I did not add that last part to take away from your post. What you shared was solid.
Are you not embarrassed at yourself, at all, when you start using these terms only after hearing them from your favorite cult leader?

You know that you never once in your life used the word "lawfare" until your cult daddy said it

You know that you never once used the term "deep state" until your cult daddy said it

It's like being in middle school and seeing a cool backpack on another kid so you immediately run out and make your mom buy you one

It's just deeply, deeply embarrassing behavior from a grown man.

Are you capable of the tiniest bit of self-reflection and self-awareness on this?
 
Thanks. That's all legit. This Lawfare is tiring to track and I think that's part of the appeal for those conducting it. There may be some valid suits out there regarding Trump, but damn, there are some seriously abusive and stupid charges like the idiots in New York. I did not add that last part to take away from your post. What you shared was solid.
It's very telling you simply WILL NOT give an honest answer to my simple question.

k

What is your stance on immunity for ex-presidents?

FYI this is in regards to the DC case Jack Smith is prosecuting. It is specifically in regards to efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

Documents aren't the issue here.
 
Can’t take US politics and elected officials seriously any more.

Denying a blow job from an intern is “obstruction of justice” and worthy of impeachment.

Trump faces 91 charges. Among them, getting caught with classified documents (which our sitting president has also done) and paying hush money to a porn star.

Meanwhile, George W Bush, the man who brought death to a million people, who displaced millions more, is enjoying his retirement and has never been charged with anything.
 
There's a pretty long list of guys who "hate Trump" or "aren't conservative" but support one hundred percent of idiotic conservative talking points.
See the thing is if we are going by the actual definition of a conservative.. Donald Trump doesn't fit that definition.

Conservatives want little government and try to ensure democracy and the Constitution prevail. Our founding fathers wanted to free themselves of tyranny.

Giving someone the kind of power Donald Trump wants goes against what the founding fathers wanted.
 
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