Trump’s hands-on handling
The indictment indicates that Trump was intimately involved in the handling of boxes brought from the White House to Mar-a-Lago, requesting some of them and sorting through the items after the National Archives pressured Trump aides to send the files back to Washington. In January 2022, Nauta suggested in a text message that Trump was upset that the boxes were labeled with too many details about their contents.
“Can we get new box covers? … I marked too much,” Nauta wrote to a colleague.
The message was sent just days before 15 boxes were dispatched from Mar-a-Lago to the National Archives. The FBI later concluded that the boxes contained 197 documents with classification markings.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/09/trump-indictment-takeaways-00101376
Lol, these guys are all fucked.
I wouldn't worry so much about bugs as about the documents being stored in a bathroom and what looks like a stage maybe in a ballroom or something. I hope the tapes aren't all lost and we can determine if any random people walked into those areas.Yeah reckon you are correct, we've got a crystal- pendalogued sconce. I wonder which foreign national gifted him that. When you think about it, the odds must be overwhelming that mar-a-lago is bugged ah?
Yeah what am I thinking, you don't need a spy camera when you can just read nuclear secrets while taking a shit like it's the TV Guide.I wouldn't worry so much about bugs as about the documents being stored in a bathroom and what looks like a stage maybe in a ballroom or something. I hope the tapes aren't all lost and we can determine if any random people walked into those areas.
Lots of garbage in this thread, but appreciate your opinions, so just jumping in, completely unrelated to this post.
To me it is a total joke and they have nothing. First, no where in the indictemnt do they even mention the presidential records act. They are completely ignoring it because it debunks all their arguments.
Also, some people, including some like the Ben Shapiros are trying to make it be "omg he is unqualified for office!". But the 2 main "gotchas" are also jokes. In the spoiler are the two big "highlights" of the indictment that kind of justify how supposedly "damning" the indictment is
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But if you look, he never says it is still a classified document. He says he had the power to declassify at one point, he doesnt now. Calling it a secret does not mean it is still classified. Both are about supposedly the same document, a potential attack on Iran.
So a battle plan was drawn up for Trump, during his presidency. When he leaves office, why does it matter if he declassified it and is showing someone, especially a high level military officer. It still is a secret battle plan drawn up for him.
Without seeing the document, and seeing potentially sensitive stuff that is still relevant with a new admin and foreign policy, how is it espionage?
How the documents are handled? Photos of literally dozens and dozens of boxes, yet they only cite a few dozen in the indictment, so what does showing these other boxes matter? Even the picture they are showing that is so damning from the evidence is mostly news paper clippings lol
the only groundbreaking thing about cheesebrain's posts is him digging himself deeper into the hole..I hear a couple of Trump attorneys resigned, maybe cottage cheese should give Trump a call with his groundbreaking information that is sure to lead to an acquittal
also there was a 2020 nuclear doc in there.
Guess that ended up being true
Because we're dealing with coded language and power entitlement. The chuds of the land don't have an issue with the FBI being "weaponized", it's that they feel entitled for that weaponization to be used against he people they feel born to lord it over.What really blows my mind is the people crying weaponization of the FBI.
How is it possible these are the same people who refuse to admit law enforcement was and continues to be weaponized against the black community?
I did not read it.bro I don’t care
I literally don’t care if Clinton or Biden go to prison. Clinton certainly in my view was corrupt. But that doesn’t change that she didn’t leave the goods behind and Trump did
Did you read the indictment? He’s a fuckin moron.
I did not read it.bro I don’t care
I literally don’t care if Clinton or Biden go to prison. Clinton certainly in my view was corrupt. But that doesn’t change that she didn’t leave the goods behind and Trump did
Did you read the indictment? He’s a fuckin moron.
That is why she is the goat.Except that there's never been evidence of her committing any crimes. Trump's stuff isn't as serious (eating kids, wearing people's faces as a mask, having people killed, etc.), but it's actually real.
Well written article and you bring up a great point. If all political candidates get a get out of jail card, it will increase criminal activity even more. Definitely problematic.This is a fallacy. The implication here is that BECAUSE someone is opposing an incumbent then they cannot or should not be indicted why...becaus it looks bad? That would literally free up every wealthy narcissistic sociopath to merely run for office to avoid being held accountable for selling out the Country to further enrich themselves. This mentality enables corruption, it doesnt make things seem more fair. The other implication is that it can ONLY be fair if both candidates are prosecuted, but based on what?
Debunking of this line of bullsh*t is in the reputation of those on charge. Jack Smith has taken down National Leaders as part of International criminal court proceedings, and has gone after both Democrats and Republicans domestically. He has declined to indict Republicans when there was no evidence of criminal activity. The NY DA took down Cuomo, who was a NYDP darling. Accusing these people of partisanship in legal proceedings is just downright nonsense.
There are people out there who claim to be harbingers of truth, who build followings on ideological nonsense mixed with grievance politics of their base. Much of the time these people are corrupt charlatans who are fleecing their followers and doing plenty of illegal sh*t behind the curtain. When they are found out and busted they IMMEDIATELY claim persecution, the claim conspiracy against them, they claim their PROsecution is demonstration of their own contentions against the very thing they want control over. These people are called cult leaders. Joseph Smith of the Mormon Church was executed because of this kind of behavior, he and his followers went into towns, eventually overran local Government, opposed the actual Governor, meanwhile he was doing terrible sh*t to people and breaking laws. He also claimed that his arrest was persecution for trying to spread the TRUE word of God.
Now there's weirdos in here putting Trump and God in the same breath, exhibiting the same persecution fetish, willing to excuse literally any action this man does whether legal or not, and suggesting he has magical powers to rearrange how this entire Country works. This is the behavior of cultists.
Also this:I did not read it.
Kind of already assumed Trump did something shady.
I did not read it.
I might agree with your point
That is why she is the goat.
Well written article and you bring up a great point. If all political candidates get a get out of jail card, it will increase criminal activity even more. Definitely problematic.
Counterpoint is that it seems like people like Hillary and Biden get winked at.
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Except that there's never been evidence of her committing any crimes. Trump's stuff isn't as serious (eating kids, wearing people's faces as a mask, having people killed, etc.), but it's actually real.
I did not read it.
Kind of already assumed Trump did something shady.
I did not read it.
I might agree with your point
That is why she is the goat.
Well written article and you bring up a great point. If all political candidates get a get out of jail card, it will increase criminal activity even more. Definitely problematic.
Counterpoint is that it seems like people like Hillary and Biden get winked at.
Also this:
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Apparently the case has been assigned to Aileen M. Cannon. Same Trump appointed judge who has previously displayed a clear bias for him and made a joke of herself with earlier rulings. Pretty outrageous.
Interesting how you put two outlandish statements that no real people believe outside of the depths of Q and then add a real concern behind it.
A lot of people with evidence around Hillary have suicided themselves.
I might not even be able to respond to this thread. Even though I love life, I might be suicided tonight.