Elections Trump Indicted On 91 Counts

sickc0d3r said:
nah, I don’t care about Joe. If he’s charged with crimes, I will not vote for him. I don’t worship a politician or party. Are you going to vote for Trump?
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I hope not. If it came down to him or creepy Joe I would hate to but that's not much of a choice.
 
oldshadow said:
Ok grammar nazi. But with your abilities you were able to understand it.

Gee wiz you're a real "edgeamcated" fellow.
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not for nothing.

correct grammar is the first indication that one is a professional, is all.

granted, I never capitalize, something that can @Space used to always bitch about. I never do because these aren't professional exchanges.

other than that, for me, correct grammar means you've at least received basic education. at the same time, we all make mistakes. I've been typing like shit all week.
 
Whippy McGee said:
It happened right when the Biden document was forced to be shared and it revealed he got $5B from Ukraine as did Hunter for $10B total.

Just like when Bragg came out as it was revealed team Biden took millions from China through a dozen or more shell companies and it revealed 4 Bidens got paid along with a 5th UNNAMED Biden (Joe). How all this shit is kept classified away from the public is bullshit. These are neither National Security issues or private matters. The Biden family has zero expertise in all these areas they are making millions and millions, there is no logical reason for them to get paid at all, except that they are selling influence and favors.

Every time Biden is exposed, they release a Trump attack and the MSM ignores Biden's felonies and goes into full hysterics about the Orange Ogre who is being persecuting for either bogus stuff like Bragg's B.S., or something the Democrats have done far far worse and got a walk. We don't have a Justice System anymore, we have a political arm of the Democratic Party using government powers and media to attack their political opponents.
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Just for the sake of conversation, let's say Hunter Biden was taking money in exchange for providing services of limited value because they're way outside of his skillset. That's the surface of the investigation. The next step is to identify an actionable crime that came from it. The reason no one ever prosecuted Jared K. for his Saudi relationship is that even if he was influenced, he never committed a crime. With Hunter, people have to identify the crime. What was paid for with the money and how was it illegal. Not just questionable or shady but outright illegal.

The issue with equating this with DJT is that DJT is involved in actual crimes, not just shady actions. Campaign finance violations, corporate reporting violations, mishandling of classified documents. These are crimes, not just improprieties.

It's like equating a guy you have on tape robbing a bank with a guy who is taking the bank manager out to dinner so he can get a better loan. The second one might be unethical but only the first one is definitely criminal. Trump's actions are criminal. The Hunter stuff, so far, is possibly unethical and the ethical violations haven't even been proven, let alone the crime that would lead to arrests, indictments, etc. Equating the 2, unethical vs. illegal, is foolish.
 
weed said:
not for nothing.

correct grammar is the first indication that one is a professional, is all.

granted, I never capitalize, something that can @Space used to always bitch about. I never do because these aren't professional exchanges.

other than that, for me, correct grammar means you've at least received basic education. at the same time, we all make mistakes. I've been typing like shit all week.
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I agreeI. I get lazy and don't proof read. Especially since I type on my phone all the time.
 
panamaican said:
Just for the sake of conversation, let's say Hunter Biden was taking money in exchange for providing services of limited value because they're way outside of his skillset. That's the surface of the investigation. The next step is to identify an actionable crime that came from it. The reason no one ever prosecuted Jared K. for his Saudi relationship is that even if he was influenced, he never committed a crime. With Hunter, people have to identify the crime. What was paid for with the money and how was it illegal. Not just questionable or shady but outright illegal.

The issue with equating this with DJT is that DJT is involved in actual crimes, not just shady actions. Campaign finance violations, corporate reporting violations, mishandling of classified documents. These are crimes, not just improprieties.

It's like equating a guy you have on tape robbing a bank with a guy who is taking the bank manager out to dinner so he can get a better loan. The second one might be unethical but only the first one is definitely criminal. Trump's actions are criminal. The Hunter stuff, so far, is possibly unethical and the ethical violations haven't even been proven, let alone the crime that would lead to arrests, indictments, etc. Equating the 2, unethical vs. illegal, is foolish.
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And even if all of the allegations against hunter were true, that wouldn't absolve Trump from his crimes. It's a stupid whataboutism.
 
AWilder said:
And even if all of the allegations against hunter were true, that wouldn't absolve Trump from his crimes. It's a stupid whataboutism.
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I was approaching it from exploring if there is even something to whataboutism about. Their whole gripe is the whataboutism. But even the whataboutism doesn't actually exist. The proper whataboutism is Kushner and Hunter, not Trump and Hunter.

It's kind of pointless to explain it because we're on the sane side of this conversation, lol. They're not doing any whataboutisms, it's just kneejerk deflection to anything that they think will distract.
 
oldshadow said:
I agreeI. I get lazy and don't proof read. Especially since I type on my phone all the time.
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you're telling me, I have wide thumbs. typing on the phone is a Goddamn chore.

that's literally why I never sherdog on my phone or a touch screen.
 
panamaican said:
Just for the sake of conversation, let's say Hunter Biden was taking money in exchange for providing services of limited value because they're way outside of his skillset. That's the surface of the investigation. The next step is to identify an actionable crime that came from it. The reason no one ever prosecuted Jared K. for his Saudi relationship is that even if he was influenced, he never committed a crime. With Hunter, people have to identify the crime. What was paid for with the money and how was it illegal. Not just questionable or shady but outright illegal.

The issue with equating this with DJT is that DJT is involved in actual crimes, not just shady actions. Campaign finance violations, corporate reporting violations, mishandling of classified documents. These are crimes, not just improprieties.

It's like equating a guy you have on tape robbing a bank with a guy who is taking the bank manager out to dinner so he can get a better loan. The second one might be unethical but only the first one is definitely criminal. Trump's actions are criminal. The Hunter stuff, so far, is possibly unethical and the ethical violations haven't even been proven, let alone the crime that would lead to arrests, indictments, etc. Equating the 2, unethical vs. illegal, is foolish.
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Campaign finance? Do you have any clue what Hillary Clinton did with Chinese money and how they bundled it all?

You keep running to what did DJT do... like an obedient little NPC Democratic Party drone. The rest of us want ALL criminals, REGARDLESS OF PARTY to face justice, but we all know that's not what happens, because we have people like you that won't hold the Democratic Party to the same standards. You're not a serious person on the matter. You're just a Left Cult drone and you're intellectually dishonest.

I want them all behind bars, not just the Orange Ogre. That's the difference.
 
DavidsGhost said:
how is any of this different Than Trump and his families tied to Saudi money? It’s typical politician rich people stuff. It’s happened for history.
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Imprison them all. I don't give a shit. I just want to see the Democrats receive equal treatment and we all know that does not happen. You're actually supporting a dual Justice System and that makes you a Leftist Drone that cares not for the rule of law.
 
sickc0d3r said:
Right, so, you’re just pretending to care about national security and stuff. Like I said, full of shit. But, hey, if it’s working for you, keep it up.
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Well how could I vote for Trump if he was convicted of a crime .

You going to vote for creepy Joe if he runs?
 
Whippy McGee said:
Campaign finance? Do you have any clue what Hillary Clinton did with Chinese money and how they bundled it all?

You keep running to what did DJT do... like an obedient little NPC Democratic Party drone. The rest of us want ALL criminals, REGARDLESS OF PARTY to face justice, but we all know that's not what happens, because we have people like you that won't hold the Democratic Party to the same standards. You're not a serious person on the matter. You're just a Left Cult drone and you're intellectually dishonest.

I want them all behind bars, not just the Orange Ogre. That's the difference.
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Hillary? I thought you were griping about Hunter. Which is a pretty solid acquiescence to the point I was making.

As for the Hillary thing, you have the exact same situation -- identifiably criminal behavior vs. identifiably unethical behavior.
 
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