Crime trump executive order cartels terrorists.

[terrapin]

id like to explore trumps decision to declare cartels terrorist groups. I've heard a lot of negative from the left about this... mainly centered around comparing this to the war on drugs which has been an absolute disaster. however I don't see the validity of that comparison. a war on drugs means stings and tons of man hours wasted to catch low level criminals, process them and eventually just release them back into the world or see them replaced the next day by other criminals.

declaring cartels as terrorists gives the United States the right to KILL these despicable actors dead.... no need to waste man hours processing them or housing them in jails. this gives the states real power to stop cartels in their tracks and end their reign. and its not as if members of cartels don't have it coming.

cartels are responsible for an immense amount of pain and suffering heaped upon humanity including trafficking children and women and bringing bad actors into the states who are then beholden to the cartels but living in the states.

the United states has been involved in a lot of wars in my lifetime and MOST of them have been total bullshit where we had no real moral authority or clear reason for being there. but waging war on the cartels seems like a moral good and a moral victory and a true use of our military that is not despicably mingled with ulterior motives and agendas.... I cant see why the left is so against this one.

id like to hear everyone's thoughts for and against this particular move by trump.

 

[TheMaster]

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

Well the word „terrorist“ doesn t mean much anymore anyways. Any resistance to Isreal called terorrism for example. But overall i am in favour of this. Fuck cartels.

 

[Fanu]

declaring cartels as terrorists gives the United States the right to KILL these despicable actors dead.... no need to waste man hours processing them or housing them in jails.

lol, US government gave itself the right to kill anyone in the world, long time ago
calling cartles terrorists will change fuck all.. if anything this will just escalate the violence since now we have cartels, mexican government and US government in the action..
people all over the world will still use drugs on a daily basis, and cartels are going to keep providing drugs

 

[Rygu]

Based Donald.

 

[AbominableJoman]

Logical….

 

[Icanseeu]

Hey sherbros I'm looking for advice. I have an opportunity to go to Mexico to learn Spanish in a full immersion course later in the year but with Trump targeting them I'm not sure that is the brightest of ideas do you think I should go. The town the course is in is a town with a bunch of American and Canadian retires so it's pretty safe. My thinking is to wait until about August to decide see how things are playing out before I make up my mind. I don't wanna be there if they start targeting US citizens. What do you guys think.

 

[William Huggins]

Drone strikes on Cartel leaders.....

Cocaine price going up and more cutting with nasty ingredients.......

Possible reprisal from Cartels because one of them idiots might try it.....

Ultimately I think it's a bad idea and decriminalisation is probably the only way forward and treat it like a health issue.......

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Does this mean they're going to be carrying out attacks within Mexico?

 

[KnightTemplar]

A lot of DEVGRU, Delta and CIA Special Activities Division shooters get to go Full Punisher. A lot of Cartel shit-bags get their heads turned into canoes.

Will it drastically effect the amount of illegal drugs coming into America? Almost certainly not. But I'm still not seeing a downside.

 

[Rawex]

A lot of DEVGRU, Delta and CIA Special Activities Division shooters get to go Full Punisher. A lot of Cartel shit-bags get their heads turned into canoes.

Will it drastically effect the amount of illegal drugs coming into America? Almost certainly not. But I'm still not seeing a downside.

 

[William Huggins]

Does this mean they're going to be carrying out attacks within Mexico?

Why not, US does everywhere else ......ask the other presidents......

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Why not, US does everywhere else ......ask the other presidents......

Yeah, I guess this one feels a bit closer to home.

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

Well the word „terrorist“ doesn t mean much anymore anyways. Any resistance to Isreal called terorrism for example. But overall i am in favour of this. Fuck cartels.

A lot of DEVGRU, Delta and CIA Special Activities Division shooters get to go Full Punisher. A lot of Cartel shit-bags get their heads turned into canoes.

Will it drastically effect the amount of illegal drugs coming into America? Almost certainly not. But I'm still not seeing a downside.

i wp

Does this mean they're going to be carrying out attacks within Mexico?

i think this is the most important question at this juncture. TBH it is well known that mexican authorities have lost control on the overall situation and/or have been infiltrated.

US strikes in Mexico targeted on cartel locations are in order as most of this shit is intended for the US drugs market.

 

[Red Dragoniop]

glad i voted for Trump id do it again

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Well the word „terrorist“ doesn t mean much anymore anyways. Any resistance to Isreal called terorrism for example. But overall i am in favour of this. Fuck cartels.

i wp

i think this is the most important question at this juncture. TBH it is well known that mexican authorities have lost control on the overall situation and/or have been infiltrated.

US strikes in Mexico targeted on cartel locations are in order as most of this shit is intended for the US drugs market.

Yeah, I hope they can do it without significant collateral damage though and I'm not too sure they can. I think the PR for killing ten innocent Mexicans will be much worse PR than they get for killing some innocent Iraqis.

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

Yeah, I hope they can do it without significant collateral damage though and I'm not too sure they can. I think the PR for killing ten innocent Mexicans will be much worse PR than they get for killing some innocent Iraqis.

For sure. Except that nothing in Iraq was ever a direct threat to the US but it never seemed to bother americans. In this case it‘s different.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

For sure. Except that nothing in Iraq was ever a direct threat to the US but it never seemed to bother americans. In this case it‘s different.

I think you also have to consider that there isn't a huge demographic of Americans of Iraqi heritage.

I don't think going after the cartels is a bad idea per se, I just think they need to be very careful how they go about it and make sure everything is done in conjunction with the Mexican gov.

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

I think you also have to consider that there isn't a huge demographic of Americans of Iraqi heritage.

I don't think going after the cartels is a bad idea per se, I just think they need to be very careful how they go about it and make sure everything is done in conjunction with the Mexican gov.

100% agree. But something tells me that some shit is going to get blown up and it won‘t be pretty. I sense some bloodlust. It‘s been a while since americans have committed war crimes if i am not mistaken.

 

[Confucamus]

lol, US government gave itself the right to kill anyone in the world, long time ago
calling cartles terrorists will change fuck all.. if anything this will just escalate the violence since now we have cartels, mexican government and US government in the action..
people all over the world will still use drugs on a daily basis, and cartels are going to keep providing drugs

A lot of innocent Americans have been murdered by cartels doing business on our side of the border. Would you allow that to continue?