Law Trump appointed judge blocks OT pay for millions of workers

[Patof]

Allies of the working class as always.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

It's amazing how tolerated wage theft is in this country as opposed to people who steal from a supermarket. I think BOTH should be punished fully.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

I'm salaried and I get overtime if I want it (I can never be bothered to do it though).

Don't you guys get at least time and a half?

I get lieu hours. Every hour over 45 / week I get to take as a personal time later. But that's a company policy

 

[IDGETKTFO]

This is the first I'm hearing that there are salaried positions that get overtime pay. That must be nice.

My wife turned down an assistant manager salary position because it only payed $2/hr more and they basicly make you work 60 hours a week with no OT pay. She would basicly be doing more work, more time, for less. I don't know what kind of job this pertains to, but in the grocery store line of work, there is no OT for salaried mangement positions, and i assure you, she was not going to make more then $43,888 a year.

 

[avenue94]

My wife turned down an assistant manager salary position because it only payed $2/hr more and they basicly make you work 60 hours a week with no OT pay. She would basicly be doing more work, more time, for less. I don't know what kind of job this pertains to, but in the grocery store line of work, there is no OT for salaried mangement positions, and i assure you, she was not going to make more then $43,888 a year.

Cops and nurses are another common example where you'll see nurses putearn residents and docs just starting out career wise.

 

[curryjunkie]

Party of the working class in action.

Add in banning taking breaks from extreme heat for some Xtra freedom

thats strange, i thought maga was looking out for the little guy, must have been misinformed..

 

[Bob Sagat]

Labor Department exceeded its authority
Bidens admin has a history of doing that like OSHA


But orange man bad..

pretty much this
promise money haphazardly -> checks and balances -> omg lawmakers bad
biden already did this with student loans multiple times

 

[Flower2dPeople]

Sometimes people do overtime for their normal hourly rate.

Mine was 1.25 in my previous job.

OT while salaried can be used as time off in lieu, Ive worked this scenario before.

This is the arrangement in my new job.

 

[filthybliss]

The GOP's entire schtick is this. Are we shocked?

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[GhostZ06]

Texas is becoming basically a Retarded peoples bastion.

Anything that starts with "trump allies" is a sign of absolute horse shit

 

[Misfit23]

People who work salary and over time are schmucks. Find a better job. I do my 40 hour and am out.

 

[jk7707]

Well, at least the 14 year old kids working in meat packing plants in red states are still eligible for OT. #youthworkerfreedom

 

[nostradumbass]

I didn't even know there were salaried employees that still punch a clock. You don't get your pay docked for working under 40 hours when you're salaried, so if salaried employees get time and a half for going over 40, and no penalty for going under, why wouldn't you just run up your hours in the same week each pay period and slack the other week to work the same hours?

Just switch to hourly and you'll get your OT pay.

 

[deviake]

I didn't even know there were salaried employees that still punch a clock. You don't get your pay docked for working under 40 hours when you're salaried, so if salaried employees get time and a half for going over 40, and no penalty for going under, why wouldn't you just run up your hours in the same week each pay period and slack the other week to work the same hours?

Just switch to hourly and you'll get your OT pay.

The lower paid salary people are more likely to get hosed from my understanding, hence the rules. At my job salaried employees make solid money (much more than listed here) but we make more hour for hour if we work OT. A buddy of mine is salaried but makes significantly more than the new cap here, I don't remember how it works for him.

 

[deviake]

double

 

[nostradumbass]

The lower paid salary people are more likely to get hosed from my understanding, hence the rules. At my job salaried employees make solid money (much more than listed here) but we make more hour for hour if we work OT. A buddy of mine is salaried but makes significantly more than the new cap here, I don't remember how it works for him.

I don't really have an opinion on it as a concept without having to look a bunch of stuff up. My initial inclination is that a pretty significant portion of lower salaried employees would be more like a retainer for jobs that also get commissions or tips, otherwise that amount is well in range of just being paid hourly. It's kind of a different story if your salary is your income and your boss is just keeping you there longer and tacking on a bunch of extra duties to avoid paying for it vs you staying later a couple days for something you're already getting a commission on as well.

The ruling itself was that the department exceedeed its authority, so wasn't actually even based on OT or who should get it as a concept.

 

[deviake]

I don't really have an opinion on it as a concept without having to look a bunch of stuff up. My initial inclination is that a pretty significant portion of lower salaried employees would be more like a retainer for jobs that also get commissions or tips, otherwise that amount is well in range of just being paid hourly. It's kind of a different story if your salary is your income and your boss is just keeping you there longer and tacking on a bunch of extra duties to avoid paying for it vs you staying later a couple days for something you're already getting a commission on as well.

The ruling itself was that the department exceedeed its authority, so wasn't actually even based on OT or who should get it as a concept.

I'd have to look more up but I think it's for what you mentioned, overworking low paid salaried employees. I remember reading an article many moons ago about how even some higher paid salaried people get worked so much that their actual hourly rate was like $10 an hour or something.

The ruling I don't buy because that's exactly what I'd say if I wanted to strike it down without a great reason, though I admit that is conjecture on my part.

 

[nostradumbass]

I'd have to look more up but I think it's for what you mentioned, overworking low paid salaried employees. I remember reading an article many moons ago about how even some higher paid salaried people get worked so much that their actual hourly rate was like $10 an hour or something.

The ruling I don't buy because that's exactly what I'd say if I wanted to strike it down without a great reason, though I admit that is conjecture on my part.

Yeah, I know that's the purpose or at least the sales pitch for it, but it would take a little while to look up the harm vs benefit based on a bunch of different things. The initial on just the google search shows it's actually more than I even thought, and is actually a majority in "sales industries" who just get a base salary but make the majority of their money on commissions.

The first example I know of personally that doesn't even fit into this numerically but does conceptually is my friend's company that has engineers on salary who also get commission on project completion. The engineers make more money than he does after paying for salaries, fabrication, changes, installations, equipment rentals etc, so increasing payroll would likely mean the project is a loss, so why even do it?

I'm not a big fan of blanket policies generally, but the obvious adjustment here from employers if it went through is to shrink or get rid of commission, move them to hourly or make them independent contractors and save the money in benefits, so they end up making less, or the company just goes out of business, and apparently that would be the majority of sales based positions. Would maybe be different if the yearly average to over 40 hrs, but it doesn't look like that's that case for most of them, and that would just be asking for a raise anyway.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

My wife turned down an assistant manager salary position because it only payed $2/hr more and they basicly make you work 60 hours a week with no OT pay. She would basicly be doing more work, more time, for less. I don't know what kind of job this pertains to, but in the grocery store line of work, there is no OT for salaried mangement positions, and i assure you, she was not going to make more then $43,888 a year.

Wait so once you've worked your contracted hours you can't just go home?

 

[jefferz]

I didn't even know there were salaried employees that still punch a clock. You don't get your pay docked for working under 40 hours when you're salaried, so if salaried employees get time and a half for going over 40, and no penalty for going under, why wouldn't you just run up your hours in the same week each pay period and slack the other week to work the same hours?

Just switch to hourly and you'll get your OT pay.

There are a lot of thing you don't know.